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Astrobotic PM-1 mission, CLPS mission with NASA and commercial payloads
Phil Stooke
post Feb 4 2022, 03:12 AM
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I am starting a new thread for this mission which should fly this year.

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post Jan 13 2024, 09:14 PM
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Been thinking about ways to visualize the evolving fuel situation, and whether it was converging towards anything or otherwise showing trends. I thought of two ways.
  • First version plots the projected zero-fuel time vs the update time, alongside a reference "out of time" line (where y=x). Some linear trendlines indicate that initially they weren't improving faster than the leak. But eventually have caught up and overall each improvement was been greater than the proportional loss during the time between updates (dy/dx > 1). But that should probably be interpreted in light of a presumably ~exponential decay...
  • Second illustration tries to show that a little more directly. At each update timestamp I draw a line* to zero after the stated number of hours. Initial "fuel" value at time of anomaly report (update #1) arbitrarily set to 100, projecting backwards using slope from following update (#6, which was the first one with a time estimate). *N.B: may make more sense to think of y-axis like log(remaining fuel)? Not sure if that distinction makes a difference anymore...

And of course, between the time I started plotting and when I post this, now they're projecting to hit the Earth. Ah well.
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post Jan 14 2024, 01:16 AM
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QUOTE (Greenish @ Jan 13 2024, 09:14 PM) *
eventually have caught up and overall each improvement was been greater than the proportional loss during the time between updates

Well, I'd suspect that a stuck valve works both ways. Which suggests that there is now a helium & NO/NO4 froth filling the oxidizer and pressurant tanks. Which might not be so bad, having some liquid in the pressure tank might have helped to close the wonky valve.

The analogy I think of is just cracking open a warm 2 litre bottle of soda- you get an initial blast of carbonated water, but that quickly subsides and what mostly escapes the opening (here the cracked tank) is the gas, not so much the liquid.

