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Nh - The Launch Thread, Godspeed little one
djellison
post Jan 16 2006, 03:08 PM
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I thought it was time, with the Atlas V about to roll out - for a new thread for NH for the launch etc.

Someone asked over at the HZ just how NH can go so fast, this was my reply....

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How do you get a spacecraft to Jupiter in under a year? Easy. Make it very very light, and put it on a very very big rocket. The config of Atlas V rocket being used to launch NH (551 - 5m fairing, 5 solids, and one engine on the Centaur stage ) would typically put 8,670kg into GTO or 20,520 into LEO.
New Horizons is 478kg, and it's Star 48B 3rd stage is 2,137kg - so instead of hauling 20 tons, this vehicle is hauling about 2.5 tons thus you get a HUGE velocity out of it. AND, once it's done that, you have the final kick of the 48B, 591 thousand kgs-s (thus accelerating is all a further 3.5 - 4km/s ball park speed, if my maths is right)
At launch - the vehicle is 573,160kg. NH is 0.083% of it.
Imagine the Apollo entry capsule on top of a Saturn V...tiny tiny tiny... that was 5,800 kg on a 3,038,500kg rocket - 0.191% - more than double that percentage of NH. The cutaway's are almost comical, with this tiny gold-clad box on an enormous vehicle.
Basically - it's a LOT of rocket, and not a lot of payload.
For comparison, look how much fuss was made of Stardust that entered so quickly. It took >16 hrs to get from the distance of the moon to Utah. NH makes that journey in 9 hours smile.gif
One thing the NH mission is not short of, is superlatives.


I'm not one for good luck charms (although I'll eat peanuts during a Martian EDL with the best of them), but this mission has been so long in coming, that it deserves every ounce of luck it can have - the best, most accurate launch possible, the cleanest checkout, and incident free cruise to Jupiter.

Goodluck and Godspeed little one, we're with you every step of the way.

