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CosmicRocker
post Aug 16 2012, 11:05 PM
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I'm still trying to figure out a number of things about the new images we are trying to work with. Assuming others are likewise trying to learn, I thought I would open this thread to create a place for such discussions.

I'd like to start out with a comment about raw image contrast. There have been several postings in the main threads about whether or not the MSL raw images have been stretched like those from the MER missions. I am certainly no expert on this, but it looks to me as if the MSL images have not been stretched at all. I haven't tried to analyze all of the image types, but the hazcams and navcams have pixel brightness histograms that are very different from their MER counterparts.

This attached image compares MER and MSL navcams along with their luminosity histograms.
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The MSL images clearly are not using the entire, available range of brightness values, whereas the MER raws do. For this reason, the MSL raw images can usually be nicely enhanced by simply stretching the distribution of brightness across the full 256 value range.


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- CosmicRocker   MSL Images & Cameras   Aug 16 2012, 11:05 PM
- - vikingmars   Martian sky color palette (10° above horizon). Enj...   Oct 19 2012, 09:33 AM
- - Zeke4ther   Found an interesting article on Slashdot on how Na...   Oct 22 2012, 08:30 PM
- - jmknapp   Curious thing about this MAHLI image: http://mars...   Oct 23 2012, 10:22 AM
|- - mcaplinger   QUOTE (jmknapp @ Oct 23 2012, 03:22 AM) Y...   Oct 23 2012, 01:11 PM
|- - Paul Fjeld   QUOTE (jmknapp @ Oct 23 2012, 06:22 AM) C...   Oct 23 2012, 02:47 PM
- - ronald   I would think this is the auto-exposure doing its ...   Oct 23 2012, 11:24 AM
- - vikingmars   Dust on the color calibration target on Sol 72... ...   Oct 23 2012, 12:45 PM
- - Greenish   Looks like a bunch of full-res narrowband filtered...   Oct 23 2012, 01:47 PM
- - Deimos   The MAHLI image doesn't really look LED-illumi...   Oct 23 2012, 02:19 PM
|- - jmknapp   QUOTE (Deimos @ Oct 23 2012, 09:19 AM) th...   Oct 23 2012, 03:25 PM
- - fredk   A time error of around an hour would be a serious ...   Oct 23 2012, 03:03 PM
|- - Bjorn Jonsson   QUOTE (fredk @ Oct 23 2012, 03:03 PM) Oth...   Oct 24 2012, 04:42 PM
- - ronald   Maybe because the sun is more "pointy" a...   Oct 23 2012, 05:55 PM
|- - fredk   QUOTE (ronald @ Oct 23 2012, 05:55 PM) Ma...   Oct 23 2012, 06:11 PM
- - Deimos   If you back up to see all of the imaging done that...   Oct 24 2012, 02:03 AM
- - jmknapp   Thanks Deimos--that helps to interpret the time st...   Oct 24 2012, 02:14 PM
- - elakdawalla   Ah -- it never occurred to me that the Z-stacks wo...   Oct 24 2012, 03:50 PM
- - Ant103   QUOTE (Bjorn Jonsson @ Oct 24 2012, 06:42...   Oct 24 2012, 05:41 PM
|- - vikingmars   QUOTE (Ant103 @ Oct 24 2012, 07:41 PM) Ag...   Oct 24 2012, 07:27 PM
|- - mcaplinger   QUOTE (vikingmars @ Oct 24 2012, 12:27 PM...   Oct 24 2012, 07:40 PM
|- - vikingmars   QUOTE (mcaplinger @ Oct 24 2012, 09:40 PM...   Oct 24 2012, 07:55 PM
||- - mcaplinger   QUOTE (vikingmars @ Oct 24 2012, 12:55 PM...   Oct 24 2012, 08:02 PM
