Spirit's New Adventures, The Mission Beyond 1000 Sols |
Spirit's New Adventures, The Mission Beyond 1000 Sols |
Nov 6 2006, 11:39 PM
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Senior Member Group: Admin Posts: 3108 Joined: 21-December 05 From: Canberra, Australia Member No.: 615 |
With Spirit starting to get on the move again (even though it's a very small first step), I think that it's high time we got a new topic going and re-invigorate the Spirit thread.
OK. Spirit's moving again after 6 months at Low Ridge. Here's an animation of the turn (enhanced Front Haz Cam). A big cheer for our little girl at Gusev. Let's support her with lots of discussion on UMSF. Astro0 |
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Nov 7 2006, 12:13 AM
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Senior Member Group: Moderator Posts: 3431 Joined: 11-August 04 From: USA Member No.: 98 |
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Nov 7 2006, 12:16 AM
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Senior Member Group: Moderator Posts: 2262 Joined: 9-February 04 From: Melbourne - Oz Member No.: 16 |
Great idea.
Looks like this turn was to bring the stuff disturbed by the broken wheel into arms reach. I wonder if we'll see another turn in the next few weeks to get that thin outcropping into reach? -------------------- |
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Nov 7 2006, 08:01 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 2920 Joined: 14-February 06 From: Very close to the Pyrénées Mountains (France) Member No.: 682 |
Eppur si muove
**we know Galileo Galilei didn't said that, but it seams appropriate for Spirit -------------------- |
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Nov 7 2006, 10:21 AM
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Nov 7 2006, 10:34 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1619 Joined: 12-February 06 From: Bergerac - FR Member No.: 678 |
"On the road again" good, very good.
I believe that the rover will take his road to McCool Hill, doesn't it? -------------------- |
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Nov 7 2006, 10:36 AM
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Special Cookie Group: Members Posts: 2168 Joined: 6-April 05 From: Sintra | Portugal Member No.: 228 |
"On the road again" good, very good. I believe that the rover will take his road to McCool Hill, doesn't it? I think it will be back to Home Plate... Ready to rock! -------------------- "Ride, boldly ride," The shade replied, "If you seek for Eldorado!"
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Nov 7 2006, 10:48 AM
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Senior Member Group: Admin Posts: 3108 Joined: 21-December 05 From: Canberra, Australia Member No.: 615 |
When Spirit gets back to Homeplate, I think it will be interesting to see if its new instrument, the RFW-TT (ie: the Right Front Wheel - Trenching Tool) will first of all still allow Spirit to still climb up on top, and secondly to see what it uncovers underneath the top layer of HP material as it gets as it gets dragged up the side and across the top of the formation.
Will it uncover anything new? I call for speculation - as so many UMSF'ers are so good at doing. Astro0 |
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Nov 7 2006, 12:17 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 2920 Joined: 14-February 06 From: Very close to the Pyrénées Mountains (France) Member No.: 682 |
That's a good idea Astro0.
