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SUPRISE......New Steve Q'n'A, Recorded Nov 6th 2006
djellison
post Nov 7 2006, 11:26 AM
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Everyone likes suprises right....

At very short notice ( <36hrs ) - Steve and I managed to meet up in Milton Keynes yesterday evening and do another Q'n'A - this time an hour long talking about everything that's gone on in the last 12 months or so since the first Q'n'A last September.

http://www.rlproject.com/audio/ss_qna_071106.mp3
Approx 14 Meg, 1 hour 48 seconds long.

Sorry I didn't have time to do a call for questions - but with the time between knowing it was on and doing it being so short there just wasn't the time to call for them, plough through them and then pick them...I think I got through all the good stuff though. I tried to see any left over stuff mentioned here, things that might have been asked for a Pancam update but better suited to Steve rather than Jim - and I was able to ask my admin team if they could think of any as well ( thanks guys ).

This time it was on the lounge area on a hotel landing....no ducks or wind noise - but occasional passers by heading to and from their hotel rooms - I hope the quality's good enough (I think it is)

If someone wants to put down time markers for transcription and people do the same as last time, I'd be happy to put together another PDF like last time.

Enjoy!

Doug
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post Nov 11 2006, 12:01 AM
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I got a bit carried away... here's chunk #8. Sorry if anyone else had their eye on that bit! Doug, I'm sorry to report that I can't make out what you're saying in a couple of places; I've indicated those with (?) bracketed question marks.



SS: ...they're going to be fabulous mosaics when they come down, but, ah,..

[ 00:37:40 ]

y'know, the thing that's hurting us right now is that we still don't
/quite/ - almost, but not quite - have enough power to start grabbing
a.m. Odyssey passes. I mean, those a.m. Odyssey passes can be
tremendously valuable in principle; A.W.A., right? We're /real/
close to being able to use a.m. Odyssey passes, but not quite yet, and
so right now our data volume is pretty restricted, and that's going to
be the limiting factor on our pace along the rim of this crater for a
while.

DE: How do the A.M. Odyssey passes work - do you, actually [?] the
rover stay comparatively awake and then deep sleep after the pass, or..?

SS: The way you do an a.m. Odyssey pass is, simply, that you wake the
rover up - you turn the CPU on - at the time when the, uh, vehicle is
going overhead; but the problem is, you can't deep sleep on a night
like that, because the battery - what deep sleep is, is you take the
battery off-line, essentially, and then it automatically goes back
on-line when the rover wakes up in the morning; but you can't wake the
computer up if the battery's off-line; and so, especially on
Opportunity, a.m. Odyssey passes are pretty costly, powerwise, and we
just can't quite afford 'em yet. It'll change soon, but I think about
500 watt-hours is probably the magic number, I think once we get above
500 we'll be able to start doing a.m. passes again, and that'll speed
things up, because the science that we have for Opportunity planned
for the next several months is very, very, very pancam based; you're
going to be seeing a lot of pancamming, and not too much of anything
else, because that's where the real science lies for the next few
months.

DE: Now, you've said that you want to go... clockwise.

SS: Yeah... initially.

DE: ..because clockwise looks perhaps a little more exciting...

SS: Yeah.

DE: ...is that based on the pancam imagery, or is it based on HiRISE?

SS: No. HiRISE, HiRISE. I mean,..

DE: ...cause you can't really see what's up, because we're up against
?? that way.

SS: OK. You notice that the MRO project acquired that image in their
first six days of normal orbital operations. OK. They did that at the
request of the MER project. We went to - I mean, I'm on the HiRISE
team...

DE: (??)

SS: ...but, yeah, we had a team meeting in Berne, is Switzerland -
gosh, what was it - probably five, six, seven weeks ago? I don't know,
a number of weeks ago; and my whole pitch at that meeting was, `Let's
make sure that we get a HiRISE image of Victoria crater before
conjunction, so that we can use that to support this upcoming
strategic decision of, do we go clockwise or counterclockwise around
the crater.' The entire timing of that image, the reason that the
HiRISE took it when it did, was so we could use that image to help
make the decision on which way to go. um... It's a fantastic
image. I'll tell you a funny thing about that image. It was - as I
said, it was planned during the first six days of HiRISE
operations. We had no idea how good the pointing was going to
be. There was considerable concern that we would just miss the target
altogether.

DE: It was *spot on*.

