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Phoenix has landed!
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post May 26 2008, 06:07 AM
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When is Tesheiner going to start a Phoenix Route Map???

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post May 26 2008, 07:18 AM
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woohoo! amazing stuff! looking forward to the days to come smile.gif
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post May 26 2008, 07:34 AM
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QUOTE (nprev @ May 26 2008, 12:04 AM) *
...he's gonna have to walk a LONG way before he finds a seal, then! tongue.gif


The seals are under the ice. smile.gif
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post May 26 2008, 07:49 AM
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Congrats to all at JPL and the University of Arizona...
A great job by UMSF.com with a server ready for this occasion!
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post May 26 2008, 08:18 AM
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Congratulations Phoenix and JPL! Great landing and a great experience last night.

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post May 26 2008, 08:21 AM
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I'd also like to add my voice to those who have been congratulating NASA and JPL for last night's wonderful achievement. mars.gif


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post May 26 2008, 08:32 AM
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Likewise, many congratulations are due on a truly brilliant recovery from the previous debacle...
which left us wondering about the risks of attempting a non-airbag landing.

Regarding the sparkly object on the horizon, recall that the interior of the backshell is very shiny silvery material (if the same as the Rovers') and those backshells both became inverted on impact, which made them so bright and caused long streaks of camera artifacts similar to what we see here.

Also, given the flat unobstructed terrian, I'll be surprised if the parachute isn't lying visible somewhere on the other side of the spacecraft, currently out of view....
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post May 26 2008, 09:25 AM
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Where can I get a model like the one shown at the press conference?
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post May 26 2008, 11:46 AM
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Great! laugh.gif

btw, there is a light near horizon at one of the pictures? Could it be a headshield or parachute?

http://www.space.fmi.fi/phoenix/ < I'm very happy becouse this is the first time when something from finland goes succesfully to groud of the Mars smile.gif



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post May 26 2008, 01:21 PM
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QUOTE (nprev @ May 25 2008, 09:31 PM) *
I dunno. I mentioned mine dumps on another thread, and they sure look like this in Butte, MT: no coherent pattern in rock shapes, lots of deposition of same on or near frost heave lines (it gets VERY cold there in the winter, and unexpectedly warm in the summer). I'd say that a lot of the rocks we see are being excavated by frost heaves over time.
I'd guess that we're seeing frost heave, plus wind deflation, plus ejecta from the crater to the east. Some pebbles look angular and some rounded. The frost polygons are reminescent of parts of Meridiani, no? Different origin, similar erosional processes.

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post May 26 2008, 01:41 PM
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QUOTE (Bill Harris @ May 26 2008, 01:21 PM) *
The frost polygons are reminescent of parts of Meridiani, no? Different origin, similar erosional processes.


It does look reminiscent of the etched terrain, but I think the scales are different. This is flatter than Meridiani, and the vertical relief of each polygon looks pretty invariant. So what appears to be a sea of dune crests are really the darker sides of the polygons. My estimate last night of 30-50cm height looks to be a 10x over-estimate in the cold light of, er, early afternoon. I can't wait for anaglyphs showing the arm out, to provide scale. As to erosional processes - no, I don't think there's CO2 frost cracking / exfoliation at Meridiani, just aeolian erosion caused by slow moving airborne fines and saltation.

The darker fine material along the edges of the polygons where they slope downwards towards the "cracks", has a crust-like appearance in places. Presumably that's fine dust eroded from the pebbles, and it's preferentially sorted onto the sides of the "valleys" by wind (?)

I have to say I'm quite happy Teshiener won't have to make route maps by deciphering which nearly identical dune we're parked next to today... that whole slog down to Erebus and Beagle was purgatory to me smile.gif



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post May 26 2008, 01:53 PM
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Belated congrats to all the nice people who made this landing a success. smile.gif
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post May 26 2008, 03:20 PM
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In post #173 I also started to consider a comparison of polygons at the Phoenix site and Utopia Planatia (latitude 48N) for Viking 2.
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