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Jun 2 2005, 07:45 PM
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What may you estimate? Which direction have they decided for Spirit?
http://www.greuti.ch/spirit/which_route.jpg Thanks Phil for this map! I put my money on 3. This post has been edited by Tman: Jun 2 2005, 07:59 PM -------------------- |
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Jun 12 2005, 10:14 PM
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At high obliquity, the poles actually get MORE sunlight than the equator. For example, at 90 degrees obliquity (the extreme example), the equator gets no sunlight at midsummer and midwinter, but only gets a "normal" day/night cycle at spring and fall equinoxes. Granted, there's a big winter polar cap at each winter pole, but the equator effectively has spring winter fall winter cycles.
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Jun 13 2005, 10:08 AM
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QUOTE (dvandorn @ Jun 12 2005, 10:59 AM) Something else strikes me about this rock even more strongly. Those are zap pits! Since "backstay" apparently is mineralogically different from anything else around it is quite likely a piece of impact ejecta. These features may well be related to this, either through collisions between ejecta or (more likely) erosion during re-entry. tty |
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Jun 13 2005, 11:55 AM
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![]() Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 362 Joined: 12-June 05 From: Kiama, Australia Member No.: 409 |
There seem to be as many bumps as there are pits on the the rock surface and the pits do not seem to be any more common as the surface is more horizontal as might be expected if they were caused by micrometeorites.
I believe that micrometeorites burn up in the Earth's atmosphere at an altitude of about 100-120 km. In an artical by Japan Association of Remote Sensing at http://www.profc.udec.cl/~gabriel/tutorial...e/cp5/cp5-2.htm a graph gives an atmospheric density of about 10 E-7 kgm-3 at that altitude. You have to compare atmospheric density rather than pressure I think, since the same atmospheric density on Mars would give a lower pressure due to the lower gravity there. The current Atm density on Mars as given by Matthew Buynoski, Senior Member Technical Staff,Advanced Micro Devices at http://www.madsci.org/posts/archives/may98...35313.As.r.html is give as 0.04kgm-3. If the 95% that is CO2 freezes out it would leave 1/20th, about 0.002kgm-3. This is still 3,000 times as much is on Earth at 120 km or to put it another way equal to the Earth's atm at about 50km. I don't think any micrometeorites would survive that far. I recall that when the Russian Mir Station reentered some years ago it was toasted and broke up at about 80km. I don't think it is quite as simple as this of course since the lower temp would allow the atm to contract closer to the surface, its only to give some kind approximation |
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Jun 13 2005, 12:20 PM
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Jun 13 2005, 12:46 PM
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Here is Tesheiner's pan in polar projection. Spirit is a few meters west of its earlier location on Methuselah.
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Jun 13 2005, 01:23 PM
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Jun 13 2005, 02:11 PM
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QUOTE (NIX @ Jun 13 2005, 01:23 PM) Wow Nix, ever since I have started viewing your site, JPL's pans have seemed, well, poorly done. Great work! -------------------- |
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Jun 13 2005, 02:30 PM
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Hey, I guess Spirit is looking for path No. 3!
http://www.greuti.ch/spirit/spirit_navcam_sol513b.jpg http://www.greuti.ch/spirit/which_route.jpg -------------------- |
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Jun 13 2005, 02:31 PM
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![]() Chief Assistant ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Posts: 1409 Joined: 5-January 05 From: Ierapetra, Greece Member No.: 136 |
Thanks Ed!
Looking at this one I was thinking it must be a hard decision not entering the valley and look at some features up close. On the other hand the safe route is FINE by me. Take us to the summit JPL! Nico -------------------- photographer, space imagery enthusiast, proud father and partner, and geek.
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Jun 13 2005, 02:44 PM
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Holy CRAP Nix - that one's a STUNNER
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Jun 13 2005, 02:51 PM
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QUOTE (NIX @ Jun 13 2005, 02:31 PM) Thanks Ed! Looking at this one I was thinking it must be a hard decision not entering the valley and look at some features up close. On the other hand the safe route is FINE by me. Take us to the summit JPL! Nico I'm Ted -------------------- |
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Jun 13 2005, 03:01 PM
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Slowly JPL should buy the panoramas out or if they already do, change the maker!
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Jun 13 2005, 04:00 PM
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![]() Chief Assistant ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Posts: 1409 Joined: 5-January 05 From: Ierapetra, Greece Member No.: 136 |
Gee thanks! I have been trying to perfect my sol 508 (was it 508?) pan of the trenches left behind at the slide feature but it's driven me
I hope to keep up a steady rate for letting the site grow. There's many ideas, and many images but er... life's too short! Nico -------------------- photographer, space imagery enthusiast, proud father and partner, and geek.
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Jun 13 2005, 04:02 PM
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![]() Special Cookie ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2168 Joined: 6-April 05 From: Sintra | Portugal Member No.: 228 |
QUOTE (NIX @ Jun 13 2005, 01:23 PM) NIX, that is so...close to perfection... About routes...I've changed my betdue to the latest update... from: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v352/ustrax/ramp5.jpg to: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v352/ustrax/ramp6.jpg -------------------- "Ride, boldly ride," The shade replied, "If you seek for Eldorado!"
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Jun 13 2005, 04:05 PM
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![]() Special Cookie ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2168 Joined: 6-April 05 From: Sintra | Portugal Member No.: 228 |
I managed to get a small place to accomodate all the Ultreya issues.
A visit will be warmly saluted... ultreymars.blogspot.com -------------------- "Ride, boldly ride," The shade replied, "If you seek for Eldorado!"
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