||- - vikingmars   QUOTE (mcaplinger @ Oct 24 2012, 10:02 PM...   Oct 24 2012, 08:17 PM
|- - elakdawalla   QUOTE (mcaplinger @ Oct 24 2012, 12:40 PM...   Oct 24 2012, 09:49 PM
- - Explorer1   Oh yes, that reminds me; we still haven't seen...   Oct 24 2012, 09:56 PM
- - Deimos   On sky images: almost there. A few approvals are n...   Oct 25 2012, 01:55 AM
- - fredk   On the plus side, mastcam100 has a 10 mm aperture ...   Oct 25 2012, 02:50 AM
- - jmknapp   In the recent telecon they showed a raw mastcam im...   Oct 31 2012, 11:46 PM
|- - mcaplinger   QUOTE (jmknapp @ Oct 31 2012, 04:46 PM) I...   Nov 1 2012, 12:06 AM
- - maschnitz   Whoever produced this image. It was listed under ...   Nov 1 2012, 12:14 AM
|- - mcaplinger   QUOTE (maschnitz @ Oct 31 2012, 05:14 PM)...   Nov 1 2012, 12:38 AM
- - jmknapp   This is what David Vaniman said at the telecon: ...   Nov 1 2012, 02:10 AM
|- - mcaplinger   QUOTE (jmknapp @ Oct 31 2012, 07:10 PM) T...   Nov 1 2012, 02:49 AM
- - jmknapp   OK, put it this way--do you think there could in p...   Nov 1 2012, 03:13 AM
|- - mcaplinger   QUOTE (jmknapp @ Oct 31 2012, 08:13 PM) d...   Nov 1 2012, 03:55 AM
- - ronald   My first though when I heard that "like in yo...   Nov 1 2012, 10:27 AM
- - jmknapp   Auto-color is not really that similar to what was ...   Nov 1 2012, 10:39 AM
- - ronald   Reminds me of a job where we should color the back...   Nov 1 2012, 11:11 AM
- - fredk   There's a series of daytime sky images from ma...   Nov 3 2012, 03:25 PM
- - Astro0   Ed, that's great. Took about 3-4 seconds on my...   Nov 4 2012, 06:34 AM
- - Zelenyikot   I noticed that the "schmutz" on the Mast...   Nov 6 2012, 10:48 PM
|- - mcaplinger   QUOTE (Zelenyikot @ Nov 6 2012, 03:48 PM)...   Nov 6 2012, 11:23 PM
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|- - Greenish   ronald, I did initially make them as straight comp...   Nov 9 2012, 09:38 PM
- - Zelenyikot   Somebody can explain to me for what purpose photog...   Nov 17 2012, 03:05 AM
|- - mcaplinger   QUOTE (Zelenyikot @ Nov 16 2012, 08:05 PM...   Nov 17 2012, 06:24 AM
- - Zelenyikot   It seems to me this orange it is L3 L4 is red U...   Nov 18 2012, 12:32 AM
|- - mcaplinger   QUOTE (Zelenyikot @ Nov 17 2012, 05:32 PM...   Nov 18 2012, 01:14 AM
|- - Zelenyikot   Thanks for an explanation.   Nov 18 2012, 01:43 AM
|- - Airbag   Argh, so many beautiful panoramas yet still I see ...   Nov 26 2012, 08:02 PM
|- - RoverDriver   QUOTE (Airbag @ Nov 26 2012, 12:02 PM) Ar...   Nov 26 2012, 10:20 PM
- - ronald   Great Airbag - Thankyou! Its allways nice if y...   Nov 26 2012, 09:20 PM
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|- - mcaplinger   QUOTE (ronald @ Nov 29 2012, 04:56 AM) Th...   Nov 29 2012, 03:33 PM
- - Ant103   Come on ! This is just nothing than a differen...   Nov 29 2012, 12:46 PM
- - ronald   - I'm simply still not sure how bright the sur...   Nov 29 2012, 01:56 PM
- - ronald   Doing it the scientific way is far beyond my techn...   Nov 29 2012, 10:01 PM
|- - djellison   QUOTE (ronald @ Nov 29 2012, 02:01 PM) Th...   Nov 29 2012, 10:10 PM
|- - mcaplinger   QUOTE (ronald @ Nov 29 2012, 03:01 PM) I ...   Nov 29 2012, 10:19 PM
|- - djellison   QUOTE (mcaplinger @ Nov 29 2012, 02:19 PM...   Nov 29 2012, 10:25 PM
