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elakdawalla
post Feb 1 2010, 09:44 PM
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Remember that discussion of this budget is not permitted here -- it is however welcome on Van's blog, which, as he said at the top of this thread, establishes a place where UMSFers can discuss this topic, which is clearly of interest to many of you but off-limits here.


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post Feb 1 2010, 10:17 PM
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Right, sorry.

Of course The Planetary Society will also be a great place to follow this news. I'm all ears.

EDIT: And there it is: http://www.planetary.org/blog/article/00002328/
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post Feb 17 2010, 04:04 AM
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I've posted descriptions of an Enceladus sample return mission and a Titan airplane mission at my blog futureplanets.blogspot.com


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post Feb 23 2010, 03:26 PM
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NASA has just released its detailed FY 2011 budget proposal. I have an analysis of the planetary exploration budget at FuturePlanets.

For a look at the bigger NASA budget, check out Space Politics.

Please remember that discussions of politics and budgets are not allowed on this forum.


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Paolo
post Nov 8 2010, 06:21 PM
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the mission and technology studies selected for the second planetary exploration decadal survey are now available online
http://sites.nationalacademies.org/SSB/SSB_059331
pick your favorite concept. too bad only a handful will fly... sad.gif
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post Nov 8 2010, 07:39 PM
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Lots of interesting ideas in there. I particularly like the "Saturn Ring Observer Concept": a spacecraft hovering about 3km above the ring plane. Close enough to resolve the ring particles.
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post Nov 8 2010, 08:34 PM
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I dunno about anyone else, but I'm going through those pdfs like a kid in a particularly well-stocked sweetshop. biggrin.gif

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post Nov 8 2010, 08:50 PM
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"like a kid in a particularly well-stocked sweetshop."

Isn't here emoticon for drooling? smile.gif

Thanks Paolo!


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post Nov 8 2010, 10:27 PM
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Some rather obscure proposals in there! It would seem to me that the Chiron Orbiter and Saturn Atmospheric Probe could be combined (yeah, not on the same budget), although the reference to Jupiter or(?) Saturn flyby in the Chiron proposal might simply mean Jupiter is much preferred. That would actually be pretty neat... Saturn flyby, Saturn Probe, and Chiron Orbiter. Ahh, we can dream.
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post Nov 9 2010, 12:46 AM
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Emily,

Isn't that your handiwork on the photo on page 1 of the Scientific Objectives in the Enceladus Orbiter mission? It sure looks familiar. That photo was my computer wallpaper for many months.

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post Nov 9 2010, 03:46 AM
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As you look through the proposals, some are clearly much more detailed than others, which are still very conceptual. The Survey is much more likely to go for the well developed ideas.


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post Nov 9 2010, 03:49 AM
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Strange. No matter how much of this candy I eat, I only get hungrier! ph34r.gif

There are some remarkable concepts here; VERY hard to pic favs. Still reading...


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post Nov 9 2010, 05:18 AM
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That was one heck of a ride!
Great link in so many ways, thanks.


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post Nov 9 2010, 11:39 AM
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Thanks for the link Paolo - very absorbing read.

It's noticeable how we're still very dependant on sunlight for powering our exploration of the solar system - many of the outer planet mission proposals rely on the uncertain availability of Plutonium for power, with it's attendant planetary protection issues, and cost considerations.
Jupiter's radiation environment also presents major challenges to any of orbital missions outlined there.

My favourites of those I've looked at would be:

Titan/Saturn System mission (ballooning and boating on Kraken Mare anyone?)
Io observer
Flagship Neptune orbiter (I'd be in my late sixties at orbit insertion if this was to go ahead.....)

Fascinating proposals though.

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post Nov 9 2010, 04:00 PM
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I'm very partial to the Neptune Orbiter as well. We don't know nearly enough about that system, and Triton seems to basically be a captured large KBO....lotta bang for the buck to be had there.


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