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post Feb 8 2019, 02:58 PM
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Some diminutive seems inevitable. According to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosalind_Franklin her family referred to her as "Ros".


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post Feb 8 2019, 05:59 PM
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Indeed - she was not messing around- from that same Wiki Page...

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Raacke asked her how she was to be called and she replied "I'm afraid it will have to be Rosalind", adding "Most definitely not Rosy."
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post Feb 8 2019, 07:07 PM
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The spaceships are Webb, Kepler, Cassini, Galileo, Schiaparelli, and Hubble, not Jimmy, Joe, Gio, Gali, Gio, or Eddie. There is one notable exception to this rule, BepiColombo, which uses the man's full name. I beg of you, please do not perpetuate the disrespect of calling the rover by Franklin's first name. If we intend the name as an honor to her memory, then the rover's name is Franklin or Rosalind Franklin.


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post Feb 8 2019, 08:08 PM
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Only JWST uses the full name of person it's named after.

mcaplinger, the same wikipedia article also says "In the family, she was called "Ros". To others, she was simply 'Rosalind'."

I punt on this issue. The rover's name is Rosalind Franklin. use a text expander or shortcut if you have to.


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post Feb 8 2019, 08:12 PM
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How about RF?
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post Feb 8 2019, 09:04 PM
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I like the name, and it's a nice change and tribute to an underappreciated figure in biology. I wouldn't want to forever stick to abstract concepts and acronyms for spacecraft names.

If character limits are ever at a premium, stick with ExoMars (just like MSL or MRO).
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post Feb 8 2019, 09:48 PM
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The trouble is that a lot of people think of planetary rovers as their little metal friends, requiring an easy informal monniker of some kind, whereas they don't tend to feel that way about space telescopes. It's a difficult requirement to square with respectful commemoration of a scientist, especially one of relatively recent memory.

EDIT: Just to be clear I can see the merits of both. Honouring scientific achievement is a great thing, but so is the fact that ordinary people want to be pals with the robots who are their eyes on other worlds.
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post Feb 10 2019, 09:47 AM
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FYI, an abbreviation is a shortening of a longer word or phrase. A diminutive is a term that implies the smallness or an attitude of intimacy towards the referent. (E.g., "Bill" is an abbreviation of "William" while "Billy" is a diminutive.) Abbreviating Rosalind Franklin is apt to imply a diminutive.

In life, Rosalind Franklin was diminished by the theft of her work. In this new life for her name, I'll call the rover Rosalind Franklin. That has the same number of syllables as "phyllosilicates" and "Meridiani" and four fewer than "en-gee-cee thirty eight forty two" or "unknown ultraviolet absorber." It won't injure anyone's jaw to say it, and the extra half second can be used to remember how many women in science have had their perceived importance subtracted along with their names.
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Just in case anybody missed it, Rosalind Franklin's Russian space uber also got a name as well – Kazachok!

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The trouble is that a lot of people think of planetary rovers as their little metal friends, requiring an easy informal monniker of some kind, whereas they don't tend to feel that way about space telescopes.

I honestly felt that way about Kepler to an unhealthy point that I often forgot about the actual Johannes Kepler... unsure.gif


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