I wonder if the team will actualy use the RFW-TT as a tool. I guess it could be used to move little "flat rocks" to uncover what under looks like; we'll call it RFW-WFR then (With Flat Rock). Doug, we need a "no longer turning weel" in the Smillies About speculation, the easiest to think about will be salt, more salt, much more salt -------------------- |
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Nov 7 2006, 06:19 PM
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Nov 7 2006, 06:25 PM
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Senior Member Group: Moderator Posts: 3431 Joined: 11-August 04 From: USA Member No.: 98 |
I think it will be back to Home Plate... Ready to rock! It's definite; Steve says in Doug's new interview that they will be going back to Home Plate to explore thoroughly, as soon as the power levels are good enough to get off the north-facing slope. He also says the broken wheel means that our girl can't climb mountains anymore, which is too bad. But I'm sure they'll get as much science out of her as possible, and it will be exciting. |
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Nov 7 2006, 08:48 PM
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The Poet Dude Group: Moderator Posts: 5551 Joined: 15-March 04 From: Kendal, Cumbria, UK Member No.: 60 |
ONWARDS, SPIRIT.…
One day – next year… next week… Tomorrow..? – you’ll absently click Your grubby mice and find one of us died, Leaving her sister behind, blissfully unaware She will end her days roving Barsoom’s Lonely ochre plains alone. You’ll check all the usual suspect websites, Refusing to believe that one brutal truth of which Both of us were so aware: Out There nothing Is immortal. Beacon-bright stars, even galaxies die; why Did you convince yourselves a rover could live forever? But you’ll sit there, staring At your flat-screens, flatly denying what you’re seeing With your own wide eyes, crying “You’re lying!” when reading someone’s mis-spelt Post announcing “Now there’s only One – “ It will probably not be me. No, don’t deny it. My faithful friends, this pill cannot Be sugar-coated. Not now, not after 1000 sols Of eating this world’s deadly dust and gulping Down its brittle, cracked-ice air. Each dawn I see is one closer to my last. My sols are short, I know that; These old wheels have only so many Tortured turns left before they seize, Freezing solid in the frail duricrust This frozen-dust covered world calls earth. But be content! I am not spent yet! The climbing Sun is warming me again, and as you read these words The hoarfrost coating my cabled veins thaws! Soon Homeplate’s layered and ragged raws will reappear before your eyes… All I ask is that you walk with me For I am weary, and my ruined wheel feels Heavier every sol: the ascent of Husband Took its toll on me, wounding me More than I knew. I shall not climb again. But I am ready to move on. Too long this rock-strewn ridge has been my home; The stones scattered at the Columbias’ feet call out to me again and I would gaze up at their peaks One more time before I die.. So walk by my side, my friends; walk and talk To me of the sunsets we have shared And maybe I will dare to believe you When you tell me “Your body may die, But your Spirit will live forever…” © Stuart Atkinson 2006 -------------------- |
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Nov 7 2006, 09:49 PM
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Senior Member Group: Admin Posts: 3108 Joined: 21-December 05 From: Canberra, Australia Member No.: 615 |
Stu,
I hope the guys and girls at SPIRIT mission control read your verse. They have stuck with their girl throughout the winter and probably feel as cold as she does. I'm sure that if they read your words they will feel as heart-warmed as I did. Good stuff. Astro0 PS: When is Stu's Book of Martian verse coming out? |
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Nov 7 2006, 10:12 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 2492 Joined: 15-January 05 From: center Italy Member No.: 150 |
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Nov 7 2006, 10:36 PM
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The Poet Dude Group: Moderator Posts: 5551 Joined: 15-March 04 From: Kendal, Cumbria, UK Member No.: 60 |
Stu, I hope the guys and girls at SPIRIT mission control read your verse. Me too! I've tried a few times to find out if any of them have... and if they have seen the pictures artists like you make... but no success. I know Steve S has read a couple of them cos I've sent him them directly, and he said he liked them, but as for a wider audience within JPL, well, no idea... As long as people here like them, I'm happy -------------------- |
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Nov 8 2006, 02:37 AM
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Senior Member Group: Admin Posts: 3108 Joined: 21-December 05 From: Canberra, Australia Member No.: 615 |
"Do the teams and JPL'ers see what we do?"
I'd say that the answer is yes. Just yesterday we had some people from JPL people visiting and they had a Powerpoint presentation which used an image I did of the Canberra DSN station superimposed with Victoria Crater. Apparently, it's been doing the rounds at JPL and was emailed from one person to the next. I'm told the trail leads back to SS. If so, that's cool So Stu, if they saw my piccy, I'm sure that they read your verse as well. Astro0 |
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Nov 8 2006, 03:03 AM
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Merciless Robot Group: Admin Posts: 8784 Joined: 8-December 05 From: Los Angeles Member No.: 602 |
Wonderful, Stu...thank you for giving such a lyrical voice to our collective feelings!
I used to write a little bit of poetry long ago. Apologies in advance; I could never approach Stu's level, but feel inspired to try something: Spirit Comes Home Ruddy beauty in the dusty sunrise marvelous rocks, a crimson layer cake of distant secrets waiting eons for a touch. She comes slowly, painfully now the Spirit of an alien species from a sister world but this aging lady comes in peace, no invader See her reach, and tenderly place her solitary arm against the strata, no longer alone in the vast ocher wilderness now eager to tell its tales to a sympathetic stranger She calls to us across the gulf of trackless space speaking for the voiceless witness of ancient catastrophes and, if accident will, the drama of emerging life cut too short? Listen to her; she is old and wise treasure the gems of her declining years and know that, when what must happen does, she lived for all of us and will live on in us all -------------------- A few will take this knowledge and use this power of a dream realized as a force for change, an impetus for further discovery to make less ancient dreams real.