SS: Well, you see, that's the frustrating thing. If I knew -- what we
did was, the most important thing was getting Victoria
crater. Everything else - Eagle, Endurance, all that stuff - was
secondary. We had this big image, and we wanted to make sure that we
got Victoria. So what I said to the HiRISE team was, look: don't screw
around, you know, while it's tempting to bias the centre of the frame
northwards so that we can get Eagle, and Endurance, and the
heatshield, and the backshell, and the parachute, and the lander, and
all the tracks, and all that stuff, let's just put it dead centre on
Victoria and maximise our chances of getting Victoria, because
/that's/ the image that we have a tactical need for now, is - is to
plan which way we're going to go around the crater. Had I known that
the pointing was going to be that good -

DE: Yesss!

SS: -as it came out, it was just dead nuts right in the middle of the
frame, you know? And if I'd've know that it was going to be that good,
we would indeed have biased it north, so one of the things that's now
on our to-do list is to, at some point, to go back to the Opportunity
site and do a shot that *is* biased to the north, and that will catch
all of our other hardware, and tracks, and everything we've done in
the past. But, yeah, it was funny the way that image worked out,
because I was, uh, prepared - we were all prepared for the pointing to
be bad, and it was perfect - just perfect.

DE: (??) just bang-on.

SS: ...and what a picture.


DE: It's, um... it's nice to see something -- MOC did a fantastic job,
seeing the rovers,

SS: Oh yes, yes.

DE: ...it's extraordinary to see them at all. But what HiRISE does is,
you go - "Ah, that's a rover" - you recognise it -

SS: Yeah. That image had a lot of impact on us. I said at the time
that it was good to see the rover again, and you could sort of say
it's a silly thing to say, because every day that we take pancams and
navcams and hazcams, we see the rover - bits of it - and, you can take
a panorama of the whole deck and that sort of thing, and that's... But
somehow it doesn't have the same visceral impact as seeing it.

DE: Sort of,...

SS: Sort of, this lonely, valiant little rover --

DE: ??

SS: Yeah, in the middle of nowhere like that, and especially right up
on - you know, just poised on the lip of that enormous crater that we
fought so hard to get to.

DE: Being so brave... (?)

SS: ..that was a wonderful picture, that was a wonderful picture, you
really got to tip your hat to the HiRISE team, Alfred McEuan and that
whole team that did that instrument, because that was just a
magnificent accomplishment.

[00:43:33]

DE: Now, HiRISE will image Victoria again..


