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Mar 16 2006, 12:23 AM
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Merciless Robot Group: Admin Posts: 8783 Joined: 8-December 05 From: Los Angeles Member No.: 602 |
Now, now...let's not write off either of the MERs yet. These machines are amazingly durable and adaptive (gotta give a shout out to Lockheed-Martin, for once, and of course the MER JPL team who have really shown us all how it's supposed to be done!!!)
While I know that they have to stop someday, it just seems like now is not the time. Personally, I would give an even chance of both of them lasting until mid-2008, and one of them surviving until 2010. -------------------- A few will take this knowledge and use this power of a dream realized as a force for change, an impetus for further discovery to make less ancient dreams real.
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Mar 16 2006, 08:33 AM
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Founder Group: Chairman Posts: 14432 Joined: 8-February 04 Member No.: 1 |
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Mar 16 2006, 08:38 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 877 Joined: 7-March 05 From: Switzerland Member No.: 186 |
Almost 20 meters to landing ellipse. It's a bit more (70 meters). I vote for the center of Tes's drawn in landing elipse that fixs the limit. -------------------- |
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Mar 16 2006, 04:28 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 2488 Joined: 17-April 05 From: Glasgow, Scotland, UK Member No.: 239 |
Now, now...let's not write off either of the MERs yet. These machines are amazingly durable and adaptive (gotta give a shout out to Lockheed-Martin, for once, and of course the MER JPL team who have really shown us all how it's supposed to be done!!!) While I know that they have to stop someday, it just seems like now is not the time. Personally, I would give an even chance of both of them lasting until mid-2008, and one of them surviving until 2010. Should we start a pool, then? I'd prefer not to look on it as a 'how long until Spirit/Opportunity dies' but instead 'how much longer than the nominal mission lifetime will the rovers last?'. Bob Shaw -------------------- Remember: Time Flies like the wind - but Fruit Flies like bananas!
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Mar 16 2006, 04:43 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 2173 Joined: 28-December 04 From: Florida, USA Member No.: 132 |
Should we start a pool, then? Bob Shaw A rover dead pool? Yuck! There would be the grisly detail of deciding what constitutes death. Last transmission? Last useful data relay? Official termination of communication attempts? How about: "Place your bets on which rover lasts longer."? or which goes farther? |
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Mar 16 2006, 06:23 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 753 Joined: 23-October 04 From: Greensboro, NC USA Member No.: 103 |
Or, "Which one first goes on display at the National Air and Space Museum?" I'd like to be alive to see that...
-------------------- Jonathan Ward
Manning the LCC at http://www.apollolaunchcontrol.com |
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Mar 16 2006, 06:25 PM
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Founder Group: Chairman Posts: 14432 Joined: 8-February 04 Member No.: 1 |
I wouldnt want to see them brought 'home' - leave them where they belong, in their home, up there.
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Mar 16 2006, 06:27 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 510 Joined: 17-March 05 From: Southeast Michigan Member No.: 209 |
We'll probably end up seeing the testbed rover at the NASM, I imagine. Does it have a name?
-------------------- --O'Dave
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Mar 16 2006, 07:25 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 103 Joined: 12-February 05 From: Utah Member No.: 167 |
I don't know if it has a name, but that would be a great place for it. I saw the 1/1 full scale model of the Mars Rover at the NASM a couple of years back, looked good, but I don't know if it looked completely realistic. Right by the rover they had a video monitor with pics of Endurance Crater, which Oppy had just reached.
If they put in the NASA test article I would love to see it up close. -------------------- - My signature idea machine is busted right now.
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Mar 16 2006, 07:31 PM
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Founder Group: Chairman Posts: 14432 Joined: 8-February 04 Member No.: 1 |
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Mar 16 2006, 08:52 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 1 Joined: 16-March 06 Member No.: 707 |
Yup - Mars Odyssey is doing good relay. But they didn't have much involvement with the rovers as I understand it. Doug As I recall, Ball Aerospace did the pancam, pancam mast, high-gain antenna and gimbal, and all the power and pyro electronics. Somebody else did the arm; I don't recall who. R. |
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Mar 17 2006, 12:58 AM
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I wouldnt want to see them brought 'home' - leave them where they belong, in their home, up there. Doug lets compromise and have the rovers come back for a tour,sort of like King Tut's treasure coming to he US and then return them back to mars :-) The most memorable rover mission my be yet to come and this decision of what to do with these might not be as important. |
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Mar 17 2006, 01:15 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1636 Joined: 9-May 05 From: Lima, Peru Member No.: 385 |
Premptive Route Map [attachment=4548:attachment] Assuming the rover drivers are paranoid about crossing dunes I don't think it so. They have already learned and they MUST know which sand is transverable or not. Now, the transverse is of 100% checked before advanced and also there is an improved software which checks for the wheel sleepage. Driving over the outcrop, the time would lead three times longer. No such long time for a so acked and troubled Oppy's wheel drivers. Rodolfo Definitely going to South on Sol760. It seems Oppy avoided to go into this dangerous dune at the last moment, or it was intentional? [attachment=4550:attachment][attachment=4551:attachment] This kind drive is most probably as intentional since the previous looks alike drive style is for scratching the land in order to check the type of subsurface of land. Rodolfo Now, now...let's not write off either of the MERs yet. These machines are amazingly durable and adaptive (gotta give a shout out to Lockheed-Martin, for once, and of course the MER JPL team who have really shown us all how it's supposed to be done!!!) While I know that they have to stop someday, it just seems like now is not the time. Personally, I would give an even chance of both of them lasting until mid-2008, and one of them surviving until 2010. Yes really an amazing wheels since they looks pretty thin and fragil and how these thin, small and elegant design are able barely withstand as much as a 1000 km of a truck 4x4 off road (comparing the circunference distance between them) on desert without washing and grease the truck's chasis. Rodolfo |
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Mar 17 2006, 01:41 AM
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Junior Member Group: Members Posts: 90 Joined: 13-January 05 Member No.: 143 |
Somebody else did the arm; I don't recall who. The arm came from a small business in Pasadena: Small California Aerospace Company Contributes to Mars Rover Mission Alliance Spacesystems, Inc. Honored with NASA's Prestigious George M. Low Award |
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Mar 17 2006, 02:50 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 2998 Joined: 30-October 04 Member No.: 105 |
Alliance Spacesystems has tech info on the IDD at their website.
And Honeybee Robotics did the RAT. --Bill -------------------- |
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