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Nov 8 2006, 05:27 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 2228 Joined: 1-December 04 From: Marble Falls, Texas, USA Member No.: 116 |
This is fantastic. Not only have we seen the recent movement, but we have heard some insider information from SS himself about future plans. Even if overdue, it was a very well-timed interview, considering recent events at both rovers, and not to mention MRO. I am quite the proverbial "happy camper."
Speaking of Spirit's New Adventure, surely we are all pleased to know HP will be revisited. There is so much there that everyone wants to see. That alone will be quite an adventure. I'll have to confess that I was very pleased to learn that the geological promised land will be next on the agenda. It is sad to note that it took the failed wheel to eliminate the plan to climb McCool, but I just didn't see a lot of value in stuggling to the top of another hill that is likely to display more variants of the rocks seen on the last hill. It will still be difficult with the bad wheel, but it seems a better idea to look for something new and different along a traverse with less elevation change. Those badlands are what I would like to see in more detail, even if they cannot be climbed. One of the things that really amazes me is that these rovers seem to be capable of surprising us more after 1000 sols than they were on sol 1. -------------------- ...Tom
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Nov 8 2006, 08:05 AM
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Founder Group: Chairman Posts: 14432 Joined: 8-February 04 Member No.: 1 |
1000 Sols have come and gone,
Yet memories still linger. Spirit is about to move I hope she pulls out a finger. Doug |
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Nov 8 2006, 09:24 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 2920 Joined: 14-February 06 From: Very close to the Pyrénées Mountains (France) Member No.: 682 |
Was looking for Stu’s verses,
About loved rovers, I hit a key to log, Find a poem from Doug! -------------------- |
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Nov 8 2006, 04:26 PM
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Solar System Cartographer Group: Members Posts: 10164 Joined: 5-April 05 From: Canada Member No.: 227 |
Oppo got stuck in a ripple,
And Spirit turned into a cripple, But the folks at the Lab Got them out of rehab, I think they're deserving a tipple. Anon -------------------- ... because the Solar System ain't gonna map itself.
Also to be found posting similar content on https://mastodon.social/@PhilStooke Maps for download (free PD: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/comm...Cartography.pdf NOTE: everything created by me which I post on UMSF is considered to be in the public domain (NOT CC, public domain) |
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Nov 8 2006, 05:21 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1281 Joined: 18-December 04 From: San Diego, CA Member No.: 124 |
Oh, I don't know - maybe it's the curmudgeon in me, but imagine Spirit being a little cranky after such a long nap. She is the more surly of the two, even according to His Steveness. If I were an old rover with a gimpy wheel and a sibling who seems to get all the luck and headlines, I might have more of a reaction like this from Professor Fate upon being awoken after a nice relaxing break:
risenshn.wav ( 100.8K ) Number of downloads: 664 1000 sols! All in a row! Who knew it was possible? Great poetry work all, especially that Anonymous person. He (or she) sure is prolific. -------------------- Lyford Rome
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Nov 8 2006, 07:41 PM
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Squyres talks here about some "etched terrain" off to the southwest being the next stop after Home Plate and vicinity. Can anyone point out just what he's talking about? Thanks.
