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 Nov 6 2009, 06:34 PM
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Not so much an impact, more a little bonk. If that's the word I want here.
Phil -------------------- ... because the Solar System ain't gonna map itself.
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Nov 6 2009, 06:41 PM
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<kenneth williams>
Ooooh, matron! </kenneth williams> -------------------- |
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Nov 6 2009, 08:03 PM
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QUOTE (Ian R @ Nov 6 2009, 10:41 AM)  <kenneth williams> Ooooh, matron! </kenneth williams> Yeah, what a carry on! 
-------------------- Ladies and Gentlemen, Sample Return...
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Nov 6 2009, 08:37 PM
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Stop messin about!
Phil -------------------- ... because the Solar System ain't gonna map itself.
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Nov 6 2009, 08:44 PM
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One thing about this observation of what almost has to be the Surveyor rocket - it suggests to me that the very high sun views will be by far the best for identifying some of the poorly located space hardware - like Luna 9, for instance. It also has a spent descent rocket nearby. Most likely, if it's ever found, it will be seen in a high sun image first.
Phil -------------------- ... because the Solar System ain't gonna map itself.
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Nov 7 2009, 12:56 AM
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QUOTE (Phil Stooke @ Nov 7 2009, 03:44 AM) One thing about this observation of what almost has to be the Surveyor rocket - it suggests to me that the very high sun views will be by far the best for identifying some of the poorly located space hardware - like Luna 9, for instance. I agree, and I was surprised at how useful these high sun views are in this case. But how certain are we that these fresh impacts will always show up dark in high sun views? I seem to remember some of the Ranger impacts had very bright rays, but that might have been under a different sun-angle. |
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Nov 7 2009, 01:02 AM
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I wonder what the odds are of serendipitous finds of booster impacts (thinking of the early probes here, not S-IVBs) based on this soil discoloration 'tell'. Might be hard to distinguish them from recent meteor strikes, I suppose.
-------------------- A few will take this knowledge and use this power of a dream realized as a force for change, an impetus for further discovery to make less ancient dreams real.
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Nov 8 2009, 08:43 PM
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"I seem to remember some of the Ranger impacts had very bright rays, but that might have been under a different sun-angle."
Ranger 9 has bright rays in Apollo 16 images. Ranger 6 might have in Clementine data... but lighting and viewing angles do vary quite a bit. Phil -------------------- ... because the Solar System ain't gonna map itself.
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Nov 9 2009, 10:22 PM
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-------------------- I'm one of the most durable and fervent advocates of space exploration, but my take is that we could do it robotically at far less cost and far greater quantity and quality of results.
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Nov 9 2009, 11:14 PM
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Awesome.
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Nov 10 2009, 12:45 AM
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Yes, that's great. You can see the ray from West Crater coming pretty close to the landing site, suggesting it delivered material to the site which would be among the samples.
Phil -------------------- ... because the Solar System ain't gonna map itself.
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Nov 10 2009, 08:42 AM
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QUOTE (Phil Stooke @ Nov 10 2009, 01:45 AM) Yes, that's great. You can see the ray from West Crater coming pretty close to the landing site, suggesting it delivered material to the site which would be among the samples. Phil Wow there is a lot of rocky ejecta just a couple of hundred meters from the landing site. -------------------- It's a funny old world - A man's lucky if he gets out of it alive. - W.C. Fields.
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Nov 10 2009, 10:16 AM
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Any signs of the flag at the Apollo 11 site? If it was knocked over during the ascent module take off, it may be more visible than in the other landing site images.
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Nov 10 2009, 02:35 PM
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QUOTE (Hungry4info @ Nov 10 2009, 05:16 AM) Any signs of the flag at the Apollo 11 site? ... I will grab grab the A11 site off the official TIFF and destripe/enhance/zoom -etc and post the results tonight when I get home from work. Hope to see the flag and TV camera...! cheers -------------------- CLA CLL
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Nov 10 2009, 02:41 PM
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QUOTE (Hungry4info @ Nov 10 2009, 05:16 AM) Any signs of the flag at the Apollo 11 site? If it was knocked over during the ascent module take off, it may be more visible than in the other landing site images. If the flag did indeed fall over when the ascent module left, it may either have been destroyed by direct exposure to the sun, or possibly covered by dust blown during the takeoff. There seems to be no sign of it from this high-noon sun angle, but that can be expected when there are no shadows to indicate if it is still standing. Just my $.02... |
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