||- - vikingmars   QUOTE (djellison @ Nov 29 2012, 11:25 PM)...   Nov 29 2012, 10:58 PM
|- - ronald   QUOTE (mcaplinger @ Nov 29 2012, 11:19 PM...   Nov 30 2012, 10:53 AM
- - djellison   Yeah - the same words were used by Maki et.al. in ...   Nov 29 2012, 11:40 PM
- - iMPREPREX   Can someone please explain to me how to decipher t...   Jan 5 2013, 11:30 PM
|- - jamescanvin   QUOTE (iMPREPREX @ Jan 5 2013, 11:30 PM) ...   Jan 7 2013, 08:44 AM
- - Astro0   ADMIN NOTE: Apologies. I was moving two members pa...   Jan 7 2013, 11:39 AM
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|- - mcaplinger   QUOTE (wildespace @ Jan 15 2013, 10:29 AM...   Jan 15 2013, 06:46 PM
||- - wildespace   QUOTE (mcaplinger @ Jan 15 2013, 06:46 PM...   Jan 15 2013, 07:37 PM
||- - mcaplinger   QUOTE (wildespace @ Jan 15 2013, 12:37 PM...   Jan 15 2013, 07:46 PM
|- - iMPREPREX   QUOTE (wildespace @ Jan 15 2013, 12:29 PM...   Jan 15 2013, 07:34 PM
- - jmknapp   For the multi-spectral sequences, does anyone know...   Feb 6 2013, 12:42 PM
|- - mcaplinger   QUOTE (jmknapp @ Feb 6 2013, 05:42 AM) Fo...   Feb 6 2013, 02:15 PM
- - elakdawalla   We're very close to the date of the first expe...   Feb 6 2013, 05:00 PM
- - CosmicRocker   That's good to hear. Can we expect to find t...   Feb 7 2013, 03:07 AM
- - Greenish   Per http://pds-geosciences.wustl.edu/missions/msl/...   Feb 7 2013, 02:43 PM
- - EdTruthan   Answered from a question in this thread... QUOTE ...   Mar 3 2013, 10:29 PM
|- - mcaplinger   QUOTE (EdTruthan @ Mar 3 2013, 03:29 PM) ...   Mar 4 2013, 01:08 AM
|- - fredk   QUOTE (EdTruthan @ Mar 3 2013, 11:29 PM) ...   Mar 4 2013, 03:55 PM
- - EdTruthan   Mike, I first noticed the three 34mm spots a few w...   Mar 4 2013, 05:22 AM
|- - mcaplinger   QUOTE (EdTruthan @ Mar 3 2013, 10:22 PM) ...   Mar 4 2013, 06:39 AM
- - Lightning   Do you about the schedule for MARDI images release...   May 10 2013, 09:50 PM
- - arko   Just a thought.. Saw this picture today http://mar...   Jun 3 2013, 06:24 PM
|- - mcaplinger   QUOTE (arko @ Jun 3 2013, 11:24 AM) JHow ...   Jun 3 2013, 06:37 PM
- - djellison   Yeah - it would take some very long exposures ( an...   Jun 3 2013, 08:17 PM
- - Astro0   It also might get a little creepy   Jun 3 2013, 11:00 PM
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|- - mcaplinger   QUOTE (wildespace @ Jun 4 2013, 02:58 AM)...   Jun 4 2013, 11:47 AM
- - fredk   Those images are probably not the best comparison,...   Jun 4 2013, 05:40 PM
|- - wildespace   QUOTE (fredk @ Jun 4 2013, 06:40 PM) Thos...   Jun 4 2013, 09:11 PM
- - djellison   Almost 200 sols apart - 1/3rd of a martian year - ...   Jun 4 2013, 09:41 PM
|- - mcaplinger   QUOTE (djellison @ Jun 4 2013, 02:41 PM) ...   Jun 4 2013, 09:45 PM
- - Ant103   But at the end, of what are we arguing about ? Som...   Jun 4 2013, 10:19 PM
- - Gerald   According to this LPSC 2012 paper Mastcam is more ...   Jun 5 2013, 11:49 AM
|- - fredk   QUOTE (Gerald @ Jun 5 2013, 11:49 AM) The...   Jun 5 2013, 02:32 PM
|- - mcaplinger   QUOTE (Gerald @ Jun 5 2013, 04:49 AM) Acc...   Jun 5 2013, 02:49 PM
- - Phil Stooke   This is why I never do anything with color! P...   Jun 5 2013, 12:43 PM
- - wildespace   Sorry if I upset or aggravated anyone here. My mai...   Jun 5 2013, 05:07 PM
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