Victoria and her features, Okay folks, what can we see already - and what will we see when we get |
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Victoria and her features, Okay folks, what can we see already - and what will we see when we get |
 Apr 15 2006, 11:28 AM
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 The Poet Dude  Group: Moderator Posts: 5551 Joined: 15-March 04 From: Kendal, Cumbria, UK Member No.: 60  |
So far images of Victoria - from orbit and from the ground, as Oppy approaches - have been tantalising at best, and frustrating at worst. What does everyone think we've seen so far, and what features do you think we'll see as Oppy approaches and later, when she finally arrives?
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Apr 15 2006, 03:16 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 2998 Joined: 30-October 04 Member No.: 105 |
Good topic, Stu. I'm doing catch-up work after being out of town and am running short on time, so let me start off by posting the three images of Victoria that have been in use for several months.
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Apr 15 2006, 03:30 PM
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Hi Stu,
Thanks for starting a new thread. For what it's worth here is my xeyed Victoria study: http://www.unmannedspaceflight.com/index.p...=50726&st=285&#
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Apr 15 2006, 04:05 PM
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Solar System Cartographer Group: Members Posts: 10153 Joined: 5-April 05 From: Canada Member No.: 227 |
A new image is included in the most recent release:
http://www.msss.com/moc_gallery/s05_s10/im...5/S0500863.html Phil -------------------- ... because the Solar System ain't gonna map itself.
Also to be found posting similar content on https://mastodon.social/@PhilStooke Maps for download (free PD: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/comm...Cartography.pdf NOTE: everything created by me which I post on UMSF is considered to be in the public domain (NOT CC, public domain) |
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Apr 15 2006, 04:11 PM
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 Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 2488 Joined: 17-April 05 From: Glasgow, Scotland, UK Member No.: 239 |
Can anyone locate Opportunity on the image to which Phil posted a link?
Bob Shaw -------------------- Remember: Time Flies like the wind - but Fruit Flies like bananas!
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Apr 15 2006, 04:15 PM
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QUOTE (Bob Shaw @ Apr 15 2006, 04:11 PM)  Can anyone locate Opportunity on the image to which Phil posted a link? She is not visible in that image. She is off to the left of the image. -------------------- "I want to make as many people as possible feel like they are part of this adventure. We are going to give everybody a sense of what exploring the surface of another world is really like"
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Apr 15 2006, 04:31 PM
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QUOTE (Phil Stooke @ Apr 15 2006, 04:05 PM) A new image is included in the most recent release: http://www.msss.com/moc_gallery/s05_s10/im...5/S0500863.html Phil Those dark streaks off the north side of Victoria weren't there before, were they? Maybe that's something worth investigating. |
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Apr 15 2006, 04:37 PM
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Recent edge slip in Victoria?
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Apr 15 2006, 04:41 PM
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QUOTE Those dark streaks off the north side of Victoria weren't there before, were they? Maybe that's something worth investigating. More about this streaks ... - http://www.unmannedspaceflight.com/index.p...topic=1530&st=0 -------------------- - blue_scape / Nico -
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Apr 15 2006, 04:43 PM
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Victoria and her features, ....what will we see when we get there?
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-------------------- If Occam had heard my theory, things would be very different now.
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Apr 15 2006, 04:47 PM
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QUOTE (Bob Shaw @ Apr 15 2006, 06:11 PM) Can anyone locate Opportunity on the image to which Phil posted a link? Bob Shaw Like this? Source image: http://www.msss.com/mars_images/moc/2006/01/24/ (released on Jan 24)
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Apr 15 2006, 05:01 PM
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The Poet Dude Group: Moderator Posts: 5551 Joined: 15-March 04 From: Kendal, Cumbria, UK Member No.: 60 |
Just a bit of fun... know it's not even 5% accurate, just a fantasy "Kodak Moment"
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Apr 15 2006, 05:36 PM
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Hi Stu,
Cruise around the crater edge at 600x using StereoPhotoMaker. Breathtaking.
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Apr 15 2006, 05:41 PM
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All the orbiter images of Victoria lead to the question: Does anyone know if the geometry of these images differs enough that the mapping gurus will be able to derive a photogrammetric Digital Elevation Model of Victoria.
I know there's a DEM of the west half, but only MOLA data for the east half (Pertinax used them both in the discussion of visibility in Victoria on the Horizon). QUOTE (Pertinax @ Mar 31 2006, 11:34 AM) Caution on the MOLA data: Note that Victoria is not particularly well represented in the MOLA data. What we are seeing is one or two MOLA data points from somewhere inside Victoria being interpolated over to the nearist MOLA data points somewhere outside of Victoria (not necesarily from the rim).... -- Pertinax It would be nice to be able to fill in the gaps of the MOLA data across all of Victoria. It seems Promethius answered my question before I even posted it.  There is stereo detail there.
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Apr 15 2006, 05:51 PM
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The Poet Dude Group: Moderator Posts: 5551 Joined: 15-March 04 From: Kendal, Cumbria, UK Member No.: 60 |
Prometheus,
Outstanding image, thanks! "Cruising" around that rim as you suggest proves that there's a lot of modification going on - there are several places where material has slid down into the crater, changing the appearance and profile of the edge. This seems to be a very dynamic place. Might be - as others have pointed out - a dangerous one too. Oppy will have to tread very carefully as she edges around Victoria. -------------------- |
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