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July 20 2007 icy moon images (rev 48)
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post Jul 22 2007, 02:41 PM
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Latest Tethys and Enceladus images are up
http://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov/multimedia/imag...0&storedQ=0
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post Jul 22 2007, 03:35 PM
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Looks like some new details on Tethys north of Melanthius...


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post Jul 22 2007, 06:34 PM
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Finally some sharper views of the great Odysseus basin !

http://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov/multimedia/imag...2/N00086709.jpg

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post Jul 23 2007, 02:16 AM
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Woohoo! Very nice set this pass, and scads of new and better-defined detail north of Melanthius to concur with Steve. Quick-an' filthy summary here:

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post Jul 23 2007, 04:07 AM
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Whoo-hoo! EC's back, layin' down the phat montages old-school...long time no perceive, don't be gone like that no more, yo!

Tethys looks more and more interesting. Confess that I don't know the nomenclature, but that rather 'lengthy' central peak in that large crater is intriguing...busted open a fault, maybe? Certainly merits futher examination.


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post Jul 23 2007, 06:52 AM
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In the "Pedantic Quibbles Department"...

"Finally some sharper views of the great Odysseus basin !"

Is it a "basin" if the floor is essentially everywhere convex?
(It may be a basin in relation to the Tethyian geoid, of course)
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post Jul 23 2007, 01:42 PM
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I say, if you walk downhill to get to the middle and uphill to get to the edge, it's a basin, no matter what it looks like from orbit! The smaller the body, the weirder the basins -- most of Itokawa's basins appear noticeably convex from above, but they are "holes" as far as local gravity is concerned.

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post Jul 23 2007, 03:15 PM
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If using an Earth based term like "basin" on Tethys seems wrong, using it to describe features on a rubble pile like Itakowa is even furthur out of the park.

Even weirder to me was the Japanese naming one of the features on Itokawa the "Muses Sea". Although I grant you it occured to me that perhaps it was an in joke, since the Hayabusa mission was originally called "Muses C" if I recall correctly.

I think a new nomenclature is needed.

Of course, only a handful of people on Earth would ever learn it, so maybe it would just make things even more difficult than they already are.
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post Jul 23 2007, 04:14 PM
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No, a new nomenclature is not needed! Rules of supposed logic can't be applied backwards down the line of an evolving disciplinary jargon. A basin in this context is a multi-ringed impact structure, it has nothing to do with its depth. Just as the word 'crater', originally meaning a cup, and applied to cup-shaped depressions on the Moon and Earth, can be applied to Wargentin (on the Moon) despite it being filled to the rim.

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post Jul 23 2007, 05:19 PM
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When I used the term "basin" for Odysseus I meant "giant impact scar".
Sorry if I misused the word.
However, I would agree with Phil when he says that it has nothing to do with its depth. Just as an example, Valhalla and Asgard on Callisto are also called basins and are almost flat. I think there are plenty of such examples in our solar system.
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post Jul 23 2007, 05:34 PM
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Exactly, Phil. What is a patera on Io isn't necessarily the same on Mars, or Venus, or Titan. Same goes with Lacus for Titan and the Moon.


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post Jul 23 2007, 07:59 PM
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What is this ??

http://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov/multimedia/imag...iImageID=116751

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post Jul 23 2007, 08:16 PM
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Tis an overexposed image of Rhea


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post Jul 24 2007, 07:01 AM
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<grin>

Pedantic quibbles can stir up an interesting... and relevant... discussion!
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post Jul 24 2007, 05:42 PM
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New Hyperion images are in.

There is a great crater with a central peak visible. I never knew it existed.
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