Rosetta's Earth Swing-by, 13th November, 2007 |
Rosetta's Earth Swing-by, 13th November, 2007 |
Oct 19 2007, 01:32 PM
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"Yesterday, 18 October at 18:06 CEST, the thrusters of ESA’s comet chaser, Rosetta, were fired in a planned, 42-second trajectory correction manoeuvre designed to 'fine tune' the spacecraft's approach to Earth. Rosetta is now approaching Earth for its second planetary swing-by of 2007."
From here. Maybe it is time to start a new thread... Get out of the way, Rosetta is coming to visit us at full speed! -------------------- "Ride, boldly ride," The shade replied, "If you seek for Eldorado!"
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Oct 19 2007, 01:40 PM
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Cool. I can't wait to NOT get more great images from Rosetta...
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Oct 19 2007, 01:53 PM
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Special Cookie Group: Members Posts: 2168 Joined: 6-April 05 From: Sintra | Portugal Member No.: 228 |
Cool. I can't wait to NOT get more great images from Rosetta... Oh yes...I forgot that a complaineorit shower takes place around each Rosetta Swing-by... -------------------- "Ride, boldly ride," The shade replied, "If you seek for Eldorado!"
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Oct 19 2007, 02:03 PM
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Wow! Maybe I missed it - But I hadn't seen the stunning Philae image of Mars+Rosetta before!
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Oct 19 2007, 02:12 PM
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Wow! Maybe I missed it - But I hadn't seen the stunning Philae image of Mars+Rosetta before! I presume you were taking vacations at Saturn by then... -------------------- "Ride, boldly ride," The shade replied, "If you seek for Eldorado!"
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Oct 19 2007, 02:28 PM
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Senior Member Group: Moderator Posts: 2262 Joined: 9-February 04 From: Melbourne - Oz Member No.: 16 |
Well, New Zealand - similar but with fewer rings.
I've found that thread now so i can catch up - silly me thinking that that there wouldn't be any images from the flyby yet, being that it's still the same year. # -------------------- |
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Oct 20 2007, 11:23 AM
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Isn't Rosetta the first spacecraft to visit Mars and then Earth again?
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Oct 20 2007, 11:34 AM
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Isn't Rosetta the first spacecraft to visit Mars and then Earth again? I believe it is. -------------------- |
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Oct 20 2007, 03:14 PM
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I don't know what their release plans are but they do at least plan to take some good photos. I asked Gerhard Schwehm and he said that he'd get back to me with specifics, but broadly speaking, "OSIRIS will observe at approach briefly the night side of the Earth and after perigee will make observations of the Earth and the Moon under the more favourable lighting conditions having the Sun in the back."
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Oct 21 2007, 12:36 PM
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Does anyone know anything about the geometry of the lunar imaging? I recall that it will be fairly distant, but I am not sure if it is near side or far side.
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Oct 21 2007, 05:29 PM
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Oct 21 2007, 08:04 PM
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Well, New Zealand - similar but with fewer rings. Unlike Rosetta's I guess your pictures were... All... Black... -------------------- |
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Nov 5 2007, 11:10 AM
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Here goes!
1) Science plans for Rosetta’s Earth flyby : http://www.planetary.org/blog/article/00001216/ 2) Yet another illustrations to the article above - groundtrack and simulated views : |
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Nov 9 2007, 03:37 AM
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Please note that the Minor Planet Center's official designation for Rosetta is asteroid 2007 VN84
2007 VN84 Editorial Notice |
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Nov 9 2007, 04:11 AM
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Funny! Thanks for pointing that out.
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Nov 10 2007, 07:53 AM
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Please note that the Minor Planet Center's official designation for Rosetta is asteroid 2007 VN84 2007 VN84 Editorial Notice This'll be the third time that this has occurred. There was 'J002E3 that turned out to be the S-IVb from Apollo 12 back in '02. Before that the satellite WIND was marked down as a potential Earth impact threat, at least until it used its RCS system to change orbit. |
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Nov 10 2007, 08:17 AM
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This'll be the third time that this has occurred. There was 'J002E3 that turned out to be the S-IVb from Apollo 12 back in '02. I am not sure, but I don't think that the identification of J002E3 with the Apollo 12 stage was 100 per cent sure. |
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Nov 10 2007, 10:04 AM
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They did some spectroscopy and identified it as TiO2 - the constituent of the white paint used on the those LV's.
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Nov 10 2007, 07:23 PM
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Good grief...that's hysterical! Seems as if our NEO searches are more than effective, anyhow...