Perhaps the trick here would be figuring out a way for 'ullage thrust' to push the "flat soda" oxidizer (and fuel) into the engine for a burn attempt?
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- Phil Stooke   Astrobotic PM-1 mission   Feb 4 2022, 03:12 AM
- - Thorsten Denk   Peregrine will be the payload of the maiden flight...   Feb 4 2022, 09:52 AM
- - Phil Stooke   https://twitter.com/SpcPlcyOnline/status/160022832...   Dec 6 2022, 09:25 PM
- - Bill Harris   Have we got any sites outlining or detailing the m...   Dec 7 2022, 08:09 PM
|- - mcaplinger   QUOTE (Bill Harris @ Dec 7 2022, 12:09 PM...   Dec 7 2022, 08:55 PM
- - Phil Stooke   https://blogs.nasa.gov/clps/2023/02/02/new-...robo...   Feb 2 2023, 10:44 PM
- - Phil Stooke   This is the landing site for Astrobotic PM1 in Sin...   Jul 7 2023, 08:16 PM
- - Thorsten Denk   Launch is now foreseen for Christmas Eve (24-dec)...   Oct 25 2023, 01:53 PM
- - Phil Stooke   https://www.nasa.gov/wp-content/uploads/202...ess-...   Nov 29 2023, 11:01 PM
- - kymani76   My version of Phil's landing map above, colo...   Dec 3 2023, 11:06 AM
- - Phil Stooke   Great map, thanks. I had only seen some of the sm...   Dec 3 2023, 05:57 PM
|- - kymani76   Thank you Phil. The source might be very familiar ...   Dec 3 2023, 11:21 PM
- - Phil Stooke   Ah, yes, so long since I did that, I only remember...   Dec 4 2023, 03:59 AM
- - Thorsten Denk   According to this TwiX https://twitter.com/Spacefl...   Dec 5 2023, 10:26 AM
- - Thorsten Denk   According to this TwiX from Tory Bruno https://twi...   Dec 10 2023, 06:28 PM
- - Phil Stooke   https://twitter.com/astrobotic/status/173712317633...   Dec 19 2023, 05:08 PM
- - mcaplinger   Fingers crossed. But FWIW, I am certainly not hol...   Dec 19 2023, 08:06 PM
- - Thorsten Denk   https://twitter.com/ulalaunch/status/1742233436457...   Jan 2 2024, 08:27 PM
- - nprev   Successful launch & TLI, spacecraft AOS just o...   Jan 8 2024, 08:21 AM
- - nprev   Agh. Serious anomaly. Hopefully it will be resolve...   Jan 8 2024, 04:15 PM
|- - mcaplinger   QUOTE (nprev @ Jan 8 2024, 08:15 AM) Agh....   Jan 8 2024, 04:53 PM
- - mcaplinger   Landing almost certainly off the table.   Jan 8 2024, 06:35 PM
|- - HSchirmer   QUOTE (mcaplinger @ Jan 8 2024, 07:35 PM)...   Jan 8 2024, 10:14 PM
- - nogal   Astrobotic has been publishing news reports on the...   Jan 8 2024, 09:49 PM
- - Explorer1   The Vulcan took it to TLI, but they were planning ...   Jan 8 2024, 10:31 PM
- - Thorsten Denk   Update #6: "An ongoing propellant leak [...]...   Jan 9 2024, 08:05 AM
|- - mcaplinger   QUOTE (Thorsten Denk @ Jan 9 2024, 12:05 ...   Jan 9 2024, 04:41 PM
|- - HSchirmer   QUOTE (mcaplinger @ Jan 9 2024, 04:41 PM)...   Jan 9 2024, 06:55 PM
||- - mcaplinger   QUOTE (HSchirmer @ Jan 9 2024, 10:55 AM) ...   Jan 9 2024, 07:27 PM
|- - mcaplinger   QUOTE (mcaplinger @ Jan 9 2024, 08:41 AM)...   Jan 9 2024, 11:01 PM
|- - HSchirmer   QUOTE This seems odd to me, since usually such a v...   Jan 12 2024, 02:34 PM
|- - rlorenz   QUOTE (mcaplinger @ Jan 9 2024, 06:01 PM)...   Jan 14 2024, 06:09 PM
|- - Edomann   QUOTE (rlorenz @ Jan 14 2024, 06:09 PM) C...   Jan 29 2024, 04:58 AM
|- - mcaplinger   QUOTE (Edomann @ Jan 28 2024, 08:58 PM) I...   Jan 29 2024, 06:54 AM
- - Bjorn Jonsson   From the latest update from Astrobotics: QUOTE .....   Jan 9 2024, 10:29 PM
- - Explorer1   https://www.astrobotic.com/update-10-for-pe...ne-m...   Jan 10 2024, 05:45 PM
- - Phil Stooke   https://twitter.com/tony873004/status/174527475741...   Jan 11 2024, 07:32 AM
- - Thorsten Denk   > This tweet (or whatever you call it these day...   Jan 11 2024, 08:35 AM
- - marsbug   Jeff Foust reports that nine of the payloads are p...   Jan 11 2024, 06:44 PM
- - Explorer1   Great to see transparency from Astrobotic; Update ...   Jan 12 2024, 04:22 AM
- - Thorsten Denk   I wonder if they still have enough control to do m...   Jan 12 2024, 09:31 AM
- - Explorer1   Well, there's no functioning seismometers on t...   Jan 12 2024, 03:08 PM
|- - HSchirmer   QUOTE (Explorer1 @ Jan 12 2024, 04:08 PM)...   Jan 12 2024, 03:39 PM
- - Phil Stooke   Scott Tilley has an impact prediction: https://tw...   Jan 12 2024, 06:43 PM
- - Explorer1   Some (marginally) better news. QUOTE Peregrine ha...   Jan 12 2024, 07:56 PM
- - Greenish   Been thinking about ways to visualize the evolving...   Jan 13 2024, 09:14 PM
|- - Greenish   In case anyone cares to not re-do the tabulation, ...   Jan 13 2024, 09:26 PM
|- - HSchirmer   QUOTE (Greenish @ Jan 13 2024, 09:14 PM) ...   Jan 14 2024, 01:16 AM
- - mcaplinger   Without a schematic of the propulsion system, it...   Jan 14 2024, 05:58 PM
- - Thorsten Denk   Latest update, very detailed and interesting: http...   Jan 15 2024, 12:30 PM
- - Thorsten Denk   "Peregrine appears to have reentered [Jan 18]...   Jan 19 2024, 08:57 AM
- - Explorer1   Some poignant video footage has been released, sep...   Jan 20 2024, 08:07 PM


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