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Nov 8 2006, 09:09 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 2920 Joined: 14-February 06 From: Very close to the Pyrénées Mountains (France) Member No.: 682 |
"Do the teams and JPL'ers see what we do?" I'd say that the answer is yes. ................. So Stu, if they saw my piccy, I'm sure that they read your verse as well. Astro0 This is "important" thing to think about. I'm sure all of us, UMSF'ers, would like to contribute in some way to the rovers exploration. I'm sure we do. From Tesheiner's route to James' MMB, from "The Imaging team whose work is published time to time" to Doug's management, from Stu's verse to Shaka humour, etc, etc, etc, (sorry for others) I'm sure all of us contribute to the success of the mission. I guess the reputation, the quality, the dedication of this forum is known inside teh JPL... and other agencies. Stu's get the point when he says that he writes verses for this forum at first but he's proud to know that JPL insiders actualy read it. On another end, I'll be currious to know how they keep an eye on the more scientific part of the forum, mainly the geologic talks. They know by now that some people here are REAL geologists who can understand what they see, can fomulate hypothesis that others will challenge. I cannot imagine that some of "ours" hypothesis have not been considered seriously by Mer's team. Lets face it guys, were' part of the Team. -------------------- |
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Nov 8 2006, 11:17 PM
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The Poet Dude Group: Moderator Posts: 5551 Joined: 15-March 04 From: Kendal, Cumbria, UK Member No.: 60 |
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Nov 9 2006, 12:49 AM
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Squyres talks here about some "etched terrain" off to the southwest being the next stop after Home Plate and vicinity. Can anyone point out just what he's talking about? Thanks. Have a look at this fullsize pic: http://www.msss.com/moc_gallery/r16_r21/im...0/R2001024.html If you scroll down the the image there's a sort of "wrinkly" area (above and to the right of the large crater) I think that is the area he's referring to. |
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Nov 9 2006, 03:45 AM
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Nov 9 2006, 05:23 AM
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Merciless Robot Group: Admin Posts: 8784 Joined: 8-December 05 From: Los Angeles Member No.: 602 |
...drool! Wouldn't it be great if....nah, I can't say it.
Anyhow, I was late for the poetry parody party, so here it be: Dusty discoveries Glorious golf cart Roaming rusty roads Remotely reconning reviled ridges rife with refuse? REJECT! Reprogram Roam reliably, resolutely Seeking solutions subtle Throughout tumultuous terrain Universal, unanimous not Urthbound in the undertaking Victorious across half a world With a wink, the Spirit of humanity proudly declares I am no xenophobe (Why?) -------------------- A few will take this knowledge and use this power of a dream realized as a force for change, an impetus for further discovery to make less ancient dreams real.
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Nov 9 2006, 10:02 AM
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Squyres talks here about some "etched terrain" off to the southwest being the next stop after Home Plate and vicinity. Can anyone point out just what he's talking about? Thanks. Also, I think you can see it in Sol 595 PanCam images taken on top of Husband Hill. http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/all...NP2282L5M1.HTML. http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/all...NP2282R1M1.HTML http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/all...NP2282R7M1.HTML And in the pan released 22nd December 2005 http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/pan...pirit/2005.html You can also see large crater: http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/all...NP2284R2M1.HTML |
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Nov 9 2006, 03:18 PM
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The rippled or winkled terrain to the south seems geologically younger than the plains to me, far fewer craters are visible as compared to the adjacent plains. It also seems collapsed and appears to lie below the level of the plains. I wonder if the loss of whatever caused this surface to collapse (ice?) vented through Home plate?
A poem: There once was a MER from Nantucket Who saw a basalt the size of a bucket She said with a grin, while holding her chin Since my RAT bits are gone, I'll just buff it. -------------------- |
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Nov 9 2006, 03:30 PM
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Senior Member Group: Moderator Posts: 3431 Joined: 11-August 04 From: USA Member No.: 98 |
Anyhow, I was late for the poetry parody party, so here it be: Although I'm enjoying the poetry parody party, I want to chime in and say I found Stu's original poem rather moving... and I'm not usually a big poetry fan. I would definitely buy the book Perhaps there should also be an anthology of MER poetry by various authors... we are certainly collecting enough examples. |
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Nov 9 2006, 06:26 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 252 Joined: 5-May 05 From: Mississippi (USA) Member No.: 379 |
Here is an old flicker gif of the rough terrain.