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Nov 12 2007, 08:29 AM
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Rosetta Blogging
I hadn't seen this before, so I thought I'd post it. ESA has a blog going for the Rosetta Earth Swing-By 2 (ESB2), at http://webservices.esa.int/page.php?id=37819 It mentions the coverage at the SpaceEurope and Planetary Society blogs. -------------------- --
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Nov 12 2007, 09:38 AM
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ESB2 Info
From the Rosetta Earth Swing-By 2 Master Science Plan- "The baseline attitude of Rosetta is GSEP (GyroStellar Ephemeris Phase, a S/C guidance mode using gyros and star trackers for attitude control) with the spacecraft +X axis pointing to the Sun with a possible bias. The closest approach (CA) will take place on November 13 (DOY317). At the moment of closest approach, the altitude of Rosetta will be 5330 km above the Earth surface, at sub-surface position: 63°46' S, 74°35' W (local time 16:17)." The primary purpose of the Earth Fly-By is trajectory adjustment and velocity change, not science. Science only gets done to the extent that it doesn't interfere with anything else. The attitude that the spacecraft can be in depends on upon allowed exposures of certain faces to the Sun, limited to certain amounts of time. The allowed attitudes effect what the instruments can see. And the instruments are optimized for slowly revolving around a comet at 4 AU, not the brightly lit crescent of a planet during a rapid fly-by. The science value of any observations are therefore not great, but it does provide an indirect science value by allowing instrument calibrations. It might also generate a few really cool pictures. This may not be scientific, but it is still cool. -------------------- --
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Nov 12 2007, 12:59 PM
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Please note that the Minor Planet Center's official designation for Rosetta is asteroid 2007 VN84 Picked up a copy of this mornings Metro on my way back from London and got quite a shock when I turned the page and saw a big picture of Rosetta with a headline along the lines of 'We Missed Up'. I had a few moments of worry until I realized they had just picked up on this story and there hadn't been some major targeting error or something. Phew! James -------------------- |
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Nov 12 2007, 07:21 PM
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Well, this time Earth's flyby is the most important part of the billiard orbital path
Does anyone has an updated orbital path image please ? |
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Nov 12 2007, 07:38 PM
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The above image dates from 5 years ago, so I'm searching the new version but even the ESA.int multimedia website only has a low resolution version
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Nov 12 2007, 09:35 PM
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Nov 13 2007, 01:39 PM
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Indeed Brian, I just got that trajectory-schedule in my e-mail via Dr Andrea Accomazzo, who promised me to check for the color version
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Nov 13 2007, 02:22 PM
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Do you guys the orbit view tool at Rosetta's Science & Technology site? Quite useful...
It's on the left column. -------------------- "Ride, boldly ride," The shade replied, "If you seek for Eldorado!"
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Nov 13 2007, 05:12 PM
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Are they serious?
Rosetta mistaken for a near-miss asteroid ! http://www.space.com/businesstechnology/07...id-mistake.html |
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Nov 13 2007, 07:38 PM
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Nov 13 2007, 11:23 PM
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Nov 14 2007, 09:08 AM
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First images (greyscale nav-cams) are up.
http://esamultimedia.esa.int/multimedia/es..._cam/index.html James -------------------- |
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Nov 14 2007, 09:08 AM
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-------------------- "Ride, boldly ride," The shade replied, "If you seek for Eldorado!"
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Nov 14 2007, 10:34 AM
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While we are waiting, here is a slightly improved version of the two Graham Land images.
Some kind of ice planet... -------------------- |
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Nov 14 2007, 10:35 AM
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The Poet Dude Group: Moderator Posts: 5551 Joined: 15-March 04 From: Kendal, Cumbria, UK Member No.: 60 |
If you zoom in on that you can just make out some AT-ATs closing in on the Rebel base...
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Nov 14 2007, 11:56 AM
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First images (greyscale nav-cams) are up. Who would have guessed that 2007 VN84 has cameras and can transmit them? What a cool asteroid! -------------------- |
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Nov 14 2007, 01:18 PM
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Who would have guessed that 2007 VN84 has cameras and can transmit them? What a cool asteroid! In case you didn't see it, http://www.space.com/businesstechnology/07...id-mistake.html |
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Nov 14 2007, 02:17 PM
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In case you didn't see it, http://www.space.com/businesstechnology/07...id-mistake.html I'm pretty sure he's aware of that. -------------------- |
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Nov 14 2007, 03:15 PM
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Nov 14 2007, 03:24 PM
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Looks like they forgot to link to full-res images.
