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Well Spotted, Shooting Star confirmed
jaredGalen
post Jun 1 2005, 08:27 PM
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Looks like the streak spotted back in March is most likely a bit of a comet called Wiseman–Skiff. According to this article

Fantastic little addition to Spirits 'research portfolio.' tongue.gif


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Chmee
post Jun 2 2005, 02:55 PM
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What interests me is that Martian meteor showers should be much more spectacular than Earth's since its atmosphere is so much thinner; the meteor burns up at a much lower altitude with a corresponding increase in brightness and length.

This is probably why Spirit was able to capture it in its pancam. Had that same meteorite entered Eath's atmosphere it would have been much dimmer.
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post Jun 2 2005, 05:13 PM
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QUOTE (Chmee @ Jun 2 2005, 02:55 PM)
What interests me is that Martian meteor showers should be much more spectacular than Earth's since its atmosphere is so much thinner; the meteor burns up at a much lower altitude with a corresponding increase in brightness and length.

This is probably why Spirit was able to capture it in its pancam.  Had that same meteorite entered Eath's atmosphere it would have been much dimmer.
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Though mars.gif' atmosphere is much thinner at the ground, it is not so at high altitudes due to the lower gravity. Most meteors burn up in the Earth's atmosphere above 80 km. You will find the same air density at an elevation of ~65 km in mars.gif' atmosphere, so only 15 km lower. Above 100 km the difference is even smaller. So I would expect them to be only slightly brighter as they are slowed down at a comparable rate.
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post Jun 2 2005, 08:48 PM
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MichaelT's comments regarding the relative densities of the upper atmospheres of Mars and Earth are right on the ball!

One difference, however, must be due to the orbital position of Mars (further out from the Sun, hence lower 'collision speed' with incoming particles). Another might be the lower escape velocity, so that objects falling from an 'infinite' distance will impact at a lower velocity than on the Earth. Of course, objects in out of the ecliptic orbits (like many comets, which provide us with trails of dust) will still have a fair old wallop.

My feeling is that the distributon of masses which make it through the atmosphere may *not* be exactly like our own, local, experience - Mars' atmosphere, gravity and distance from the sun may select for a different population of objects making it to the ground.

Oh, and as for the chemistry... ...could a white-hot nickel-iron meteorite oxidise in the upper atmosphere by grabbing oxygen off of CO2 molecules?


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- jaredGalen   Well Spotted   Jun 1 2005, 08:27 PM
- - Mode5   Incredible. I am still awestruck at the pics of th...   Jun 1 2005, 11:18 PM
|- - dilo   QUOTE (Mode5 @ Jun 1 2005, 11:18 PM)Incredibl...   Jun 2 2005, 07:02 AM
- - edstrick   I've "armwaved" that stationary land...   Jun 2 2005, 07:13 AM
|- - Bob Shaw   QUOTE (edstrick @ Jun 2 2005, 08:13 AM)I...   Jun 2 2005, 12:13 PM
- - Tman   Calculating of possible showers on Mars? Hey that...   Jun 2 2005, 11:22 AM
- - Chmee   What interests me is that Martian meteor showers s...   Jun 2 2005, 02:55 PM
|- - MichaelT   QUOTE (Chmee @ Jun 2 2005, 02:55 PM)What inte...   Jun 2 2005, 05:13 PM
|- - Bob Shaw   MichaelT's comments regarding the relative den...   Jun 2 2005, 08:48 PM
|- - abalone   Oh, and as for the chemistry... ...could a white-h...   Jun 13 2005, 12:40 PM
|- - Bob Shaw   OK, so for a representative range of bodies, from ...   Jun 13 2005, 08:20 PM
|- - helvick   Bob, Re your first questions - Mars gravity has r...   Jun 13 2005, 10:08 PM
|- - abalone   Bob On atmospheric entry we know that obects quit...   Jun 14 2005, 06:39 AM
- - dvandorn   This discussion points out why I have a certain di...   Jun 14 2005, 04:22 PM
|- - dilo   Did someone already noticed/discussed this image, ...   Jun 17 2005, 11:38 PM
||- - abalone   QUOTE (dilo @ Jun 18 2005, 10:38 AM)Did someo...   Jun 18 2005, 02:07 AM
|- - Bob Shaw   So: Some 'minor' (10KPS!) velocity di...   Jun 18 2005, 08:22 PM
|- - helvick   QUOTE (Bob Shaw @ Jun 18 2005, 09:22 PM)So:...   Jun 18 2005, 10:21 PM
|- - Bob Shaw   All very true - but I still think that the populat...   Jun 18 2005, 10:35 PM
|- - abalone   QUOTE (Bob Shaw @ Jun 19 2005, 09:35 AM)I...   Jun 19 2005, 12:59 AM
- - edstrick   If, big-if, the bright colored etched terrain mate...   Jun 19 2005, 05:10 AM
- - Bob Shaw   I don't think I'd suggest using valuable r...   Jun 19 2005, 11:55 AM
- - helvick   QUOTE (Bob Shaw @ Jun 18 2005, 11:35 PM)This ...   Jun 19 2005, 01:07 PM


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