It think that it brings out the fact that it is either depressed or surrounded by a rim. There definitely appears to be a rim or ridge separating the area from the basin. I hope Spirit is not blocked by that feature. Note I am not geologist, and am just using terms that I am familiar with. File size 500 Kb |
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Nov 9 2006, 06:42 PM
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The Poet Dude Group: Moderator Posts: 5551 Joined: 15-March 04 From: Kendal, Cumbria, UK Member No.: 60 |
I want to chime in and say I found Stu's original poem rather moving... and I'm not usually a big poetry fan. I would definitely buy the book Thanks for that, really appreciate it. I'm now starting to seriously consider the book thing, especially as I have lots of non MER-related poems too... Maybe a MER poetry book with a part 2 of "Misc" after it... maybe some day... -------------------- |
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Nov 9 2006, 07:31 PM
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Merciless Robot Group: Admin Posts: 8784 Joined: 8-December 05 From: Los Angeles Member No.: 602 |
Although I'm enjoying the poetry parody party, I want to chime in and say I found Stu's original poem rather moving... and I'm not usually a big poetry fan. I would definitely buy the book Perhaps there should also be an anthology of MER poetry by various authors... we are certainly collecting enough examples. I agree; Stu is a very talented writer. Surely epochal events like the journey of the MERs require an artist to give history a voice... -------------------- A few will take this knowledge and use this power of a dream realized as a force for change, an impetus for further discovery to make less ancient dreams real.
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Nov 10 2006, 03:52 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 3419 Joined: 9-February 04 From: Minneapolis, MN, USA Member No.: 15 |
There's a couple of rovers on Mars
That drive a lot slower than cars. As they crawl millimeters They aren't world-record beaters -- But their world floats along midst the stars! -the other Doug -------------------- “The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right.” -Mark Twain
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Nov 10 2006, 12:03 PM
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Nov 13 2006, 03:35 AM
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Solar System Cartographer Group: Members Posts: 10164 Joined: 5-April 05 From: Canada Member No.: 227 |
"There's a couple of rovers on Mars..."
You can't beat a good limerick! Except maybe with a bad one... (now I'm trying to make up a bad one) edit - got it! A couple of profs at Cornell, Steve Squyres and young Jimmy Bell, put two rovers together that they drove hell-for-leather with their buddies down at JPL - uh, I got it from my old chum Anon. Phil -------------------- ... because the Solar System ain't gonna map itself.
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Nov 13 2006, 03:51 AM
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Solar System Cartographer Group: Members Posts: 10164 Joined: 5-April 05 From: Canada Member No.: 227 |
... and in a vain effort to redeem myself, here's a polar version of jvandriel's nice new pan. The streaks on Eldorado show up really well.
Phil -------------------- ... because the Solar System ain't gonna map itself.
Also to be found posting similar content on https://mastodon.social/@PhilStooke Maps for download (free PD: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/comm...Cartography.pdf NOTE: everything created by me which I post on UMSF is considered to be in the public domain (NOT CC, public domain) |
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Nov 13 2006, 07:34 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 2492 Joined: 15-January 05 From: center Italy Member No.: 150 |
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Nov 14 2006, 06:35 PM
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Have a look at this fullsize pic: http://www.msss.com/moc_gallery/r16_r21/im...0/R2001024.html If you scroll down the the image there's a sort of "wrinkly" area (above and to the right of the large crater) I think that is the area he's referring to. Thanks for the response - in a brief search, I couldn't find an image that showed that area. |
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Nov 15 2006, 02:04 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1281 Joined: 18-December 04 From: San Diego, CA Member No.: 124 |
OK, this is the Spirit one, a departure from the Victoria inspiration. Not quite right on the mix, but maybe I will tweak it sometime later.
I hope Dr. Squyres doesn't mind being guest vocalist. Moving Again.mp3 I was imagining Spirit waking up to a signal and moving again- and then picturing the front hazcam timelapse movies of the IDD working to the beat. Powerhouse meets Vangelis were the influences, not sure if I succeeded. (Again, admins please move me if this belongs in EVA...) -------------------- Lyford Rome
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Nov 15 2006, 02:23 AM
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Senior Member Group: Admin Posts: 3108 Joined: 21-December 05 From: Canberra, Australia Member No.: 615 |
Lyford, you are a *clink* genius.