I wonder if they took a RGB set of the night lights. Probably not, but it would be very cool to see the actual color of the lights as well as the crescent limb. -------------------- |
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Nov 14 2007, 03:35 PM
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I think they learnt the lesson after the Mars flyby - From me wandering around ESOC going "Any Wifi? I want to blog for the enthusiasts!" to this brilliant inside story in near real time. Much credit to the guys in Darmstadt!
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Nov 14 2007, 03:44 PM
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The blog idea is commendable, I was actually surprised when I first learned they were going to do it. I hope they continue this practice in the future as well.
EDIT: Higher resolution OSIRIS image versions are here. Guess what my next wallpaper is... -------------------- |
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Nov 14 2007, 07:17 PM
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<Geography nerd mode on>
Very cool images, but the feature they label as Bagdad (sic) is actually Tehran </Geography nerd mode off> -------------------- &@^^!% Jim! I'm a geologist, not a physicist!
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Nov 14 2007, 08:31 PM
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Nov 14 2007, 08:40 PM
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And it looks like their Windows does not know Hongkong...
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Nov 14 2007, 08:53 PM
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Nov 15 2007, 03:10 AM
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Nov 15 2007, 11:11 AM
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A composite of the OSIRIS crescent and night lights image has been posted.
http://webservices.esa.int/page.php?id=37994 Click image for full size version. -------------------- |
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Nov 16 2007, 03:48 PM
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Nov 18 2007, 10:43 AM
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Nov 18 2007, 12:48 PM
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Nov 19 2007, 03:34 AM
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"Mars’ shifting cinnamon sands shone
lantern-bright in the endless empty night that has become my life and through my outstretched solar wings I caught a fleeting glimpse of proud Olympus, a cloudy scarf of cirrus wrapped around its lofty peak." VERY nice, Stu; one of your best works in my estimation, FWIW. The voyage is real, epic...properly documented in terms of its nobility and vast traverses by you. -------------------- A few will take this knowledge and use this power of a dream realized as a force for change, an impetus for further discovery to make less ancient dreams real.
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Nov 19 2007, 11:02 AM
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The Poet Dude Group: Moderator Posts: 5551 Joined: 15-March 04 From: Kendal, Cumbria, UK Member No.: 60 |
Thanks for the great review! Glad you like it, I was quite pleased with how it turned out. Looks like ESA were too, they've very kindly put it up on the Rosetta blog which I'm v chuffed about.
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Nov 21 2007, 12:26 AM
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The Poet Dude Group: Moderator Posts: 5551 Joined: 15-March 04 From: Kendal, Cumbria, UK Member No.: 60 |
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Nov 21 2007, 12:30 AM
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I don't know if the ESOC team and the OSIRIS guys heard what we were saying after the Mars flyby - but they have just turned things around in 9 months. The blog, the kodak moment images - I'm proud of my space agency right now, and that's a fairly unique thing for a European.
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Nov 21 2007, 12:58 AM
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-------------------- &@^^!% Jim! I'm a geologist, not a physicist!
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Nov 21 2007, 06:40 AM
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The Poet Dude Group: Moderator Posts: 5551 Joined: 15-March 04 From: Kendal, Cumbria, UK Member No.: 60 |
I don't know if the ESOC team and the OSIRIS guys heard what we were saying after the Mars flyby - but they have just turned things around in 9 months. The blog, the kodak moment images - I'm proud of my space agency right now, and that's a fairly unique thing for a European. Maybe Uwe heard us Stu? Doug Well, maybe he heard you! I think I was just a fly buzzing "Where's that Mars crescent image you promised us?!?!" annoyingly in his ear! But seriously, yes, I know what you mean, it's a remarkable and wonderful turnaround as far as Outreach and image release is concerned. The blog was nothing short of superb, a textbook example of how to keep enthusiasts informed about and involved in a mission as something exciting happened. The enthusiasm of all the people involved really shone through in the blog entries, you could tell they were genuinely excited about the fly-past themselves, and took time to answer questions as they came in. The day afterthe fly-past I exchanged emails with Daniel Scuka and he was delighted with how things had gone, and said they intend to repeat the blogging for other missions and ESA activities (he mentioned the delivery of Columbus), which has to be a good thing. I still think that ESA has some way to go. There's been so little data released from it that VENUS EXPRESS is a forgotten or invisible spaceprobe as far as the public are concerned, and I still feel like we're being handed MARS EXPRESS images as treats now and again, and yes, the continuing absence of that "crescent Mars" image still bugs the hell out of me personally because of the principle of the thing, but that's my problem, I know. But last week's ROSETTA fly-past has shown there's a real potential for ESA to "work" when it comes to Outreach and PR, and yes, I'm very proud of them too right now. More than that, when I give my talks in the run-up to Christmas I'll be able to show people breathtaking images of the Earth as seen by a European spaceprobe, and look them in the eye and say "You helped pay for those images to be taken", which is very, very cool -------------------- |
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Nov 21 2007, 06:49 AM
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From the other side of the pond, I give ESA "two thumbs up" for its Outreach shown in the Earth fly-by blog.
