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Mystery Pioneer Image Of Jupiter
gndonald
post Jul 21 2005, 03:49 PM
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QUOTE (um3k @ Jul 21 2005, 10:36 PM)
That is an artifact of the scanning (presumably).
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The hexagonal effect on the image of Jupiter is indeed a result of the scanning process, sadly the resolution settings were in the hands of the person who owned the net cafe and not myself.

However the 'rocketship' in the upper left is, sadly, not an artifact of the scanning process.
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post Jul 21 2005, 04:22 PM
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QUOTE (gndonald @ Jul 21 2005, 08:49 AM)
the 'rocketship' in the upper left is, sadly, not an artifact of the scanning process.
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Note that three anomalies in the image are neatly parallel* to the top and bottom margins of the image: (A) The "spacecraft", (cool.gif its "exhaust", and a line, ©, rather like the "exhaust" that is closer to the top of the image. C is, like B, more prominent to the right, and gently fades to the left.

A and B both seem to amount to an overconcentration of lightness around a horizontal line. C seems to fit the bill, too. I wonder if all three aren't due to something happening to a hardcopy at some intermediate stage in an old printing process. For example, if the image was scanned (before publication of the book) from left to right, and grit in the scanner peeled off toner from the original image on two horizontal lines. In the case of C, the grit made its way fully across the image. In the case of B, the grit got fully wedged at position A, finally sticking and making a big mess there, but ending the track so that it doesn't cross the page fully. I've seen this kind of thing in other images, although they are rarer in the digital era.

* = B is not perfectly parallel with respect to the posted JPG, but is so within 2 pixels over a run of 100 pixels wide. This is probably with the ability of someone aligning a document on a flatbed scanner to put a book down neatly.
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post Jul 21 2005, 04:51 PM
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I am referring to scanning by the imaging photopolarimeter on the Pioneer spacecraft, not the scanner you scanned the book with.


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post Jul 21 2005, 06:33 PM
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QUOTE (Jeff7 @ Jul 21 2005, 11:25 AM)
Artifact of the printing, actually. Look really close at newsprint pictures sometime.

The effect there can be eliminated by use of a "moire removal filter."
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I know that, silly! You don't see the moire effect with your eyes (in this situation), thus it is an artifact of the scanning. wink.gif
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post Jul 21 2005, 08:25 PM
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QUOTE (djellison @ Jul 21 2005, 02:49 PM)
Looks like it's much higher resolution that the actual image in question, and thus could well be an artifact introduced while printing the book?

ODug
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oDug:

That's *exactly* right! It's just a flaw on the printing plates.

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post Jul 27 2005, 12:07 PM
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Looks like a UFO to me. cool.gif
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post Jul 27 2005, 12:39 PM
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QUOTE (Decepticon @ Jul 27 2005, 07:07 AM)
Looks like a UFO to me. cool.gif
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Oh please - most UFOs are way beyond primitive fusion drives, which that vessel clearly is. It's just a test by the Deep Black Deep Space section of the US military.

I'm just waiting for the Mars Face crowd to take this image seriously as well.


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post Jul 27 2005, 03:33 PM
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QUOTE (ljk4-1 @ Jul 27 2005, 08:39 PM)
Oh please - most UFOs are way beyond primitive fusion drives, which that vessel clearly is.  It's just a test by the Deep Black Deep Space section of the US military.

I'm just waiting for the Mars Face crowd to take this image seriously as well.
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I've always been surprised that this has, to my knowledge, never been promoted by any UFO/Aliens Are Among Us believer in any form.

Not even by Hoagland...
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post Jul 27 2005, 04:03 PM
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QUOTE (gndonald @ Jul 27 2005, 10:33 AM)
I've always been surprised that this has, to my knowledge, never been promoted by any UFO/Aliens Are Among Us believer in any form.

Not even by Hoagland...
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In addition to the image being little known, unlike the Mars Face and other such ilk, an alleged spaceship ziopping past Jupiter cannot be "anchored" to like the MF, which stays in one spot on a reachable goal.

That's my conspiracy theory, anyway.

As cool as it may be to find an alien artifact in our celestial neighborhood, I think we should do a lot more searching in other reaches of the galaxy. Unless something has been planted somewhere in our neck of the cosmic woods to be deliberately found (such as a big black monolith in the lunar crater Tycho), any ETI probes studying us from nearby will no doubt be able to avoid our detection methods unless it wants to be found.


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not thus harden and make coarse. A hard, sensible man whom we liken to a rock is
indeed much harder than a rock. From hard, coarse, insensible men with whom I have
no sympathy, I go to commune with the rocks, whose hearts are comparatively soft."

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post Jul 27 2005, 04:28 PM
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QUOTE (Decepticon @ Jul 27 2005, 05:07 AM)
Looks like a UFO to me. cool.gif
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Well, then, I guess it fits within the topic of this site -- unmanned spaceflight.
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post Jul 28 2005, 01:11 PM
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Is everyone wearing there belts to tight?! I was just kidding! tongue.gif
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post Aug 1 2005, 11:26 AM
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It's the nib and plastic tube holding the ink of a biro, which someone has used to point out a cloud feature on the original image
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post Aug 27 2005, 02:46 PM
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QUOTE (TheChemist @ Jul 21 2005, 02:33 PM)
What kind of image is this, could it maybe a drawing ?
Jupiter appears as an "hexagonal" network of red and yellow colors (much like C-60, a fullerene  smile.gif )
The rocket is clearly added afterwards, maybe this was a joke for the book editor ?
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*Quite the joke. mad.gif

Out of curiosity for the Pioneer 10 images (the legitimate ones that is), I searched Google .

Images and captions

There are some beauts here; images I've not seen before (or if I have it's been a long time ago -- childhood) including at least two which appear to be looking down at Jupiter. Fan-tastic! smile.gif

I'm combing through it for any reports of legit anomalies.
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post Aug 27 2005, 07:09 PM
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That is a great book that NASA has put online. Unfortunately, the scans of the image are terribly low resolution. I have a print copy, and the currently online images do not compare.


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