Moving Again and Victoria Inspiration are fantastic. I think that a movie idea I have has just found its soundtrack. Astro0 |
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Nov 15 2006, 03:30 AM
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Senior Member Group: Moderator Posts: 3431 Joined: 11-August 04 From: USA Member No.: 98 |
I want the album. Seriously.
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Nov 15 2006, 05:36 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 2228 Joined: 1-December 04 From: Marble Falls, Texas, USA Member No.: 116 |
lyford: I enjoyed the Victoria piece, but I must grab your new sensation on the bigger pipeline, tomorrow.
Thanks for the response - in a brief search, I couldn't find an image that showed that area. I also meant to respond to your question earlier. This is a different, but familiar view of the "Geological Promised Land" from the top of Husband Hill. The first time I heard this name used was by Squyres, in a presentation he made on his book signing tour in Houston. He ascribed its origin to someone else on the team, but I forgot who it was. It has since been mentioned several times in other venues, so one would have to suspect it is an area of interest.It appears to me to be the kind of terrain we would call "badlands" in the western US. Ever since I first saw them I dreamed of visiting them after Home Plate, so I am excited about the possibility of Spirit visiting them. As someone suggested earlier, the intervening ridge could make that difficult. The context image is cropped from a lovely pano that slinted did. -------------------- ...Tom
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Nov 15 2006, 07:02 AM
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Senior Member Group: Moderator Posts: 2262 Joined: 9-February 04 From: Melbourne - Oz Member No.: 16 |
That's awesome Lyford!
This is was I love about this place, there can't be anywhere else on the web where science, engineering, exploration, fiction, poetry, music, images, sfx, comedy... are produced and discussed so effortlessly side by side and all, as one rover PI might put it, at such an impressively high level. James -------------------- |
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Nov 15 2006, 07:04 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 2492 Joined: 15-January 05 From: center Italy Member No.: 150 |
Lyford, you are a *clink* genius. Moving Again and Victoria Inspiration are fantastic. I think that a movie idea I have has just found its soundtrack. Astro0 Agree, I'm without words, it's fantastic! -------------------- I always think before posting! - Marco -
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Nov 15 2006, 07:05 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 2920 Joined: 14-February 06 From: Very close to the Pyrénées Mountains (France) Member No.: 682 |
As someone suggested earlier, the intervening ridge could make that difficult. Can somebody find an exemple of a terrain where Spirit went by that represent the 9° steepness limitation due to the right front weel Steve is speaking about ? -------------------- |
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Nov 15 2006, 08:50 AM
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Special Cookie Group: Members Posts: 2168 Joined: 6-April 05 From: Sintra | Portugal Member No.: 228 |
I was imagining Spirit waking up to a signal and moving again... Great piece of work lyford!!! Looks like UMSF has also awake from a conjuction! Everybody's doing something, giving the best they have...That's just fantastic!!! -------------------- "Ride, boldly ride," The shade replied, "If you seek for Eldorado!"
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Nov 15 2006, 10:06 AM
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Nov 15 2006, 10:37 AM
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I was imagining Spirit waking up to a signal and moving again- ... not sure if I succeeded. (Again, admins please move me if this belongs in EVA...) You absolutely did my friend, you absolutely did. Like many others I'm starting to feel rather humbled by the talent gathered here. We have musicians, geologists, engineers, writers, scientists, map-makers, imagers... Just think about that mix. What does that sound like to you..? Ladies and gentlemen, I think we should declare ourselves the first true martian settlement. Seriously, excellent work lyford, very inspiring. I only hope Steve and the rest of the gang get to hear your music. I so often wonder how much of "our stuff" makes it into JPL and into the hallowed Halls of Power. I mean, I know we don't create these musical pieces, images and poems for them, we do it for ourselves and each other primarily, but it would be such a shame if the pages of UMSF were as far as it all went, what with all the time, love and energy everyone puts into their creations. (And no, I;m not forgetting the stunning achievements of images being featured on APOD and aviation magazine covers; I am SO proud of the members behind those pics!) I don't want to email SS directly and ask him how much of our material he sees/hears etc, that would be a bit crass, but I'm genuinely dying to know. Not for any sense of approval or bragging rights, it would just be nice to know that a) our creativity is being enjoyed by the people whose efforts inspired it, and they realise just how important this mission is to people "Out Here" now. I'd love to think that if we went around some of the MER-related centres and labs that we'd find printouts of images created by dilo, horton, nirgal, jvandriel, ant and our other image mages stuck to walls, people listening to lyford's music on headphones while tapping away on keyboards, and maybe one or two people reading my poems while grabbing a coffee between tasks. That would be kinda nice. -------------------- |
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Lyford, thank U so much, you're a true DJ (Not Doug Jellison, eh )
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Thanks for everyone's kind words - I don't aspire to be the poor man's Gustav Holst, though perhaps the poor man's Tomita doing Gustav Holst.
