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 May 3 2005, 11:11 AM
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Does anybody know when and how many MSL will go, or when the decision on this will be made ?
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Dec 3 2005, 05:20 PM
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Careful, there -- oriental languages, which depend on tone to differentiate meaning between otherwise identical sounds, are *much* harder to learn as an adult (for those who did not grow up with such a language) than any other style of language in the world.
-the other Doug -------------------- “The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right.” -Mark Twain
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Dec 3 2005, 07:13 PM
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Way don't we all just learn Esperanto or some modernized more internationalized version?
Anyways I got a question, perhaps I should put it under the MTO cancelled article but I feel this is better due to how off topic you people get. With MTO gone (though jpl still talks about it on there Mars tech page, I guess they will push for it again for 2011 or later) will MSL have a direct to earth antenna, just as a back up at least? Maybe they could just slap one of those on top of the pancam to save weight (use the pancam motors and mast instead of a separate set). |
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Dec 4 2005, 07:54 AM
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[quote=exobioquest,Dec 3 2005, 07:13 PM]
Way don't we all just learn Esperanto or some modernized more internationalized version? I'm TOLD (don't know for sure if it's true but I would NOT be surprised) that Esperanto is no longer the most widely spoken artificial language. That record now goes to... Klingon! |
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Dec 4 2005, 08:41 PM
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QUOTE (edstrick @ Dec 4 2005, 01:54 AM) I'm TOLD (don't know for sure if it's true but I would NOT be surprised) that Esperanto is no longer the most widely spoken artificial language. That record now goes to... Klingon!  trekkies should be shot for sport!  mcaplinger, So it should not come to 50kg then? That’s a relief. So basically what your saying is that MastCam is finicky enough as is and integrating the direct to earth antenna would put so much strain on the system that reinforcing all the systems to handle the weight and work correctly would not be economical in weight savings and/or money? |
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Dec 5 2005, 10:15 PM
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QUOTE (exobioquest @ Dec 4 2005, 03:41 PM) trekkies should be shot for sport! mcaplinger, So it should not come to 50kg then? That’s a relief. So basically what your saying is that MastCam is finicky enough as is and integrating the direct to earth antenna would put so much strain on the system that reinforcing all the systems to handle the weight and work correctly would not be economical in weight savings and/or money? As my memory does not fail, an previous post, a study that the price to send one kilogram to Mars varies according to the weight of rover. The average price would be around US$600,000. The bigger is the rover, likes ones of MSL with over than 700 kilograms in Earth, taking the advantage of scale economy, the price would drop to around US$ 200,000 per kilogram. Rodolfo 
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Marcel 2009 Or 2011 ? May 3 2005, 11:11 AM
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Well I figure the thing was as light ... Dec 4 2005, 03:49 AM mcaplinger QUOTE (exobioquest @ Dec 3 2005, 07:49 PM)If ... Dec 4 2005, 04:33 AM BruceMoomaw QUOTE (edstrick @ Dec 4 2005, 07:54 AM)I... Dec 4 2005, 08:45 AM BruceMoomaw During the November COMPLEX meeting, the NASA spok... Mar 25 2006, 10:00 PM gpurcell QUOTE (BruceMoomaw @ Mar 25 2006, 10:00 P... Mar 26 2006, 02:42 PM mcaplinger QUOTE (gpurcell @ Mar 26 2006, 06:42 AM) ... Mar 26 2006, 11:19 PM AlexBlackwell QUOTE (mcaplinger @ Mar 26 2006, 11:19 PM... Mar 26 2006, 11:31 PM Mariner9 Well, while I would certainly be happy to see more... Mar 26 2006, 06:13 AM BruceMoomaw There never seems to have been any serious discuss... Mar 26 2006, 11:02 PM BruceMoomaw It's not so much that they don't have mone... Mar 27 2006, 02:51 AM |
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