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When Will Oppy Be Free
alan
post May 18 2005, 04:29 AM
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Place your bets. When will Oppy be free of this dune. Pick the sol when all of the wheels are out of the trench and on top of the soil.
I'll start by picking sol 490
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CosmicRocker
post Jun 1 2005, 04:56 AM
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I really enjoy having some cold, hard data to play with. In particular, I like to plot data in ways that help me make sense of it. Dot.dk already posted the data in a really interesting plot of cumulative meters driven versus cumulative centimeters advanced.

I'd like to post two other ways to look at the data. This first plot is a simple scatter plot of the centimeters of progress made in each drive attempt versus meters driven, rather than the cumulative values. (Please note that my graph plots centimeters advanced on the Y axis and meters driven on the X axis. I realize this is the reverse of the convention dot.dk used, but I had already made my graphs and I am too tired to change that right now.)

This kind of graph allows one to calculate the slope of the best fit line to all the data points. The slope of that line represents the average advancement efficiency ratio of all drive atempts so far, and it is essentially equal to the 0.5% that has been published. The R-squared value on the plot indicates the data are not widely scattered.


The second graph is even more interesting, I think. It displays that ratio for each Sol on which there was a drive attempt. It's not a pretty picture. Progress was best when Opportunity initially tried to back out, and it has sytematically gotten worse all the way through to sol 475. You can see the 0.5% plateau between sols 468 and 472, but it drops off after the no-drive problem they had on sol 473.

Sorry for the lengthy discussion, but this looked significant to me.