Doug
PS - Alan, you're a credit to your field, spending so much time answering questions and writing the PI Perspectives, it's been a hell of a journey!
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- djellison   Nh - The Launch Thread   Jan 16 2006, 03:08 PM
- - Ames   Time now 20:20Z T -4Min and counting   Jan 17 2006, 08:19 PM
|- - Bjorn Jonsson   I'm getting nervous, this is exciting...   Jan 17 2006, 08:21 PM
|- - Bjorn Jonsson   ARRRGGHHHH !!! Scrub   Jan 17 2006, 08:21 PM
- - dvandorn   No - go, redline monitor fault, scrub for today. ...   Jan 17 2006, 08:20 PM
- - Ames   Time Now 20:21 t-3Min and counting NH is GOGOGOG...   Jan 17 2006, 08:21 PM
|- - helvick   Ah #$%^!!~ Oh well.   Jan 17 2006, 08:21 PM
- - jamescanvin   Crap! I don't know how many more mornings...   Jan 17 2006, 08:21 PM
- - dvandorn   OK, what's the launch window for tomorrow? I ...   Jan 17 2006, 08:21 PM
|- - mchan   QUOTE (dvandorn @ Jan 17 2006, 12:21 PM)OK, w...   Jan 17 2006, 08:24 PM
|- - YesRushGen   QUOTE (dvandorn @ Jan 17 2006, 03:21 PM)OK, w...   Jan 17 2006, 08:24 PM
|- - dilo   QUOTE (YesRushGen @ Jan 17 2006, 08:24 PM)Hey...   Jan 17 2006, 08:45 PM
|- - ugordan   QUOTE (dilo @ Jan 17 2006, 09:45 PM)What is n...   Jan 17 2006, 09:15 PM
||- - yg1968   The chance of the weather srubbing the launch on W...   Jan 17 2006, 09:25 PM
|- - alan   QUOTE (dilo @ Jan 17 2006, 02:45 PM)Looking t...   Jan 18 2006, 02:01 AM
|- - dvandorn   QUOTE (alan @ Jan 17 2006, 08:01 PM)I think t...   Jan 18 2006, 04:02 AM
|- - dilo   QUOTE (dvandorn @ Jan 18 2006, 04:02 AM)But i...   Jan 18 2006, 04:18 AM
|- - ljk4-1   The US of A wasn't the only space-faring natio...   Jan 18 2006, 01:12 PM
- - Jeff7   Dammit   Jan 17 2006, 08:22 PM
- - Toma B   Abbort!!!   Jan 17 2006, 08:22 PM
- - PhilCo126   Although we did our best to reach page 14 ... a re...   Jan 17 2006, 08:22 PM
- - odave   I think I just learned that I don't have the t...   Jan 17 2006, 08:25 PM
|- - dvandorn   QUOTE (odave @ Jan 17 2006, 02:25 PM)I think ...   Jan 18 2006, 03:56 AM
- - Redstone   Welcome to the space business... We still have ...   Jan 17 2006, 08:25 PM
- - jamescanvin   8 minutes earlier! oh well, who needs sleep...   Jan 17 2006, 08:29 PM
- - DEChengst   Any info on the weather forecast for tomorrow ?   Jan 17 2006, 08:30 PM
|- - mchan   QUOTE (DEChengst @ Jan 17 2006, 12:30 PM)Any ...   Jan 17 2006, 08:36 PM
|- - ljk4-1   QUOTE (mchan @ Jan 17 2006, 03:36 PM)The late...   Jan 17 2006, 08:41 PM
|- - punkboi   QUOTE (mchan @ Jan 17 2006, 01:36 PM)The late...   Jan 18 2006, 01:07 AM
- - Toma B   I HATE WINDS!!! The constraint that vi...   Jan 17 2006, 08:33 PM
- - Ames   SCRUB! Johns Hopkins Applied Physics Labora...   Jan 18 2006, 03:06 PM
- - Toma B   So what happened now?...did they forget to pay ele...   Jan 18 2006, 03:35 PM
|- - ljk4-1   QUOTE (Toma B @ Jan 18 2006, 10:35 AM)So what...   Jan 18 2006, 03:38 PM
|- - dvandorn   QUOTE (Toma B @ Jan 18 2006, 09:35 AM)So what...   Jan 18 2006, 04:25 PM
||- - ljk4-1   QUOTE (dvandorn @ Jan 18 2006, 11:25 AM)There...   Jan 18 2006, 06:03 PM
|- - lyford   QUOTE (Toma B @ Jan 18 2006, 07:35 AM)So what...   Jan 18 2006, 04:40 PM
|- - punkboi   Bah! Darn the East Coast for its crappy, powe...   Jan 18 2006, 05:19 PM
- - Sunspot   Hmmm ... this isnt looking good for NH, how long d...   Jan 18 2006, 03:36 PM
|- - odave   QUOTE (Sunspot @ Jan 18 2006, 10:36 AM)Hmmm ....   Jan 18 2006, 03:59 PM
- - elakdawalla   They'll get the Jupiter gravity assist if they...   Jan 18 2006, 04:04 PM
|- - dvandorn   QUOTE (elakdawalla @ Jan 18 2006, 10:04 AM)Th...   Jan 18 2006, 04:30 PM
- - dvandorn   Ooops -- it suddenly occurs to me that he might ha...   Jan 18 2006, 04:37 PM
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|- - mchan   QUOTE (Bill Harris @ Jan 18 2006, 09:08 AM)Wh...   Jan 18 2006, 06:17 PM
- - PhilCo126   Well let's not discuss the power systems (e.g....   Jan 18 2006, 05:56 PM
|- - punkboi   QUOTE (PhilCo126 @ Jan 18 2006, 10:56 AM)Well...   Jan 18 2006, 06:20 PM
- - dvandorn   Easy for you to say -- as of right now, assuming N...   Jan 18 2006, 06:11 PM
|- - ljk4-1   QUOTE (dvandorn @ Jan 18 2006, 01:11 PM)Easy ...   Jan 18 2006, 06:17 PM
|- - gpurcell   QUOTE (dvandorn @ Jan 18 2006, 06:11 PM)Easy ...   Jan 18 2006, 06:42 PM
|- - ljk4-1   Got this from Larry Kellog's Lunar Update list...   Jan 18 2006, 07:15 PM
|- - AlexBlackwell   QUOTE (ljk4-1 @ Jan 18 2006, 07:15 PM)I ...   Jan 18 2006, 07:21 PM
|- - Toma B   QUOTE (ljk4-1 @ Jan 18 2006, 10:15 PM)I ...   Jan 18 2006, 08:09 PM
||- - dvandorn   QUOTE (Toma B @ Jan 18 2006, 02:09 PM)Yesterd...   Jan 19 2006, 06:08 AM
|- - DEChengst   QUOTE (ljk4-1 @ Jan 18 2006, 08:15 PM)I ...   Jan 18 2006, 09:03 PM
|- - ljk4-1   QUOTE (DEChengst @ Jan 18 2006, 04:03 PM)That...   Jan 18 2006, 10:22 PM
|- - AlexBlackwell   QUOTE (ljk4-1 @ Jan 18 2006, 10:22 PM)Ma...   Jan 18 2006, 10:32 PM
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|- - jamescanvin   QUOTE (BPCooper @ Jan 19 2006, 10:46 AM)Well ...   Jan 19 2006, 12:05 AM
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|- - ljk4-1   QUOTE (dvandorn @ Jan 18 2006, 01:20 PM)I can...   Jan 18 2006, 06:32 PM
- - um3k   If New Horizons makes it to Pluto in 2015, I'l...   Jan 18 2006, 06:39 PM
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- - Steffen   That CNN reporter even lobbyed to fly on a space s...   Jan 19 2006, 10:33 AM
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- - djellison   Oh, I intend to record tonight as well. It's s...   Jan 19 2006, 10:53 AM
- - PhilCo126   Some replies: 1. Toma B, Yaohua200 might be right...   Jan 19 2006, 11:58 AM
|- - yaohua2000   QUOTE (PhilCo126 @ Jan 19 2006, 11:58 AM)Yaoh...   Jan 19 2006, 02:46 PM
- - Ames   Launch NOT on rocket cam schedule. http://www.ecl...   Jan 19 2006, 12:10 PM
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- - RNeuhaus   THURSDAY, JANUARY 19, 2006 1220 GMT (7:20 a.m. EST...   Jan 19 2006, 02:15 PM
|- - ugordan   QUOTE (RNeuhaus @ Jan 19 2006, 03:15 PM)It is...   Jan 19 2006, 02:19 PM
- - PhilCo126   Sorry "Yaohua2000" ... Thanks to "A...   Jan 19 2006, 02:51 PM
- - djellison   A bit of maths for a laugh MRO's Atlas V ( a ...   Jan 19 2006, 02:57 PM
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|- - Toma B   QUOTE (Ames @ Jan 19 2006, 06:09 PM)Think I r...   Jan 19 2006, 03:15 PM
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|- - Ames   QUOTE (Toma B @ Jan 19 2006, 05:01 PM)Yes the...   Jan 19 2006, 04:03 PM
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||- - punkboi   QUOTE (yaohua2000 @ Jan 19 2006, 09:11 AM)not...   Jan 19 2006, 04:24 PM
|- - RNeuhaus   QUOTE (odave @ Jan 19 2006, 11:09 AM)From Spa...   Jan 19 2006, 04:30 PM
- - djellison   It could be anything, active satellites, debris, u...   Jan 19 2006, 04:49 PM
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