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Posted by: ljk4-1 Dec 22 2005, 03:04 PM

Installation of the Herschel Sunshield onto Payload Module

Currently at the European Space Research And Technology Centre (ESTEC),
Noordwijk, The Netherlands, the assembly of the Herschel Structural and Thermal
Qualification model satellite is nearing completion with its two main modules,
the payload module and the service module, already mated together.

http://sci.esa.int/science-e/www/object/index.cfm?fobjectid=38487

Posted by: Rakhir Feb 10 2006, 10:23 AM

Herschel Ready for Mechanical Vibration and Shock Tests

http://sci.esa.int/science-e/www/object/index.cfm?fobjectid=38735

Posted by: GravityWaves Mar 29 2006, 08:12 PM

Here is some more info on JWST and this Herschel space-telescope

http://spire.uleth.ca/index.cfm
http://sci.esa.int/science-e/www/object/index.cfm?fobjectid=29538
http://www.innovations-report.com/html/reports/physics_astronomy/report-21285.html
http://www.bautforum.com/showthread.php?t=32944
http://uplink.space.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=missions&Number=142960&page=10

Looks as if Planck is going up in the same launcher
http://www.unmannedspaceflight.com/index.php?showtopic=2215

Posted by: BruceMoomaw Mar 29 2006, 09:53 PM

Oh, yes; a dual launch has been the plan for a long time to save money.

Posted by: Rakhir Oct 24 2006, 07:18 AM

Herschel-SPIRE Testing at ESTEC

http://www.spacemart.com/reports/Herschel_SPIRE_Testing_at_ESTEC_999.html

Posted by: NMRguy Feb 1 2007, 10:26 PM

New developments with Herschel. It really is a Large Space Simulator.

http://sci.esa.int/science-e/www/object/index.cfm?fobjectid=40558

"The Herschel cryostat was moved into the Large Space Simulator at ESTEC on Sunday, 21 January, in preparation for a three week test during which the cryostat will be exposed to vacuum and temperature conditions approaching those that it will be exposed to once Herschel is launched."

Posted by: Rakhir Sep 19 2007, 07:00 PM

Herschel's heart and brain mated
http://www.esa.int/esaCP/SEM0ZJJPK6F_index_0.html

Nice animation showing the details of the cryostat.

and :
http://www.esa.int/esaSC/SEMJ9XK5P6F_index_0.html

Posted by: ustrax Jan 9 2008, 11:03 AM

Herschel Captain's Log http://spaceurope.blogspot.com/2008/01/one-of-this-years-most-significant.html...Monthly...
I'm Happy...

Posted by: nprev Jan 9 2008, 03:27 PM

Quite the scoop, Rui; congrats! Looking forward to the periodic reports.

Posted by: ustrax Jan 9 2008, 04:52 PM

A pleasure to count with a man that compares a space exploration mission to a medieval cathedral...

Posted by: tedstryk Jan 10 2008, 01:00 PM

This is the first dedicated infrared telescope above the atmosphere that is actually a large telescope. The others' sole claim to fame was their location. For example, Spitzer has an aperture of 0.85 and ISO had an aperture of .6 meters. It should be a very exciting mission.

Posted by: nprev Jan 10 2008, 03:23 PM

Thank you for that terrific complement. I actually would equate UMSF with the first sorties by semi-legged fish onto land, or the first times our distant ancestors left some warm valley in East Africa to see what was beyond the horizon.

It's that important; don't know if we can ever build a monument grand enough to commemorate it. The best testament is to keep on doing it.

Posted by: PhilCo126 Jan 10 2008, 06:23 PM

Both will operate from the Lagrange L2 point ... It's going to be busy at L2

I believe there's isn't any competition for Herschel, some years ago there was a proposal for an 8 meter Single Aperture Far InfraRed space telescope. But did Japan not plan a large 3.5 meter Space Infrared telescope for Cosmology and Astrophysics (SPICA) ?

Posted by: Del Palmer Jan 11 2008, 12:53 AM

SPICA is under development and is on track for a 2010 launch.