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Nov 21 2007, 12:45 PM
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Very cool image, but I get the feeling they forgot to account for nonlinearity of the computer screens. While CCD-based scientific cameras typically produce linear digital numbers, CRT screens have a nonlinear curve (gamma). This has the combined result of enhancing contrast when viewing space images on computer (or TV screens). This effect is also present in MESSENGER Earth flyby imagery. I've applied a (CRT display correct) 2.2 gamma to the image in an attempt to make the displayed brightness better resemble what was actually seen by the camera:
This brings the overall contrast to a similar level of the Kaguya Earth-set imagery, which, being an HDTV camera probably accounts for this nonlinearity by default. A bit of Asia also shows up better with 2.2 gamma. EDIT: A slight tweak to the blue channel because the gamma increased the brightness of the background in blue channel. -------------------- |
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Nov 21 2007, 01:28 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 198 Joined: 2-March 05 From: Richmond, VA USA Member No.: 181 |
What what was the time and date for the full earth image? I am having a harder time than I expected in finding that little bit of trivia!
Also, isn't that TC SIDR moving into Bangladesh? I don't remember any previous full earth (non-geostationary) images containing a fully developed tropical cyclone, particularly not one that was as significant as Sidr, nor essentially at what looks to be very near the time of landfall. -- Pertinax |
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Nov 21 2007, 02:51 PM
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Dublin Correspondent Group: Admin Posts: 1799 Joined: 28-March 05 From: Celbridge, Ireland Member No.: 220 |
Good catch - I'm pretty sure that you are correct that should be Sidr in the upper right of the image but I think this was a day or two before landfall. It's still a very significant image and ugordan's tuning has substantially improved the detail in my opinion.
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Nov 21 2007, 03:37 PM
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Interplanetary Dumpster Diver Group: Admin Posts: 4404 Joined: 17-February 04 From: Powell, TN Member No.: 33 |
Very cool image, but I get the feeling they forgot to account for nonlinearity of the computer screens. Depends. The problem with compensating for the nonlinearity of a monitor is that it really washes out low contrast features. In reality the image has a far wider dynamic range than can be shown on a computer monitor, and Earth, with its dark oceans, somewhat brighter land, and really bright clouds really strains this. What I am saying is that it may not be accidental. It is a trade-off. One can compress the dynamic range on a monitor in a linear way and better replicate the relative brightness of things, or one can privilege the more interesting parts of the dynamic range and preserve low contrast details. -------------------- |
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Nov 21 2007, 04:36 PM
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One can compress the dynamic range on a monitor in a linear way and better replicate the relative brightness of things, or one can privilege the more interesting parts of the dynamic range and preserve low contrast details. I was going for the former in this case. There's something about Earth that makes me want to see it appear as close as possible to what it would actually look like to human eyes, rather than doing any (in)advertent contrast enhancements. This is unlike oher objects like icy moons where the contrast is low and makes them look dull. This is our homeworld. You can compare low Earth orbit views taken by astronauts with ordinary cameras and see that they most of the time differ in contrast to these distant shots by space probes. Of course, in the end computer screens still fail to visualize the sheer brightness of Earth in the blackness of space - it was often said to be painfully bright by Apollo astronauts as the eye had trouble adapting to a pitch black void and bright cloudtops at the same time. Here's a fun comparison between Kaguya and Rosetta, processed to have a similar resolution and sharpness as Kaguya's shot (click to enlarge): -------------------- |
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Nov 21 2007, 05:22 PM
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...but I think this was a day or two before landfall. I agree. The more I looked at the image I realized as well that it had to have been a day or two earlier than I first though. -- Pertinax |
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Nov 21 2007, 06:56 PM
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LOL! Am I really the first one to realize the Rosetta shot is actually mirrored left-right?
Here's the correct view: I knew there was something funny looking about that Australia Here's proof: -------------------- |
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Nov 21 2007, 08:05 PM
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Here is the image with north up and east to the right: I did -------------------- &@^^!% Jim! I'm a geologist, not a physicist!
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Nov 21 2007, 08:49 PM
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I did Oh, my bad. I thought you just rotated it so north is up. I said to myself "where else would east be?" Someone ought to let the Rosetta team know, though.. -------------------- |
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