ispace (Hakuto-R) Mission 1, Japanese private lunar mission |
ispace (Hakuto-R) Mission 1, Japanese private lunar mission |
Apr 25 2023, 04:36 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1453 Joined: 26-July 08 Member No.: 4270 |
They just showed a couple videos - one looking down at the surface during orbit and another looking at Earth over the lunar limb. Both taken before, rather than live.
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Apr 25 2023, 04:40 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1453 Joined: 26-July 08 Member No.: 4270 |
1 km to go.
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Apr 25 2023, 04:43 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 2113 Joined: 13-February 10 From: Ontario Member No.: 5221 |
Live updates cut out at around .18 km, 54 km/h (went to simulation right after that). Now waiting for any telemetry.
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Apr 25 2023, 04:43 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1453 Joined: 26-July 08 Member No.: 4270 |
We're supposed to have landed a minute or so ago, awaiting confirmation... but it's taking a while.
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Apr 25 2023, 04:48 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1453 Joined: 26-July 08 Member No.: 4270 |
A number of concerned expressions in the mission control room before cutting to a commercial break.
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Apr 25 2023, 04:49 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 292 Joined: 29-December 05 From: Ottawa, ON Member No.: 624 |
My wife and I were watching it and you could see it coming down really fast compared to the rapidly decreasing altitude. Fingers crossed.
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Apr 25 2023, 04:51 PM
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Landing on the Moon is hard.
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Apr 25 2023, 04:56 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 2113 Joined: 13-February 10 From: Ontario Member No.: 5221 |
Just like India and Israel, everything fine until the last minute....
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Apr 25 2023, 04:57 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 402 Joined: 5-January 07 From: Manchester England Member No.: 1563 |
I'm keeping everything crossed. The last confirmed velocity was 54km / hour, which is about 15 meters / second. How much chance there still was to get that down from the 0.18 km altitude depends on the angle of attack - but it must have all played out fast.
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Apr 25 2023, 05:04 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 149 Joined: 18-June 08 Member No.: 4216 |
Some commentary on spaceflightnow.com here
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Apr 25 2023, 05:09 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 2113 Joined: 13-February 10 From: Ontario Member No.: 5221 |
Missions 2 and 3 will continue, they say. Important lessons will be learned!
Regardless, LRO will tell soon enough. |
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Apr 25 2023, 05:11 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 129 Joined: 20-April 05 Member No.: 291 |
Update from mission control. The engineers look really depressed on the +25 minute status update from the Mission Controllers, and acknowledge it may be a failure. They will have at least 2 future missions, and they will use the telemetry they received until its last few seconds of flight to improve their processes.
-- Judging by the last few images of telemetry, its looking likely that it was a hard landing at higher than expected speeds. We may not know its status until an orbiter can take an image of the landing site. I'm guessing mostly intact, but that impacting the surface at near 25 mph/40 kph was too much for the craft to function. |
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Apr 25 2023, 05:15 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 402 Joined: 5-January 07 From: Manchester England Member No.: 1563 |
On the spacenews feed it mentions that, tentatively, at 90 meters the lander was dropping at 33 km/ hour. The previous numbers were 54km/hour at 180 meters altitude. OK... this is little better than reading entrail I realise, but if, for the sake of argument, we take these as more-or-less accurate the lander would have reached 0 meters with a velocity of just under 2 meters/sec.
This makes no account of whether the numbers are just vertical drop rate or overall velocity, or angle of descent. I just wanted to illustrate that they ispace team may not have been too far off the mark with their landing. -------------------- |
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Apr 25 2023, 05:23 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 402 Joined: 5-January 07 From: Manchester England Member No.: 1563 |
QUOTE "We have to assume that we could not complete the landing on the lunar surface," says Takeshi Hakamada, founder & CEO of ispace. Ground teams had data from the lander during its descent, but lost the signal before landing. "We will keep going," he said. From the spacenews feed. -------------------- |
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Apr 25 2023, 05:50 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 100 Joined: 30-November 05 From: Antibes, France Member No.: 594 |
Great emotional moments !
The third time I watched a landing attempt on the Moon. I had watched the landing attempt of the indian probe Chandrayaan-2 and the landing attempt of the israeli probe Beresheet and each time a crash ! The deceleration of the probe at the end of the vertical descent is impressive. The error margin seems very limited for the acceptable speed at the end of the descent process. Thanks to iSpace for the great presentation ! |
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