Posted by: GravityWaves Jan 20 2008, 11:29 AM

I read a few weeks ago the Japanese mission got delayed, there is a chance JAXA may have a critical design flaw running through all their telescopes as Suzaku and Akari all lost a good percentage of their coolant, boiling it off into space. JAXA is now looking at funding more R&D for increasing the performance of its mechanical coolers, lack of funding may require help from NASA or ESA and the latest launch date is pushing it closer to the year 2015 (by this year JWST should have already launched). Currently the J-Government and Japanese space agency is less concerned about telescopes and more concerned about getting a sample return from the Moon to prevent them from being politically eclipsed by China.

Posted by: PhilCo126 Apr 2 2008, 07:13 PM

ESA's Herschel space observatory will carry the largest telescope ( 3.5 meter Cassegrain mirror with Focal Length 2.70 m ) ever deployed in space. New materials enabled it to only weigh 320 kilograms.
In comparison, the Hubble Space Telescope's 2.4 meter Cassegrain mirror ( Focal Length 57.6 m ) weights 1090 kilograms.

Does anyone know of which material the Herschel mirror is made???

the other Philip

Posted by: ustrax Apr 2 2008, 07:18 PM

Here you have http://sci.esa.int/science-e/www/object/index.cfm?fobjectid=34705.

Posted by: PhilCo126 Apr 2 2008, 07:34 PM

Thank You, it looks like they initially planned a lower weight:
The large size of Herschel’s primary mirror meant that it could not be built in a single piece but instead had to be constructed from 12 separate 'petals', thus becoming the first 'segmented' space mirror as well as the largest to date, weighing 240 kg with an average thickness of about 20 cm and a front face thickness of between two and three millimetres.

Posted by: ustrax Apr 23 2008, 03:32 PM

http://www.esa.int/esaCP/SEM0Z0QJCFF_index_0.html

Posted by: GravityWaves Jun 11 2008, 11:39 AM

assuming the launch is sucessful how long will it take to travel from Earth orbit into L2 point

Posted by: Rakhir Jun 11 2008, 07:47 PM

"In less than six months, Herschel will reach its operational orbit around (...) L2"
http://www.esa.int/esaSC/SEMA539YFDD_index_0.html

Posted by: PhilCo126 Jul 30 2008, 07:23 PM

http://herschel.esac.esa.int/latest_news.shtml

Posted by: PhilCo126 Mar 11 2009, 11:23 AM

For those in the neighborhood during holidays in South of France;
http://www.oamp.fr/expo-herschel/

Posted by: climber Apr 8 2009, 12:03 PM

If you have access to this AWST article: http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/generic/story_generic.jsp?channel=awst&id=news/aw040609p1.xml&headline=Herschel-Planck%20Mission%20Will%20Be%20ESA's%20Highest-Stake%20Science%20Endeavor%20Ever

Posted by: climber Apr 8 2009, 12:05 PM

Unfortunately this is "the other" South... best for Ant than me from South West.

Posted by: PhilCo126 Apr 22 2009, 03:57 PM

The latest on Herschel: http://www.esa.int/esaSC/SEMHNBANJTF_index_0.html

Posted by: climber May 12 2009, 09:58 PM

Follow the launch here: http://www.videocorner.tv/


ARIANESPACE FLIGHT - HERSCHEL and PLANCK

The launch readiness review (RAL) took place in Kourou on Tuesday, May 12, 2008 and authorized count-down operations for the HERSCHEL & PLANCK launch.

For its second launch of the year, Arianespace will orbit two scientific satellites for the European Space Agency: the Herschel space telescope and the Planck scientific observatory.

The two satellites are being launched towards the Lagrange Point (L2), once again demonstrating the operational capabilities of Ariane 5. This is the only launch vehicle on the commercial market today capable of launching two payloads simultaneously, and handling a complete array of missions, from commercial launches into geostationary orbit, to scientific missions into special orbits.

It will be launched from the Ariane launch complex N° 3 (ELA3), in Kourou, French Guiana.

The Ariane 5 ECA launcher lift-off for this flight is scheduled during the day of May 14, 2009 as soon as possible within the following launch window:

UTC
Between 1:12 p.m.
and 2:07 p.m. on
May 14, 2009

Paris, France
Between 3:12 p.m.
and 4:07 p.m. on
May 14, 2009

Kourou, French Guiana
Between 10:12 a.m.
and 11:07 a.m. on
May 14, 2009

Washington, D.C., USA
Between 9:12 a.m.
and 10:07 a.m. on
May 14, 2009

Moscow, Russia
Between 5:12 p.m.
and 6:07 p.m. on
May 14, 2009

Posted by: nprev May 12 2009, 10:02 PM

Great news!!! Thanks for that detailed info, Climber.

