InSight Surface Operations, 26 Nov 2018- 21 Dec 2022 Options

[atomoid]

very nice panoramas shaping up!
continuing attempts to wring islands of stereo imagery out of the latest sol14 thrusters and blasted soils

[antipode]

Nice panos!

Its clearly not a parking lot. Lots of undulating ground at all scales.

At some azimuths I get the impression I can see for many kilometers.

Lines of small dunes/drifts in the middle distance. Big rocks.

What looks like a couple of crater rims on the horizon, and at least once very distant hill.

Phil, have you managed to refine the location at all based on the sol 14 imagery?

Another Phil

[Phil Stooke]

No, not yet, but I'm looking. Meanwhile:

https://twitter.com/ExoMars_CaSSIS/status/1...638302845657094

HiRISE has it! We should see it soon.

Phil

[propguy]

No, not yet, but I'm looking. Meanwhile:

https://twitter.com/ExoMars_CaSSIS/status/1...638302845657094

HiRISE has it! We should see it soon.

Phil

Yes, HIRISE is supposed to release an image later this week. I have seen an image that shows the lander, heatshield, and backshell/parachute location. Have not seen the actual HIRISE image but instead a pre-landing one with dots on the spots where those are located. Can't wait to see the actual image. Sorry not allowed to distribute the photo I was shown.

[monty python]

Just a new thought here. Most of us have heard the "sound" of winds moving around insights solar panels audio recorded by the seismometer I think.

Could these vibrations transfer to the ground and hinder the supper sensitive seismometers work?

[MahFL]

Just a new thought here. Most of us have heard the "sound" of winds moving around insights solar panels audio recorded by the seismometer I think.

Could these vibrations transfer to the ground and hinder the supper sensitive seismometers work?

They said it was unlikely, that's why they want it on the ground, also they would be able to characterise the noise of the vehicle and be able to ignore or recognise it during the long silent listening phase, if it did indeed transfer.

[PaulH51]

Is the InSight image file naming convention publicly available? If so, does anyone here have a link to it

TIA

[Lewis007]

What happened to the "raw" images page ?

https://mars.nasa.gov/insight/multimedia/raw-images/

There is none.

I have a different issue: the raw images page does not work in my browser (Basilisk). I have to use Chrome to get the images.
I wrote NASA to inform them of this issue, but no response yet.
By the way: the feedback link on the InSight webpage did not work either (in Chrome); so I used the general NASA Mars page for my feedback.

It seems the InSight page was developed in a hurry: I never had this mess before (except perhaps with the revamped Cassini webpage a few years ago, but I got a speedy reply, and the issue was solved quickly).

[Paolo]

to me, the site seems to be very slow at times. I think it does not load thumbnails, but it needs to load the full resolution images when you open it

[fredk]

Agreed, thumbnails would be better. And a way to view a list of sols without having to manually enter the sol values would be nice. It would be great if someone could create their own site, akin to those people here have for MER and MSL. But unfortunately that would mean having to code up a harvester from scratch.

[paraisosdelsiste...]

Agreed, thumbnails would be better. And a way to view a list of sols without having to manually enter the sol values would be nice. It would be great if someone could create their own site, akin to those people here have for MER and MSL. But unfortunately that would mean having to code up a harvester from scratch.

I'm trying to write a "harvester", but I'm afraid I won't be able to finish after New Year

[nprev]

They said it was unlikely, that's why they want it on the ground, also they would be able to characterise the noise of the vehicle and be able to ignore or recognise it during the long silent listening phase, if it did indeed transfer.

Also remember that the seismometer will have a 'hat' installed over it, and minimizing wind vibration is one of the reasons for that.

[jhagen]

Here's an anaglyph from the sol 14 frames. I inverted the view for visual comfort.
I only intended to post the top image. The bottom image has some bad shadow artifacts.

Attached thumbnail(s)

 

[propguy]

Also remember that the seismometer will have a 'hat' installed over it, and minimizing wind vibration is one of the reasons for that.

Yes, wind induced noise is a very big concern for SEIS and has been accounted for in the design. As mentioned there is the 'hat' (known as the WTS or Wind and Temperature Shield) plus the instrument cable tether box (that round thing that shows in the upper left of the ICC images) is very complicated in an effort to ensure the lander does not load the instrument as the vehicle moves in the wind. The cable attachment to the instrument even has a flex plate that will drop off to again limit motion to the instrument even if the cable were to move. There is a very good description of the instruments at: Link to Spaceflight101.

[nprev]

Thanks, Propguy.

Quick question re the WTS: How much is it expected to reduce the amount of temperature variation? I can't imagine that the instrument itself will produce much in the way of stray heat, though maybe it doesn't take much to make a significant (and calibrate-able) difference in terms of performance.