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- djellison   SUPRISE......New Steve Q'n'A   Nov 7 2006, 11:26 AM
- - paxdan   w00t Great stuff Doug. I'm up for a transcrip...   Nov 7 2006, 11:44 AM
|- - imipak   QUOTE (paxdan @ Nov 7 2006, 11:44 AM) I h...   Nov 9 2006, 08:37 PM
- - odave   I'll have a listen today at lunch, then post a...   Nov 7 2006, 01:24 PM
- - akuo   A very big thanks to you and Steve for doing this....   Nov 7 2006, 02:01 PM
- - Aberdeenastro   So what was SS doing in Milton Keynes? Famous ...   Nov 7 2006, 03:46 PM
- - djellison   Primary reason was giving a keynote lecture at the...   Nov 7 2006, 03:57 PM
|- - ustrax   "I don't want to go into the crater until...   Nov 7 2006, 04:17 PM
- - Jeff7   Opportunity's RAT is still working. A way out ...   Nov 7 2006, 05:34 PM
- - MarkL   Sound was excellent. Good mic-ing on SS but you...   Nov 7 2006, 05:38 PM
|- - centsworth_II   QUOTE (MarkL @ Nov 7 2006, 12:38 PM) Good...   Nov 7 2006, 05:55 PM
- - mhoward   That is a really enjoyable interview. I found myse...   Nov 7 2006, 06:02 PM
- - Toma B   Thanks Doug! This Q'n'A was the best y...   Nov 7 2006, 07:13 PM
- - djellison   GongGong http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/pr...   Nov 7 2006, 09:21 PM
- - jamescanvin   Fuzzy Smith, Sol 772, Seq 2595 - http://marsrovers...   Nov 7 2006, 09:29 PM
- - climber   Thanks for your truly full involvement on what you...   Nov 7 2006, 09:30 PM
- - djellison   Bingo http://pancam.astro.cornell.edu/pancam_ins.....   Nov 7 2006, 09:30 PM
- - Nix   Fuzzy Smith...well I look forward to more data on ...   Nov 8 2006, 06:28 PM
|- - centsworth_II   QUOTE (Nix @ Nov 8 2006, 01:28 PM) Fuzzy ...   Nov 8 2006, 08:28 PM
- - odave   OK, make that lunch today - my headphones were AFU...   Nov 8 2006, 07:56 PM
|- - Marz   I'll take chunk 9, if it's still open. QU...   Nov 11 2006, 07:52 PM
|- - Marz   QUOTE (Marz @ Nov 11 2006, 01:52 PM) I...   Nov 11 2006, 09:53 PM
- - MarkL   Post a Word template for the transcript and I...   Nov 8 2006, 08:02 PM
- - odave   We didn't use a template before, we just did o...   Nov 8 2006, 08:15 PM
- - djellison   Just pure straight forward text's good for me....   Nov 8 2006, 08:29 PM
- - MarkL   Part 11 (why not start at the end) D: Now you sa...   Nov 9 2006, 12:54 AM
|- - jamescanvin   QUOTE (MarkL @ Nov 9 2006, 11:54 AM) Midn...   Nov 9 2006, 01:25 AM
- - CosmicRocker   odave: Thanks for breaking it into chunks. I...   Nov 9 2006, 03:54 AM
- - paxdan   I'll take section 7.   Nov 9 2006, 10:50 AM
- - djellison   I said James OMG.... Michael - so so sorry ...   Nov 9 2006, 11:03 AM
|- - mhoward   The only thing that ticks me off about that is tha...   Nov 9 2006, 02:40 PM
||- - jamescanvin   QUOTE (mhoward @ Nov 10 2006, 01:40 AM) T...   Nov 10 2006, 12:05 AM
|- - climber   QUOTE (djellison @ Nov 9 2006, 12:03 PM) ...   Nov 9 2006, 07:45 PM
- - odave   Section 1: ======= DE: We'll, it's been j...   Nov 9 2006, 07:02 PM
- - CosmicRocker   QUOTE (climber @ Nov 9 2006, 01:45 PM) .....   Nov 10 2006, 05:13 AM
- - lyford   I will take Section 06 :: 00:26:39 to 00:31:43 :...   Nov 10 2006, 03:38 PM
- - imipak   Here's Chunk 5. I wasn't too sure about th...   Nov 10 2006, 08:41 PM
- - imipak   I got a bit carried away... here's chunk #8. S...   Nov 11 2006, 12:01 AM
- - CosmicRocker   Chunk #8 was a good one. I almost chose it initia...   Nov 11 2006, 06:45 AM
|- - imipak   QUOTE (CosmicRocker @ Nov 11 2006, 06:45 ...   Nov 11 2006, 10:14 AM
- - diane   I've got it on my iPod to listen to on my morn...   Nov 13 2006, 11:53 AM
- - djellison   If I knew how....I tried for several evenings to m...   Nov 13 2006, 04:12 PM
|- - helvick   QUOTE (djellison @ Nov 13 2006, 04:12 PM)...   Nov 13 2006, 09:18 PM
- - Myran   Thank you for your effort, it was one interesting ...   Nov 13 2006, 08:12 PM
- - lyford   Did my best, but I am afraid I couldn't make o...   Nov 14 2006, 04:45 AM
- - odave   The transcription is coming along great guys - tha...   Nov 14 2006, 01:23 PM
- - NMRguy   Well, we're almost finished, so I'll go ah...   Nov 16 2006, 10:31 AM
- - NMRguy   OK. Here's Section 2. I must admit that I ha...   Nov 16 2006, 12:21 PM
- - lyford   I'll do section 04 - Moving Again Section 04...   Nov 16 2006, 04:10 PM
- - djellison   This all makes great reading It's odd - in ...   Nov 16 2006, 04:27 PM
|- - MarkL   QUOTE (djellison @ Nov 16 2006, 04:27 PM)...   Nov 20 2006, 08:38 PM
- - paxdan   Section 7. 31.44 DE: And once you got there? SS...   Nov 19 2006, 11:25 AM
- - odave   Section 3 (minus NMRguy's overlap at the begin...   Nov 20 2006, 07:19 PM
- - CosmicRocker   I thought I should check in to see if there were a...   Nov 21 2006, 05:02 AM
|- - lyford   QUOTE (CosmicRocker @ Nov 20 2006, 09:02 ...   Nov 21 2006, 06:34 AM
- - lyford   Ok, last installment and it was really nice to hea...   Nov 22 2006, 02:00 AM
- - odave   That's a wrap! Thanks for the effort guys...   Nov 22 2006, 02:27 AM
- - CosmicRocker   Hehe. I never expected to find other Alton Brown ...   Nov 22 2006, 07:19 AM
- - djellison   It'll be a while until I can get round to this...   Nov 22 2006, 07:28 AM
- - odave   To assist readers in thread jumping, here are the ...   Nov 22 2006, 01:53 PM
- - phase4   A big THANK YOU to Doug/umsf for publishing this Q...   Jan 12 2007, 03:36 PM


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