Does anyone have a good link for launch coverage? I haven't tried to see an Ariane launch on the Web before, and frankly have had a tough time drilling down to equivalent NASA coverage before.

Posted by: climber May 12 2009, 10:17 PM

Just follow the link I posted at the begining of my post, it works.

Posted by: stewjack May 13 2009, 03:06 AM

Watch Hubble repair mission, or watch Ariane 5 HERSCHEL & PLANCK launch? Watch Hubble repair mission, or watch Ariane 5 HERSCHEL & PLANCK launch? Watch Hubble repair mission, or watch Ariane 5 HERSCHEL & PLANCK launch? Watch Hubble repair mission, or watch Ariane 5 HERSCHEL & PLANCK launch? Watch Hubble repair mission, or watch Ariane 5 HERSCHEL & PLANCK launch? ARRGGGHH

Posted by: dmuller May 13 2009, 05:40 AM

I will be watching Herschel & Planck! NASA got the better replays :-) Also trying to see whether my website can handle "live" launch coverage ... or rather, whether it can handle if the launch is delayed at short notice, which I really dont hope for!

Posted by: Stu May 13 2009, 10:13 AM

Just found a great blog being written by some of the Planck team...

http://planckmission.wordpress.com

There's a Herschel blog too...

http://herschelmission.wordpress.com

And ESA is Twittering both missions, with regular updates...

http://twitter.com/ESAHerschel

http://twitter.com/Planck

SO good to see ESA and ESA scientists embracing the new media like this! If you're interested in the mission, go visit the blog and congratulate them.

Posted by: MahFL May 14 2009, 01:15 PM

Lift off !!

Posted by: MahFL May 14 2009, 01:19 PM

Fairing seperation reported. I assume this is real and not the timeline......

Posted by: MahFL May 14 2009, 01:23 PM

Upper stage ignition.

Posted by: AndyG May 14 2009, 01:25 PM

Herschel and Planck in orbit! Textbook launch.

Posted by: MahFL May 14 2009, 01:39 PM

Hershel has seperated from the upper stage !

Posted by: MahFL May 14 2009, 01:44 PM

Awesome, perfect launch indeed.

Meanwhile HST is getting a new camera and comms today.

Posted by: PhilCo126 May 14 2009, 01:45 PM

A superb day-time launch;
Herschel (3400 Kg) separated from SYLDA at altitude of 1160 Kilometers, SYLDA moved away at 1500 Kilometers and Planck (1950 Kg) was released at 1600 Kilometers. Both spacecraft will perform several apogee motor firings to get them to L2 point. Congrats to ESA & all involved!

Posted by: jamescanvin May 14 2009, 01:45 PM

Congrats to ESA - I haven't been so nervous about a launch in a long time, two such important missions on one flight - whew!

Posted by: Sunspot May 14 2009, 01:51 PM

I was too nervous to watch... Pleased to read things have gone well so far.

Posted by: MahFL May 14 2009, 01:53 PM

Both are alive, signals detected.

Posted by: ugordan May 14 2009, 01:54 PM

Why so nervous? This was the 30th consecutive Ariane 5 success after all. Those guys make it look easy!

Posted by: Mongo May 14 2009, 03:08 PM

Oh, I am always nervous during a launch. You just never know if something has been overlooked during launch vehicle manufacture or assembly.

Posted by: SFJCody May 14 2009, 04:50 PM

It's great isn't it! I remember how much jeering there was after the unfortunate failure of the maiden launch carrying Cluster. They're not laughing now!


Similar to the situation with Hubble in the early 90s- lots of jokes when it became apparent that there was a serious problem, but in the years after 1993 those grins slowly became slack jawed gawping at Hubble's fantastic and awe inspiring visual bounty.

Posted by: tedstryk May 14 2009, 06:04 PM

Happy day for space-borne astronomy!

