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Jul 11 2005, 11:15 PM
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We now have the first density estimate of it from Cassini -- and it appears
that we have yet ANOTHER icy rubble pile. The estimate: 0.6 grams/cc. Also, the surface is now officially recognized as very weird, in a way that suggests that it is in no way a solid world: http://ciclops.org/view.php?id=1192 |
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Jul 12 2005, 02:40 PM
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QUOTE Decepticon wrote: Ok here's one that might be hard to swallow. I think Hyperion is a captured comet. Yes, I cant but agree with you, I find that idea hard to swallow. I would say its ar more likely Hyperion used to be a more 'normal' icy moon, that once in the past took a tremedous blow by one impacting body. The moon shattered and after time recollected but the weak gravity couldnt compress the pieces leaving the spaces that gives it the low density. If thats not the case it could contain frozen gases that are lighter than water, and with a dark material on the surface I do understand how you come to think of a comet, but I seriosuly dont think it is. |
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Jul 12 2005, 08:30 PM
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If we're accepting *any* captures as the origin of outer planetary moons (as opposed to a mini solar accretion disk) then surely comet/cometoid bodies are quite likely to be captured - there's lots of 'em, and they have orbits which mess with the gas giants on a regular basis (bet the Jovian Trojans are cometoids!). We saw evidence in the Jupiter system of crater chains from disrupted comets, as well as an actual disrupted comet impact, and as for the first port of call when Cassini hit Saturn's outer suburbs...
...but - and it's a b-i-g BUT: wouldn't we preferentially see these guys on the outer fringes of the systems which they've come to inhabit, not slam-bang up against the planets? The orbital mechanics surrounding a d-i-s-t-a-n-t capture are going to be much more benign than something just above the clouds (well, almost!). Maybe there's a size thing going on, with some ancient KBO population being captured and preserved in almost the inner Solar System while their brethren were gradually pumped out - or in - and only standard-sized comets were left... -------------------- Remember: Time Flies like the wind - but Fruit Flies like bananas!
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BruceMoomaw A Shocker About Hyperion Jul 11 2005, 11:15 PM
alan Obviously Hoagland is calling the wrong moon an al... Jul 11 2005, 11:33 PM
Decepticon QUOTE (alan @ Jul 11 2005, 07:33 PM)Obviously... Jul 12 2005, 12:09 AM
BruceMoomaw Actually, those strange, small, relatively uniform... Jul 12 2005, 02:03 AM
BruceMoomaw At any rate, now we know: Hyperion's non-spher... Jul 12 2005, 02:07 AM
abalone QUOTE (BruceMoomaw @ Jul 12 2005, 01:07 PM)Ob... Jul 12 2005, 12:27 PM
Decepticon Ok here's one that might be hard to swallow.
... Jul 12 2005, 01:45 PM
abalone QUOTE (Bob Shaw @ Jul 13 2005, 07:30 AM)If we... Jul 12 2005, 11:18 PM
Bob Shaw QUOTE (abalone @ Jul 13 2005, 12:18 AM)Captur... Jul 13 2005, 02:09 PM
Rob Pinnegar What about disintegrative capture? If, several bil... Jul 14 2005, 12:10 AM
Bob Shaw Rob:
Seems reasonable - and presumably would also... Jul 14 2005, 09:55 AM![]() ![]() |
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