Dust clumping |
Dust clumping |
Mar 28 2007, 04:28 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1887 Joined: 20-November 04 From: Iowa Member No.: 110 |
I've been noticing that the images of Spirit's sundial have been appearing mottled lately.
http://qt.exploratorium.edu/mars/spirit/pa...4JP2122L7M1.JPG http://qt.exploratorium.edu/mars/spirit/pa...4JP2122R1M1.JPG The pattern looks the same in both left and right pancam images so I believe this is not dust on the lens nor a compression artifact. I think Spirit's driving, and particularlly dragging the stuck wheel, has produced enough vibration to cause the dust on the sundial to clump. This may be happening on the solar panels too. Has anyone noticed this in images of the solar panels or heard if the power levels have been climbing faster than expected? |
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Mar 28 2007, 04:36 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1887 Joined: 20-November 04 From: Iowa Member No.: 110 |
OK answering my own question. this image from the pancam site appears to have some clumping although it could just noise.
http://marswatch.astro.cornell.edu/pancam_..._False_L257.jpg |
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Mar 28 2007, 01:50 PM
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So, would clumping be a good thing or a bad thing? Or would there be any noticeable difference in Watt hours.....?
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Mar 28 2007, 02:55 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 4246 Joined: 17-January 05 Member No.: 152 |
It's definitely real structure - it persists in detail on different sols and under different lighting:
http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/all...4JP2838L7M1.JPG And back on sol 1139 some of the detailed structure we see today was present, and some isn't: http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/all...ZWP2111L7M1.JPG |
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Mar 28 2007, 08:55 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 477 Joined: 2-March 05 Member No.: 180 |
The result of extremely slight condensation, perhaps? If it's getting warmer, maybe the humidity is increasing to whatever miniscule amount it gets to on Mars.
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Mar 28 2007, 09:18 PM
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Founder Group: Chairman Posts: 14432 Joined: 8-February 04 Member No.: 1 |
I'm going to try a little experiment on this - icing sugar and a flat surface...then tap the surface for a while ( like driving over rough terrain ) - see what happens
OK - cocoa powder dusted onto a piece of carbon fibre. Then - all I did - was shake the thing for a few seconds - not much - just a little shake for a few seconds, perhaps 5mm amplitude, 5hz for 2 seconds....and I get 'clumping' of sorts. That dial is on the edge of an array that is going to bounce and wobble a little bit as the vehicle drives - I can well imagine the same thing happening on the dial. Doug |
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Mar 29 2007, 05:19 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 2228 Joined: 1-December 04 From: Marble Falls, Texas, USA Member No.: 116 |
This is interesting, but also odd. These rovers have been vibrating all over the place as they have bounded over the surface of this planet and have gotten dusty and cleaned off several times. I don't think we've seen anything quite like this before. I've tried my bag of tricks on the images and thought I "might" have seen clumping on vertical surfaces, though they are nothing I would post. It sure looks "real," though.
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Mar 29 2007, 06:14 AM
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Merciless Robot Group: Admin Posts: 8783 Joined: 8-December 05 From: Los Angeles Member No.: 602 |
On the other hand, what if this is flour-fine material is sticking to the sundial via purely electrostatic means? We haven't had a cleaning event in quite some time, so it seems possible that wind-borne dust may be accumulating on this elevated area which has a slightly different charge than the terrain...just a thought.
Wonder if maybe MSL should drag a grounding strip behind it as many cars do in the Southwest US desert. -------------------- A few will take this knowledge and use this power of a dream realized as a force for change, an impetus for further discovery to make less ancient dreams real.
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Mar 29 2007, 07:07 AM
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Founder Group: Chairman Posts: 14432 Joined: 8-February 04 Member No.: 1 |
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Mar 29 2007, 02:20 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 4246 Joined: 17-January 05 Member No.: 152 |
One more point - the dust layer looks the thickest it's ever been now - it's almost impossible to make out the concentric rings on the sundial! Maybe this is some clumping behaviour that only happens after some critical thickness is reached.
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Mar 29 2007, 09:34 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 866 Joined: 15-March 05 From: Santa Cruz, CA Member No.: 196 |
too bad there's no humidity instrument on spirit...
..if even a little humidity (and since were in this valley might humidity tend to concentrate here more?) were to assist in an otherwise humidity-free clumping process, it might indicate why we havent seen it until this season in this place. ..or maybe its the composition of the dust, being that were in a relatively saltier place, and maybe that helps too. |
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Mar 30 2007, 01:57 AM
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Merciless Robot Group: Admin Posts: 8783 Joined: 8-December 05 From: Los Angeles Member No.: 602 |
[MSL]....doesn't need to keep solar panels clean Doug Snap!!! Actually, I was thinking more about dust accumulation in mechanical joints or on antennas, sensors, etc. Any of that can't be good in the long term, and the longevity of the MERs has provided some invaluable data on this process, at least qualitatively. I'd like to see MSL fully functional until the last possible useable erg has been extracted from the RTG(s?)... -------------------- A few will take this knowledge and use this power of a dream realized as a force for change, an impetus for further discovery to make less ancient dreams real.
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Apr 1 2007, 04:38 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1887 Joined: 20-November 04 From: Iowa Member No.: 110 |
From the Planetary Society's MER update:
QUOTE "The energy levels for Spirit are running just over 400 watt-hours lately, reported JPL's Bruce Banerdt, MER project scientist. This is about 20 watt-hours ( ~5 % )over Helvick's last projection: http://www.unmannedspaceflight.com/index.p...ost&p=79094 No way to tell if this is because of the clumping or if dust levels are lower than last year though. |
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