I may have a few more musical ideas lying around somewhere.... and perhaps some that volcanopele would find more appropriate for inspiration- but that would be another thread. My theory is that during conjunction we were image starved and forced to draw upon inner talents to get by.... the UMSF Cultural Renaissance! (Not to be confused with Mars Renaissance Orbiter...) Now - Back to the Rovers! EDIT - ps - thanks for the link, james! -------------------- Lyford Rome
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... My theory is that during conjunction we were image starved and forced to draw upon inner talents to get by.... the UMSF Cultural Renaissance! (Not to be confused with Mars Renaissance Orbiter...) Well, it is difficult for some of us to get "back to the rovers" with the dearth of images. I did grab your mp3 today, and I must say, it is amazing. Totally unexpected on this end... The remote communication sounds you used at the beginning and the SS quotes you used throughout the piece were so perfect. I have been playing it over and over again all night in the background. That was a genius piece. It definitely made me feel better after checking the usual sources, and finding nothing new tonight. Thank you, so much.
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Well, that wasn't actual telemetry... probably just an AOL dial up connection from one of my sample sets.
Hmmmm.... actual telemetry.... I wonder..... -------------------- Lyford Rome
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QUOTE Stu wrote: Ladies and gentlemen, I think we should declare ourselves the first true martian settlement. Ok where do I sign up? I'm certainly there in Spirit. |
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Another move tomorrosol
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Bit late, Lyford, but like wow...that was both inspiring and hella cool!
The amount of sheer talent amongst the members here is astonishing...thanks for allowing a crusty old Air Force sergeant with few relevant skills to experience it all! -------------------- A few will take this knowledge and use this power of a dream realized as a force for change, an impetus for further discovery to make less ancient dreams real.
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Anyone notice that after the sol 1022 move, we appear to be at a greater tilt than before?
Of course we need to know the orientation of the tilt as well. I always thought it was a bit odd the way they arrived at Low Ridge Haven way back when - they didn't spend much time trying to wiggle into a position with greater tilt. I guess they had enough. |
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[quote name='fredk' date='Nov 19 2006, 06:27 PM' post='75608'I guess they had enough. [/quote]
It was barely enough but I think they were very sure that it actually was enough and there was no point in risking making a mistake that would have put her into a potentially "power negative" situation. |
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Anyone notice that after the sol 1022 move, we appear to be at a greater tilt than before? Yup, according to the rover quaternians on the tracking site (which I'm more confident about, after getting the tilt change right last time ) we are now at 12.55 degrees tilt and angled only 8.5 degrees from north. James -------------------- |
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Another turn to the right, now in position to examine the fine layers. Spirit also caught a cloud above McCool Hill. Animation of last 3 Sols front hazcam (right): -------------------- I always think before posting! - Marco -
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A QTVR of this latest pan by jvandriel
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Great movie Nix.
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You're welcome..I found your pan to be a nice candidate for qtvr. Since I haven't been able to create much myself lately, I can at least have some fun with other people's work
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Since I haven't been able to create much myself lately, I can at least have some fun with other people's work If anyone hasn't done it yet, scroll down to the bottom then just make Spirit spin around and around! You really get the feeling you're hanging in the air above it! Oh. Okay, just me then... Great work Nix, as usual. -------------------- |
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You do the spin too Stu...
It's very easy to do though, I use pano2QTVR gui regularly with contributors' navcam pans and it does the job in a couple of minutes. Nico -------------------- photographer, space imagery enthusiast, proud father and partner, and geek.
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Sol 1025
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Spirit Pancam image that arrived Nov.22.