Posted by: PhilCo126 May 14 2009, 06:40 PM

Indeed Ted, fingers crossed the trip to L2 point goes well... Amazing to see how, from a launch vehicle weighing 777 Tons, about 5.5 Tons will make a great difference for space borne astronomy

Posted by: stevesliva May 14 2009, 08:30 PM

Well, the schadenfreude probably had more to do with the hubris of putting a payload on the maiden launch, and the spectacular nature of the failure, than it had to do with failure itself being unusual, or with people finding anything to jeer about watching a valuable payload disappear. Yes, it may not have been unprecedented to launch a payload on a first flight, but in hindsight it certainly didn't look prudent. I don't think that people necessarily expected the failures to continue. Fair characterization or not, it sort of would be like Boeing inviting a few VIPs onto the 787's first flight and having it crash. The crash is bad, but having an important payload on it compounded it. I guess it wasn't irreplacable. If it were the US, it'd have been some "spare" huge recon sat.

Posted by: ynyralmaen May 14 2009, 09:14 PM

As someone whose research post disappeared in an admittedly very pretty puff of smoke in 1996, I agree that it wasn't very prudent to put Cluster on that particular launcher! One important part of the decision to do so was the very economical price of the launch, but clearly it was a false economy.

It was very galling to discover the very avoidable cause of the loss, and then to take delivery of the returned, dented, mud-covered instruments a few weeks later. Valuable lessons were learnt that will hopefully help prevent anything similar happening again.

Cluster II has of course been a huge success, and is still going strong...

Posted by: ugordan May 14 2009, 09:25 PM

That's hindsight and it's easy to make conclusions now. I'd argue it was as prudent a decision back then as it would be now. The Cluster team had to be aware of the risks involved in the decision to fly on a new and untested vehicle and they still went ahead with it. It doesn't really matter how stupid or avoidable a failure is in retrospect, it's always those unknowns that get you. Hopefully you learn something from your mistakes along the way.

Posted by: nprev May 14 2009, 09:42 PM

Belated congrats to ESA & our European friends on the successful launch! Naturally, I was at the doctor all morning & missed it.

Posted by: ugordan May 15 2009, 01:35 PM

http://www.esa.int/SPECIALS/herschelplanck/SEM4SJZVNUF_1.html

Posted by: stevesliva May 15 2009, 03:37 PM

Herschel has a VMC? Full globe images!

Posted by: djellison May 15 2009, 07:23 PM

I hope ESOC can muscle their way in to get a few VMC images in there during cruise.

Posted by: hendric May 15 2009, 09:53 PM

Wouldn't any such pictures of the Earth be blinded by the Sun? I thought Herschel was supposed to go to L2, right? Now, we could get some potentially nice pictures of the moon, but the viewing angle on that camera looked fairly wide.

Posted by: ustrax Jun 19 2009, 11:57 AM

wow...just W-O-W!
http://www.esa.int/esaSC/SEM76A0P0WF_index_0.html

Posted by: MahFL Jun 19 2009, 12:49 PM

Very nice. Big mirrors in space .

Posted by: Stu Jul 10 2009, 10:15 AM

.. and we have pictures...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/8143447.stm

.. and...

http://herschel.esac.esa.int/FirstLight.shtml

Posted by: Thomas Lesinski Oct 8 2009, 01:21 PM

Hi !

I've been reading UMSF for some time... and I couldn't resist posting this

http://herschel.esac.esa.int/FirstParallelModeImages.shtml

First observations of our Milky Way in SPIRE/PACS parallel mode reveal cold material structures with unprecedented detail.

Posted by: dilo Oct 18 2009, 05:13 PM

Beautiful image but seems a little blurry, sharpened version reveal lot of details indeed!

Posted by: imipak Nov 16 2009, 07:05 PM

Just heard a trailer for this programme, Part 1 of 2, to be broadcast in BBC Radio 4 in the UK on Wednesday morning: http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00nvt8r.

A friend in the US reports that the "Listen again" / iPlayer links work, over there at least, for radio programmes. I'll definitely be ripping it with 'get_iplayer'; it sounds really excellent - from the trailer, anyway...

Posted by: MahFL Dec 16 2009, 04:01 PM

A new website has gone online for Hershel images.

http://oshi.esa.int/

Posted by: machi Jan 27 2010, 08:49 PM

Herschel Science Demonstration Phase Initial Results Presentations:
http://herschel.esac.esa.int/SDP_IR_wkshop.shtml