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post Jun 30 2005, 08:18 AM
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post Aug 3 2005, 02:23 AM
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The TIFF format has been around for a long time, whereas PNG is a newcomer.. TIFF also allows you to specify just about everything anyone could ever possibly care about image-wise, whereas PNG deliberately concentrates on the 'basic' image data. Look at the specs for TIFF sometime, you'll see what I mean. smile.gif
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QUOTE (mike @ Aug 2 2005, 09:23 PM)
The TIFF format has been around for a long time, whereas PNG is a newcomer..  TIFF also allows you to specify just about everything anyone could ever possibly care about image-wise, whereas PNG deliberately concentrates on the 'basic' image data.  Look at the specs for TIFF sometime, you'll see what I mean.  smile.gif
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But does NASA actually use any of that extra stuff? All I can find extra in one image I downloaded from their catalog is the kind of compression used (LZW) and what I assume is the program used to compress the file - VICAR Program VTIFF.

I suppose extra info embedded in a file could be useful though.
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QUOTE (Jeff7 @ Aug 2 2005, 08:27 PM)
But does NASA actually use any of that extra stuff? All I can find extra in one image I downloaded from their catalog is the kind of compression used (LZW) and what I assume is the program used to compress the file - VICAR Program VTIFF.

I suppose extra info embedded in a file could be useful though.
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From what I recall, TIFF was created long long ago, when there was wide disparity between how images were represented in various mainframes (and maybe even minicomputers!), and there simply was no unified graphics file format, so they threw everything they could think of into the spec so that nobody would be left out. It's a pretty crazy format - it seemed overly complex when I looked at it way back when, but maybe it would make more sense to me now. Regardless, it's been around so long that it's still 'the' image format to use when you want platform independence. GIF and PNG (and BMP) have always been rather PC-centric.
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