Juno development, launch, and cruise, Including Earth flyby imaging Oct 9 2013 |
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Juno development, launch, and cruise, Including Earth flyby imaging Oct 9 2013 |
 Jul 26 2011, 07:41 PM
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QUOTE (djellison @ Jul 26 2011, 07:34 PM)  What is there to be excited about right now? Last preparation for launch is not fascinating ? -------------------- Free software for planetary science (including Cassini Image Viewer).
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Jul 26 2011, 07:48 PM
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QUOTE (peter59 @ Jul 26 2011, 11:41 AM) Last preparation for launch is not fascinating ? For the general public? Not really. For most space enthusiasts...there really isn't much to talk about. People are not excited because it's not exciting. One defines the other |
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Jul 26 2011, 08:05 PM
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QUOTE (peter59 @ Jul 26 2011, 07:54 PM) Amazing how low is interest in the Juno mission. People want pretty pictures. |
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Jul 26 2011, 08:12 PM
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If it were planning a survey of the satellites, like Cassini and (in a better world) Galileo, I'd be plenty excited. Particles & fields and distant images of clouds on Jupiter is something I'm having trouble getting excited about. That being said, I'm perfectly happy the let the particles & fields folks have this one to themselves, as I suppose it's their turn -- and I'm sure they'll learn something interesting & valuable. The mission I'd get really excited about would be a Europa orbiter or rover.
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Jul 26 2011, 08:43 PM
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QUOTE (jasedm @ Jul 26 2011, 10:05 PM) People want pretty pictures. ...and thats not what they will get a lot from this mission. -------------------- The scientist does not study nature because it is useful; he studies it because he delights in it, and he delights in it because it is beautiful.
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Jul 26 2011, 09:14 PM
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QUOTE (Toma B @ Jul 26 2011, 12:43 PM) ...and thats not what they will get a lot from this mission. You'll be surprised. -------------------- If Occam had heard my theory, things would be very different now.
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Jul 26 2011, 10:05 PM
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I may be alone in this (on this forum, no doubt the Juno science team agree) but I'm really stoked about the non-imaging bias of Juno. I like pictures, and they do convey a sense of immediacy, but imaging is only one way of collecting data, and not a particularly useful one for many scientific objectives.
Here's hoping that there's plenty of weird data gathered that changes how we understand Gas Giants and solar system dynamics. And there will be plenty of Junocam images in any case for those who find that boring. |
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Jul 27 2011, 12:37 AM
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If NASA collected names to fly on this mission a la Cassini and the Mars rovers, then I'd be excited. Of course, the microchip or CD bearing the names would probably be erased by the radiation not too long after Juno enters Jovian orbit. (I'm into space exploration for all the wrong reasons
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Jul 27 2011, 03:17 AM
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For whatever reason, the Juno team doesn't seem to have done much outreach. Their web site http://juno.wisc.edu/index_whatsnew.html hasn't been updated in three years.
--Greg |
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Jul 27 2011, 03:22 AM
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Yeah, that's something I noticed recently too. Apparently the reason that that site hasn't been taken down is "it's complicated." Anyway, the place to go for current Juno mission news and educational information is http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/juno/main/index.html
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Jul 27 2011, 03:35 AM
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There is http://missionjuno.swri.edu/
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Jul 27 2011, 06:16 AM
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I suppose it's too early to think about potential asteroid flybys? Or has that been ruled out already?
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Jul 27 2011, 06:36 AM
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They never mentioned any, as far as I know.
Juno will be in the main belt twice, both before and after the Earth flyby, so that doubles the chance of an encounter. |
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Jul 27 2011, 07:50 AM
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With a tight budget, it would be tough to plan and execute an encounter. E.g., you'd have to develop instrument sequences, increase DSN allocation, temporarily increase operations staff, etc.
Juno instruments are mostly for fields and non-imaging data which are not optimum for a solid body encounter so science return is low compared to a spacecraft such as Dawn. |
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Jul 27 2011, 10:08 AM
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QUOTE (peter59 @ Jul 26 2011, 09:41 PM) Last preparation for launch is not fascinating ? No, it isn't. It's horror and it's time full of fear from failure. After successful launch, then it's fascinating. QUOTE (helvick @ Jul 27 2011, 12:05 AM) I may be alone in this (on this forum, no doubt the Juno science team agree) but I'm really stoked about the non-imaging bias of Juno. I like pictures, and they do convey a sense of immediacy, but imaging is only one way of collecting data, and not a particularly useful one for many scientific objectives. No, you are not. Juno is capable of probing Jupiter's atmosphere hundreds of bars deep (it's significantly more, than Galileo's probe could) and she can reveal fine structure of Jupiter's interior. This is really amazing! mchan: I don't think they (Juno team) are planning asteroid encounter, but Juno is theoretically capable of imaging (Junocam, JIRAM), probably mapping surface of asteroid (with JIRAM) and she can find mass of asteroid (RSS). It is more, than NEAR did in Mathilde flyby (only imaging and mass measurements). Question is, if Juno can successfully track such small and fast target. Some irregular moon of Jupiter would be another interesting target. -------------------- |
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