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 Nov 26 2018, 11:30 PM
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QUOTE (ElkGroveDan @ Nov 26 2018, 11:33 PM)  Veronica and Emily both look like they've gotten younger in the 5 or 6 years since I last saw either of them. Probably the same for you Dan, you’ve been kind of hibernating...? 
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Nov 26 2018, 11:39 PM
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QUOTE (climber @ Nov 26 2018, 03:30 PM) Probably the same for you Dan, you’ve been kind of hibernating...? No. I'm more bald and I grew a white beard. -------------------- If Occam had heard my theory, things would be very different now.
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Nov 26 2018, 11:40 PM
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If landing site are match that image could be fine.
This is small version, I have also BIG 12000 x 8000 px
check MRO/HIRISE DTM for that area: https://www.uahirise.org/dtm/dtm.php?ID=ESP_038449_1845 -------------------- Adam Hurcewicz from Poland
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Nov 27 2018, 12:00 AM
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Possible meteorite? Pure speculation at this point. Congrats to the engineers!
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Nov 27 2018, 12:09 AM
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A reminder how the Hazcam of Curiosity looks before the dusty dust cover comes off in 2012:
https://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/msl-raw-images/pr...AUT_04096M_.JPG and after it comes off: https://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/msl-raw-images/pr...AUT_04096M_.JPG It seems that on Curiosity the dust slips also beyond the cover a little..but its just a guess what we might see in a few hours from the cover free Insight camera (in color!) |
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Nov 27 2018, 12:24 AM
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120 degrees de-fisheyed version, and an attempt to improve contrast of the environment behind the dust cover:
Out-of-the-hip, I didn't find a good technique to remove the patches on the dust cover, so I enhanced the contrast in the background, instead. There is also a saturation and brightnes gradient, which I didn't try to remove. The lander seems to be slightly tilted. Might be, that one of the feet is standing on top of a small rock like the one in the foreground. |
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Nov 27 2018, 12:55 AM
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QUOTE (Gerald @ Nov 27 2018, 01:24 AM) ...The lander seems to be slightly tilted. Might be, that one of the feet is standing on top of a small rock like the one in the foreground... They said on the post landing conference the tilt was less than 2 degrees. |
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Nov 27 2018, 01:23 AM
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Can we compare Marco’s image definition to Mariner 4’s? Distance to Mars, FOV, etc...?
It seams to me that we can see some features... -------------------- |
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Nov 27 2018, 01:31 AM
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The expected time for an orbiter downlink (looks like MODY) is approaching. Suggest following Emily's updated article here; if anyone gets a scoop, it'll be her.
-------------------- A few will take this knowledge and use this power of a dream realized as a force for change, an impetus for further discovery to make less ancient dreams real.
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Nov 27 2018, 01:38 AM
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QUOTE (nprev @ Nov 27 2018, 02:31 AM) The expected time for an orbiter downlink (looks like MODY) is approaching. Suggest following Emily's updated article here; if anyone gets a scoop, it'll be her. I am watching DSN Now like a hawk, lol. |
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Nov 27 2018, 01:40 AM
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Yeah, but remember the same caution as the Oppy recovery efforts...it's not an authoritative indicator of anything, really.
-------------------- A few will take this knowledge and use this power of a dream realized as a force for change, an impetus for further discovery to make less ancient dreams real.
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Nov 27 2018, 02:03 AM
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I understand the caution about DSN Now in terms of the variable "positive predictive value" of it appearing to be communicating with a certain spacecraft. What is the "negative predictive value" of it showing a prolonged (i.e. in this case >25 min) NO communication through any antenna with a given spacecraft at a time that comm. was expected?
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Nov 27 2018, 02:06 AM
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No idea. All I know is that the real word on anything's gotta come from NASA/JPL.
-------------------- A few will take this knowledge and use this power of a dream realized as a force for change, an impetus for further discovery to make less ancient dreams real.
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Nov 27 2018, 02:15 AM
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QUOTE (dmg @ Nov 27 2018, 03:03 AM) I understand the caution about DSN Now in terms of the variable "positive predictive value" of it appearing to be communicating with a certain spacecraft. What is the "negative predictive value" of it showing a prolonged (i.e. in this case >25 min) NO communication through any antenna with a given spacecraft at a time that comm. was expected? I dont think the DSN Now site showed any downlink from the Parker Solar Probe in the hour or so after it was launched |
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Nov 27 2018, 02:18 AM
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Yes but in this case the expected comm pass was with mars odyssey which would transmit from what it got from insight. Anyway nothing to do but wait and see
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