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Lithium In Titan Atmosphere?, Real or instrument artifact?
Guest_Richard Trigaux_*
post May 27 2005, 08:32 AM
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This spectrum,, obtained by Cassini's ion and neutral mass spectrometer, shows a lithium ray (ordinate= 7)

and also this figure, a mass spectrogram from the same instrument, also show lithium (abscissa=7)

First of all, I wonder if these rays are real, or if they are intrument defects or artifacts. Otherwise only lithium could have a mass of 7 daltons.

The presence of lithium is not really astonishing by itself (there was sodium in Io's atmosphere) but it implies that Titan's atmosphere would be much more reducing than with hydrogen alone. Also there are no traces of oxygen or water in these spectrograms (oxygen and water are linked through oxydation and photo-dissociation)

In a medium where there is an excess of hydrogen, all the available oxygen is reduced, so that this medium becomes reducing. But lithium is much more reducing than hydrogen, so it would take the oxygen in priority. So the presence of lithium implies that there is a source of lithium in excess over Titan's atmospheric oxygen, and that Titan's atmosphere is much more reducing than with only the presence of hydrogen and hydrocarbons...

Where could this lithium come from? It looks as if Titan's hydrogen would be formed directly from an interstellar cloud, and thus would contain some lithium. But if so, it would also contain helium... which is nearby absent! Right on the countrary the mainstream hypothesis is that this hydrogen comes from the photo-dissociation of methane. Maybe there would be some volcanism, releasing together methane and lithium. But this is incompatible with the presence of an ice surface or underground ocean, as lithium and water react violently.

So, if these rays are not instrument artifacts, they are a complete mystery. As far as I know, there was no comment on this.

Anybody have some idea?

Richard
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- Richard Trigaux   Lithium In Titan Atmosphere?   May 27 2005, 08:32 AM
- - Marcel   [But this is incompatible with the presence of an ...   May 27 2005, 09:40 AM
|- - Richard Trigaux   Is that also true in extremely low temperatures a...   May 27 2005, 10:00 AM
|- - Gsnorgathon   QUOTE (Richard Trigaux @ May 27 2005, 10:00 A...   May 28 2005, 02:56 AM
- - volcanopele   Be very careful interpreting INMS data below 10 da...   May 27 2005, 10:27 AM
|- - Richard Trigaux   Yes volcanopele, you may be true, and in this case...   May 27 2005, 10:57 AM
|- - volcanopele   QUOTE (Richard Trigaux @ May 27 2005, 03:57 A...   May 27 2005, 04:02 PM
|- - Richard Trigaux   QUOTE The instrument issue I mentioned is my recol...   May 27 2005, 04:33 PM
|- - TheChemist   QUOTE I can ask Roger again about it but I think h...   May 28 2005, 03:40 PM
|- - Richard Trigaux   Two possible explanations for this ray of lithium:...   May 29 2005, 11:28 AM
- - alan   From the discription of the chart Richard mentions...   May 29 2005, 04:31 PM
|- - Richard Trigaux   QUOTE (alan @ May 29 2005, 04:31 PM)From the ...   May 30 2005, 05:23 AM
- - deglr6328   I suspect Alan is absolutely correct. Don't ma...   May 30 2005, 07:47 AM
- - Richard Trigaux   Thank you deglr6328 for your precisions. Followin...   May 30 2005, 08:22 AM


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