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 May 27 2005, 03:17 PM
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Are there any working theories why the 2 impactor probes (Deep Space 2) that piggybacked on the Mars Polar Lander did not work? Their failure should have nothing to do with the problem with the MPL lander since they were released far above the surface.
I beleive they were designed to withstand 100 gravities of deceleration and still function. Anyone? |
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Jun 20 2006, 05:35 AM
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Also (since you revived this thread, Phil), does anyone know if the impact sites of the two penetrators have ever been imaged?
This is probably more of a question for Phil Stooke, but -- do we even know generally where to point MRO to look for the DS2 impact points? -the other Doug -------------------- “The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right.” -Mark Twain
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Chmee Deep Space 2 May 27 2005, 03:17 PM
djellison Main theory I heard was that the terrain they ende... May 27 2005, 03:49 PM
dvandorn QUOTE (djellison @ May 27 2005, 10:49 AM)Main... May 27 2005, 06:33 PM Decepticon QUOTE When told of the plan to crash-land two prob... May 27 2005, 07:01 PM dvandorn QUOTE (Decepticon @ May 27 2005, 02:01 PM)QUO... May 27 2005, 08:21 PM Chmee Do you guys think there is any merit in this type ... May 27 2005, 07:15 PM Bob Shaw If the ACME Spacecraft Co made spaceprobes at leas... May 27 2005, 07:30 PM Chmee QUOTE (Bob Shaw @ May 27 2005, 03:30 PM)...wh... May 27 2005, 07:51 PM dvandorn QUOTE (Chmee @ May 27 2005, 02:51 PM)QUOTE (B... May 27 2005, 08:32 PM Bob Shaw On a serious note, the Japanese LUNAR-B (I think) ... May 27 2005, 07:58 PM djellison I thought they wanted to called them Divorce and E... May 27 2005, 08:43 PM edstrick I never read or saw that a report on the DS-2 pene... May 29 2005, 05:19 AM The Messenger QUOTE (edstrick @ May 28 2005, 10:19 PM)I nev... Aug 10 2005, 03:23 PM djellison QUOTE (The Messenger @ Aug 10 2005, 03:23 PM)... Aug 10 2005, 03:42 PM lyford QUOTE (The Messenger @ Aug 10 2005, 07:23 AM)... Aug 11 2005, 07:13 AM Phil Stooke "I sort of wish they had used the cartoon nam... May 30 2005, 09:35 PM djellison I entered that DS2 comp as well - with Romulus and... May 30 2005, 09:44 PM dvandorn I wasn't aware of the competition at the time,... May 31 2005, 06:38 AM Bob Shaw QUOTE (djellison @ May 30 2005, 10:44 PM)I en... May 31 2005, 10:58 AM djellison Well, if they did that, then MPL would have to be ... May 31 2005, 07:25 AM dvandorn Can *you* think of a better way to get people to w... May 31 2005, 07:40 AM Bob Shaw QUOTE (dvandorn @ May 31 2005, 08:40 AM)Can *... May 31 2005, 11:03 AM BruceMoomaw For God's sake, if there was any such force it... Aug 11 2005, 01:40 PM The Messenger you have been advised once - and that's the on... Aug 11 2005, 07:20 PM djellison I was THIS close ( finger and thumb just about tou... Aug 11 2005, 01:59 PM Chmee Well, we all know that the Deep Space 2 probes wer... Aug 11 2005, 06:21 PM JRehling QUOTE (Chmee @ Aug 11 2005, 11:21 AM)Well, we... Aug 11 2005, 06:59 PM The Messenger QUOTE (JRehling @ Aug 11 2005, 11:59 AM)My ow... Aug 11 2005, 07:27 PM Gsnorgathon What do you suppose is the likelihood of the oppos... Aug 12 2005, 02:04 AM The Messenger QUOTE (Gsnorgathon @ Aug 11 2005, 07:04 PM)Wh... Aug 17 2005, 04:45 PM BruceMoomaw The trouble is simply that -- as the failure repor... Aug 12 2005, 04:45 AM gallen_53 The DS-2 concept of using a 45 deg. sphere-cone fr... Aug 22 2005, 04:18 AM Bob Shaw I found an interesting image of the two Mars 96 Sm... Oct 3 2005, 09:20 PM helvick QUOTE (Bob Shaw @ Oct 3 2005, 10:20 PM)...the... Oct 3 2005, 10:05 PM Bob Shaw Quite a lot of other detail at http://www.iki.rssi... Oct 4 2005, 11:53 AM Bob Shaw The IKI site is interesting - I hadn't realise... Oct 4 2005, 01:23 PM tedstryk QUOTE (Bob Shaw @ Oct 3 2005, 09:20 PM)I foun... Oct 3 2005, 10:29 PM helvick QUOTE (tedstryk @ Oct 3 2005, 11:29 PM)There ... Oct 3 2005, 11:17 PM tty QUOTE (helvick @ Oct 4 2005, 01:17 AM)If you ... Oct 5 2005, 06:48 PM Bob Shaw QUOTE (tedstryk @ Oct 3 2005, 11:29 PM)There ... Oct 5 2005, 08:21 PM BruceMoomaw Actually, it was overboard of me to bring up ... Aug 17 2005, 10:15 PM djellison And anyway - the phrase is Hoaglanderati
Doug Aug 17 2005, 10:26 PM Bob Shaw QUOTE (djellison @ Aug 17 2005, 11:26 PM)And ... Aug 18 2005, 03:53 PM edstrick The Messenger:
"Interesting thought. Studies ... Aug 18 2005, 10:45 AM BruceMoomaw There have indeed been quite a lot of abstracts on... Aug 22 2005, 08:33 AM gallen_53 Bruce Moomaw said
QUOTE But keep in mind that bac... Aug 23 2005, 06:17 AM edstrick I never saw a "final investigation report... Aug 22 2005, 08:46 AM BruceMoomaw I HAVE seen the final DS-2 report, and they though... Aug 22 2005, 01:00 PM BruceMoomaw I didn't say it was a DS-2 sized penetrator --... Aug 23 2005, 08:35 AM Bob Shaw QUOTE (BruceMoomaw @ Aug 23 2005, 09:35 AM)I ... Aug 23 2005, 11:55 AM The Messenger http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/marsreports/mpl_report_1.p... Aug 23 2005, 06:10 PM BruceMoomaw I see "Messenger" has beaten me to the p... Aug 23 2005, 10:47 PM BruceMoomaw Well, Mars 96 wouldn't have worked even if it ... Oct 4 2005, 03:16 AM BruceMoomaw Actually, the Russian penetrators bear a very stro... Oct 5 2005, 11:01 AM tedstryk I think a great mission would be to put two of tho... Oct 5 2005, 01:14 PM Bob Shaw QUOTE (BruceMoomaw @ Oct 5 2005, 12:01 PM)Act... Oct 5 2005, 08:18 PM BruceMoomaw "Have you ever seen any specs for the somewha... Oct 5 2005, 11:04 PM PhilHorzempa Perhaps soemone else recalls follow-up work done r... Jun 20 2006, 05:01 AM PhilHorzempa QUOTE (PhilHorzempa @ Jun 20 2006, 01:01 ... Jul 1 2006, 03:47 AM djellison Obviously as part of the MPL MOC search, DS2 impac... Jun 20 2006, 07:12 AM mchan What would a DS2 impact site be expected to look l... Jun 20 2006, 07:54 AM djellison Give that Beagle 2 was expected to create a crater... Jun 20 2006, 08:03 AM |
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