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InSight Surface Operations, 26 Nov 2018-
Steve G
post Jun 23 2019, 11:06 PM
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Was this expected or is this a bad thing?
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post Jun 24 2019, 12:08 AM
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QUOTE (Steve G @ Jun 24 2019, 07:06 AM) *
Was this expected or is this a bad thing?

It was planned, albeit 1 day later than planned. They also planned further lifts to carefully raise the housing off the probe. The mole appears to be tilted, roughly from east to west with what maybe a void around the probe. It also looks to a be little further in the ground than they expected. There is a few days before the next lift details
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post Jun 24 2019, 02:24 AM
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QUOTE (PaulH51 @ Jun 24 2019, 01:08 AM) *
It was planned, albeit 1 day later than planned. They also planned further lifts to carefully raise the housing off the probe. The mole appears to be tilted, roughly from east to west with what maybe a void around the probe. It also looks to a be little further in the ground than they expected. There is a few days before the next lift details


The mole must have unluckily hit a rock right as it was going down. sad.gif.
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post Jun 24 2019, 07:05 AM
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This is what I expected would happen. The mole was trying to get around an obstruction, but couldn't because it was still partly in the delivery tube and couldn't tilt. Bad luck.
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post Jun 24 2019, 03:04 PM
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Well, the good news is that the mole appears to be at roughly the depth and tilt that was predicted (see this news release). But as others have pointed out, it looks like there's an open cavity around the mole, as this pic shows best:
https://mars.nasa.gov/insight-raw-images/su...0000_0827M_.PNG
As they've stressed, that means the mole doesn't get the friction it needs to burrow, so just bounces. The question now is: can they pack the soil tightly around the mole with the scoop to restore the friction?
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post Jun 24 2019, 09:37 PM
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Here's a quick GIF (4fps) of the action sol203-204 from the ICC
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post Jun 25 2019, 01:24 AM
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Hopefully they can pack the soil down with the scoop and re-start hammering.
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post Jun 26 2019, 10:51 PM
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Looks like a perfect lift to 25cm (as planned), if the plan remains unchanged...
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on 28 June the structure should be completely lifted and moved about 10 centimetres towards the lander.

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ICC image from sol 206 (post-lift)
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post Jun 26 2019, 11:49 PM
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Insight images now available from the PDS:

https://pds-imaging.jpl.nasa.gov/data/nsyt/insight_cameras/

A quick look can be had in the browse directory. Sol 14 data include panorama files. I have not yet found later updates to the panorama.

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The DLR HP3 blog from Tilman Spohn has been updated (June 28, 2019) recording recent observations following the progressive lifts on the HP3 housing. Part three of the lift where the housing will be placed closer to the lander is now scheduled for Saturday, followed by grapple release / stowing.

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It is a bit premature to firmly talk about the next steps after part three... ...But the discussion so far centers around filling the pit and then proceeding with the pushes on the regolith that I have described in my previous post.


Full DLR blog
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Latest NASA article from July1 has GIFs from both cameras
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Sol 223: The grapple has released the HP3 housing, next planned step is to stow the grapple to permit a closer inspection of the pit around the mole. Operation #savethemole continues smile.gif
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