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-------------------- ... because the Solar System ain't gonna map itself.
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I just discovered there is a tool for web-viewing equirectangular projections that are hosted on Flickr... somebody on my Flickr page actually pointed it out to me a few weeks ago on my Flickr page but I didn't read it until now. Check it out.
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Wow, you talk about well-rounded!
These basalt grains must have been reworked for ages to get so perfect. Even the sands of El Dorado were not so big and beautiful: -------------------- My Grandpa goes to Mars every day and all I get are these lousy T-shirts!
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Are you sure those are just grains? They look like something else to me...more like the Merdiani blueberries, they're encased in another material.
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Kowabunga! If those are blueberries, Sunny, you've got a major scoop, and should sit right down and write a paper!
Personally I'm sceptical. They're much smaller than Meridiani concretions and are held together with a minimum of matrix (sulfates?). I think blueberries need a resonable amount of matrix volume around each one to allow room for growth. Also the RAT brush has revealed them as very smooth, shiny and dark. They look more like obsidian than gray hematite - Dam' I wonder if they could be glass spherules from some lava fountain? Nah! Then we would see some irregular droplet or dumbell shapes as well as spheres. Only massive reworking would get them all so round and uniform in size. Still, they look interesting to me and probably should get a full IDD analysis. Pity we can't grind into them. -------------------- My Grandpa goes to Mars every day and all I get are these lousy T-shirts!
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I'll also point out that a somewhat similar strata over by Home Plate read out to be quite basaltic, in keeping with the chemistry of the plains basalts. I'd like to think otherwise, but I betcha these "berries" turn out to be basaltic in content, as well.
-the other Doug -------------------- “The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right.” -Mark Twain
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Also the RAT brush has revealed them as very smooth, shiny and dark. They look more like obsidian than gray hematite - Dam' I wonder if they could be glass spherules from some lava fountain? Nah! Then we would see some irregular droplet or dumbell shapes as well as spheres. Only massive reworking would get them all so round and uniform in size. I also thought they might be obsidian beads, especially considering the idea that homeplate is a relic from explosive volcanism. But it's strange they'd be so concentrated in one layer, and as you mentioned, shouldn't flying through the air shape them more like drops? Could thin martian air not provide enough friction to make them look like earth's analogues? Good stuff! |
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I think blueberries need a resonable amount of matrix volume around each one to allow room for growth. Also the RAT brush has revealed them as very smooth, shiny and dark. I'm not ready to jump on the berry bandwagon but... if berries, we are not necessarily seeing them in the matrix in which they formed. They could be free berries cemented together. Also, I remember seeing smooth, shiny berries in a trench dug by Opportunity in Eagle crater. |
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Sol 1025 They are there: http://qt.exploratorium.edu/mars/spirit/pa...20P2578L6M1.JPG http://qt.exploratorium.edu/mars/spirit/pa...20P2578R1M1.JPG Thanks, james. of course I couldn't resist this one: |
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I'll also point out that a somewhat similar strata over by Home Plate read out to be quite basaltic, in keeping with the chemistry of the plains basalts. I'd like to think otherwise, but I betcha these "berries" turn out to be basaltic in content, as well. If you are talking about the lower, coarser-grained unit at Home Plate, I completely agree with you. Spirit observed this unit with the MI on sols 747 and 750. -the other Doug http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/all/spirit_m747.html http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/all/spirit_m750.html This new layer seems to show more of the spherules, but I would have to guess this rock is closely related to the unit at the base of HP. The geologic context here is very different from that at Meridiani. The resemblance of these spherules to the berry concretions is only superficial. Coincidentally, SS mentioned the spherules in that lower unit recently in the CEPSAR lecture that DeChengst so kindly made available as an avi file. Shortly after 26:20 he said: "...you can sort of convince yourself that they're reminiscent of lapilli, perhaps." Be sure to note that he said "sort of," and "perhaps." Lapilli, or some lapilli-like clasts would fit better into the geologic context of this environment, which is thought to be energetic...explosive volcanism or explosive impacts, or such. -------------------- ...Tom
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I was waiting for this, Bernhard! -------------------- I always think before posting! - Marco -
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