**Edited to embed the actual graphs into this post. These are the same images that are in the links.



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- alan   When Will Oppy Be Free   May 18 2005, 04:29 AM
- - dot.dk   I don't think (hope) it will take 23 SOLS to g...   May 18 2005, 04:51 AM
- - CosmicRocker   Good idea, but I was hoping we'd get another s...   May 18 2005, 06:09 AM
|- - dvandorn   I'll say Sol 479, but that we won't drive ...   May 18 2005, 07:20 AM
- - chris   482 for me Chris   May 18 2005, 09:19 AM
- - djellison   I'm going to be brave, and out of character is...   May 18 2005, 09:35 AM
|- - EckJerome   QUOTE (djellison @ May 18 2005, 09:35 AM)I...   May 18 2005, 09:58 PM
- - TheChemist   I 'll put my bet on Sol 476, thank you... ...   May 18 2005, 09:39 AM
|- - ustrax   477   May 18 2005, 09:42 AM
|- - djellison   QUOTE (TheChemist @ May 18 2005, 09:39 AM)By ...   May 18 2005, 10:00 AM
- - Tman   Is sol 483 still free? Ok! My vote sol 483 in ...   May 18 2005, 10:16 AM
- - OWW   I think it will be sol 485. But actually I'm ...   May 18 2005, 11:59 AM
- - mike   I say sol 470.   May 18 2005, 05:11 PM
- - alan   A quick analysis of the bets so far (best to do th...   May 18 2005, 06:13 PM
|- - garybeau   I'm going to go with Sol 486. I don't want...   May 18 2005, 06:29 PM
- - RNeuhaus   My guess is that Opportunity will be free of sand ...   May 18 2005, 07:11 PM
- - Chmee   477 all the way baby! Note to self: Send emai...   May 18 2005, 07:25 PM
- - alan   QUOTE (Chmee @ May 18 2005, 07:25 PM)477 all ...   May 18 2005, 07:37 PM
|- - garybeau   Hmmmm. May have to re-think my estimate. Steve Squ...   May 18 2005, 10:00 PM
- - TheChemist   Oppy might be out of the trench after the 2nd 8m w...   May 18 2005, 10:09 PM
|- - mike   QUOTE (TheChemist @ May 18 2005, 02:09 PM)Opp...   May 19 2005, 12:23 AM
||- - Myran   Are sol 479 taken? If not I have it. Thats on a we...   May 19 2005, 09:45 PM
||- - dvandorn   QUOTE (Myran @ May 19 2005, 04:45 PM)Are sol ...   May 20 2005, 02:10 AM
|- - john_s   QUOTE (TheChemist @ May 18 2005, 10:09 PM)Opp...   May 19 2005, 09:51 PM
|- - mike   I was wondering the same thing.. but that dune in ...   May 20 2005, 12:28 AM
- - dot.dk   QUOTE (garybeau @ May 18 2005, 10:00 PM)Hmmmm...   May 18 2005, 10:49 PM
- - Bill Harris   QUOTE (mike @ May 19 2005, 06:28 PM)I was won...   May 20 2005, 01:32 AM
|- - mike   QUOTE (Bill Harris @ May 19 2005, 05:32 PM)QU...   May 20 2005, 05:16 PM
- - alan   sols taken 470, 474,475,476,477, 479,480, 482...   May 20 2005, 02:24 AM
- - Tesheiner   My bet is Sol 473. Tesheiner   May 20 2005, 10:17 AM
- - RNeuhaus   As remainder, now it is sol 470. The winner will g...   May 20 2005, 03:33 PM
- - ddeerrff   As a lurker, I have to jump in here and pick Sol 4...   May 20 2005, 05:25 PM
- - brianc   Ref : JPL e-mail addresses for passing on congrat...   May 20 2005, 08:28 PM
- - djellison   I'll try attaching a golden trowel as an email...   May 20 2005, 10:06 PM
|- - Myran   QUOTE Alan said: sols taken 470, 474,475,476,477, ...   May 22 2005, 06:57 PM
- - Bubbinski   I'll take Sol 484 then.   May 22 2005, 09:10 PM
- - EckJerome   Okay, Oppy, today's my sol....come out for a s...   May 24 2005, 05:18 PM
|- - Myran   QUOTE From AP: Engineers have managed to move Oppo...   May 25 2005, 05:19 AM
- - OWW   from http://space.com/missionlaunches/050524_rover...   May 25 2005, 08:51 AM
- - CosmicRocker   Yep. The progress has been remarkably linear, so ...   May 26 2005, 05:36 AM
- - CosmicRocker   OK, here are the plots, if anyone is interested. ...   May 27 2005, 05:11 AM
|- - chokai   QUOTE (CosmicRocker @ May 26 2005, 09:11 PM)A...   May 27 2005, 05:35 AM
|- - sapodilla   QUOTE (chokai @ May 27 2005, 07:35 AM)It...   May 27 2005, 07:51 AM
|- - RNeuhaus   QUOTE (sapodilla @ May 27 2005, 02:51 AM)QUOT...   May 27 2005, 01:49 PM
|- - sapodilla   I guess that Oppy need to back about 6 meters to g...   May 30 2005, 04:36 PM
||- - RNeuhaus   QUOTE (sapodilla @ May 30 2005, 11:36 AM)I gu...   May 30 2005, 04:57 PM
||- - Jeff7   QUOTE (sapodilla @ May 30 2005, 12:36 PM)I gu...   May 30 2005, 11:12 PM
||- - Edward Schmitz   QUOTE (Jeff7 @ May 30 2005, 04:12 PM)I guess ...   May 31 2005, 04:07 AM
||- - dvandorn   Not in the current terrain, of course not. But wh...   May 31 2005, 06:45 AM
||- - Pando   QUOTE (dvandorn @ May 30 2005, 11:45 PM)Not i...   Jun 1 2005, 12:03 AM
|- - Myran   Were making progress! Edit: Removed hotlin...   May 30 2005, 09:19 PM
- - djellison   Yup - you dont want to command too far - because i...   May 30 2005, 05:13 PM
- - Bubbinski   Couldn't Oppy be programmed for a 250 meter dr...   May 30 2005, 09:40 PM
|- - Edward Schmitz   QUOTE (Bubbinski @ May 30 2005, 02:40 PM)Coul...   May 31 2005, 04:01 AM
- - dot.dk   Played around with excel and made a graph showing ...   May 31 2005, 10:47 PM
- - CosmicRocker   I really enjoy having some cold, hard data to play...   Jun 1 2005, 04:56 AM
|- - dilo   Very interesting plots, Dot.dk/CosmicRocker. Hope ...   Jun 1 2005, 05:42 AM
- - CosmicRocker   I really hope that decreasing trend in the ratio d...   Jun 2 2005, 03:42 AM
- - alan   487,488, and 489 still available. Anyone want to c...   Jun 3 2005, 03:37 PM
|- - mhoward   I'll take 487.   Jun 3 2005, 04:28 PM
|- - mike   QUOTE (alan @ Jun 3 2005, 07:37 AM)487,488, a...   Jun 3 2005, 05:19 PM
- - CosmicRocker   So, who picked Sol 484?   Jun 4 2005, 03:29 PM
- - Bubbinski   "So, who picked Sol 484? biggrin.gif" I...   Jun 4 2005, 03:40 PM
|- - Tman   QUOTE (Bubbinski @ Jun 4 2005, 05:40 PM)...   Jun 4 2005, 06:11 PM
|- - Myran   Can almost see the cartoon version of this already...   Jun 5 2005, 01:04 AM
- - dot.dk   Wooooohooooooo, this is SO GREAT!! ...   Jun 4 2005, 03:47 PM
- - Bill Harris   Yep, the front hazcam in the other thread shows th...   Jun 4 2005, 04:45 PM


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