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alan
post Jun 3 2005, 07:27 PM
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Solar system simulator shows an encouter under 500,000 km on June 6. Will there be a good view of the south pole on this pass?
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post Jun 7 2005, 04:10 PM
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I think those are just surface markings. Those we can match up to T0 features appear to be consistent, despite the change in illumination angle.


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post Jun 7 2005, 04:22 PM
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Here is an enhancement....I can't wait to see a non-jpeged processing of this image and those like it!
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post Jun 7 2005, 05:38 PM
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QUOTE (tedstryk @ Jun 7 2005, 09:22 AM)
Here is an enhancement....I can't wait to see a non-jpeged processing of this image and those like it!
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Great work... simple work, I guess, on an awesome image.

My sense is, with this image we've found our lakes, with verification coming after we get an opportunity to scan these with RADAR and/or align them for specular glints. If the lakes are there long enough for such a flyover (at the start of the extended mission?) to take place.

Titan's got long seasons. The observations so far are copacetic with this: The summer hemisphere sees sporadic methane clouds, most concentrated at the summer pole, and sometimes making a ring there. These clouds somehow lead to broader darkening of the overlying hazes. The clouds rain or mist down to the surface, wetting the summer pole and creating standing bodies of liquid and feeding seasonal systems that roughly flow equatorwards. That same pole may become dry during its autumn/winter.

The most exciting possibility would be if there is a winter ice cap lurking in the dark, that melts to release massive global floods as the equinox approaches, flooding the equatorial dark areas, which currently seem to be dry or damp at best, but to have endured floods in the past. If there is a seasonal cycle, then a new temporary ocean is a few years away. But, it may also turn out to be much longer, even an eon, since those dark areas were actually wet.

This image might well go down in history as a discovery/prediscovery image of great import.
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post Jun 7 2005, 06:46 PM
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QUOTE (JRehling @ Jun 7 2005, 10:38 AM)
  This image might well go down in history as a discovery/prediscovery image of great import.
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It is very intriguing but we will need RADAR or a specular point analysis to prove the case. Nevertheless, this is the first feature I feel comfortable calling a "possible lake".


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post Jun 7 2005, 06:50 PM
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Careful, though -- it could also be an empty lakebed filled with the same sort of "mud" that Huygens landed on. It's hard to say.

Will RADAR reflect off the surface of an ethane or methane lake, or will it penetrate right to the solid icy surface underneath? In other words, will a RADAR pass tell us if that depression is filled with liquid, or not?

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- alan   Rev 9 Observations   Jun 3 2005, 07:27 PM
- - volcanopele   Funny you should ask: http://volcanopele.blogspot...   Jun 3 2005, 08:06 PM
- - Decepticon   http://space.jpl.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/wspace?t...porbs...   Jun 3 2005, 10:57 PM
- - volcanopele   Images from yesterday are on the ground and are sh...   Jun 5 2005, 06:31 PM
|- - tedstryk   QUOTE (volcanopele @ Jun 5 2005, 06:31 PM)Ima...   Jun 6 2005, 01:27 PM
|- - dilo   Let's start with a approach animation: http://...   Jun 7 2005, 06:35 AM
- - edstrick   I grabbed the last of the Rev 009 Titan full frame...   Jun 7 2005, 07:30 AM
|- - dvandorn   QUOTE (edstrick @ Jun 7 2005, 02:30 AM)...The...   Jun 7 2005, 08:25 AM
- - edstrick   The sharpness and high contrast of the Smile with ...   Jun 7 2005, 09:26 AM
- - Decepticon   Wow ! Lots more. http://saturn1.jpl.nasa.go...   Jun 7 2005, 01:19 PM
- - volcanopele   Very nice! Looks like a pin-wheel at the sout...   Jun 7 2005, 03:32 PM
|- - tedstryk   Looks like some terminator shadows, whether in the...   Jun 7 2005, 03:57 PM
- - volcanopele   I think those are just surface markings. Those we...   Jun 7 2005, 04:10 PM
|- - tedstryk   Here is an enhancement....I can't wait to see ...   Jun 7 2005, 04:22 PM
|- - JRehling   QUOTE (tedstryk @ Jun 7 2005, 09:22 AM)Here i...   Jun 7 2005, 05:38 PM
|- - gpurcell   QUOTE (JRehling @ Jun 7 2005, 05:38 PM)Great ...   Jun 7 2005, 05:46 PM
||- - um3k   QUOTE (gpurcell @ Jun 7 2005, 01:46 PM)Check ...   Jun 7 2005, 06:02 PM
|- - volcanopele   QUOTE (JRehling @ Jun 7 2005, 10:38 AM)...   Jun 7 2005, 06:46 PM
|- - dvandorn   Careful, though -- it could also be an empty lakeb...   Jun 7 2005, 06:50 PM
- - volcanopele   I'm working on these as I type   Jun 7 2005, 04:36 PM
- - Sunspot   WOW....is that dark "blob" real or an ar...   Jun 7 2005, 05:07 PM
- - alan   Whats the smooth edged dark area on the right side...   Jun 7 2005, 05:08 PM
- - volcanopele   Maybe.....   Jun 7 2005, 05:12 PM
|- - Sunspot   QUOTE (volcanopele @ Jun 7 2005, 06:12 PM)...   Jun 7 2005, 05:36 PM
- - dvandorn   I really think many of these issues would be easie...   Jun 7 2005, 05:46 PM
- - OWW   Ice caldera anyone? http://photojournal.jpl.nasa....   Jun 7 2005, 07:03 PM
- - volcanopele   or lake bed...yes... No, in all honesty, this is ...   Jun 7 2005, 07:07 PM
|- - tedstryk   Did VIMS observer this area on this pass?   Jun 7 2005, 07:11 PM
- - volcanopele   Possibly, but their resolution would have been WAY...   Jun 7 2005, 07:22 PM
|- - tedstryk   Yes, but if it was a hotspot, I figured it might a...   Jun 7 2005, 08:21 PM
- - Decepticon   I'm very impressed with this non targeted flyb...   Jun 7 2005, 09:13 PM
- - volcanopele   None that I know of. though this is the only non-...   Jun 7 2005, 09:32 PM
- - edstrick   Bandpass-filter enhancements of two pairs of 2/3 d...   Jun 8 2005, 06:52 AM
- - Phil Stooke   South pole of Titan... I've stacked four frame...   Jun 8 2005, 01:23 PM
|- - JRehling   QUOTE (Phil Stooke @ Jun 8 2005, 06:23 AM)Sou...   Jun 8 2005, 02:20 PM
- - Phil Stooke   Here are the two T0 mosaics... reduced size, and n...   Jun 8 2005, 02:10 PM


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