[X] My Assistant

[Bob Shaw]

Pass the crackers.

Bob 'Grommit' Shaw

[Dyche Mullins]

Back in early 1970, while thumbing through an issue of "Science", I was thunderstruck to find -- smack in the middle of the other reports, with no warning or indication at all -- a study comparing the physical properties of Apollo 11 and 12 samples to those of various types of cheese, and concluding that their higher density and other different properties could be explained by noting "how much better aged the lunar samples are". I don't even think it was an Apr. 1, 1970 issue!

The table in post #28 is from that very Science paper by Schreiber and Anderson.

[PhilHorzempa]

Does anyone have a digital version of the very first Lunar Farside Chart,
LFC-1, issued in August 1967? This is the one that utilized images from Zond 3
to fill in coverage gaps of the Farside from the first 4 Lunar Orbiters.

This first Farside Chart made a big impression on me. I was pretty young
in 1967, but I was still amazed when this chart was published. Here was the
face of the Farside of the Moon, hidden from mankind until our generation.
Here was detail, not the fuzzy photos from Luna 3.

According to info from the LPI, the LFC-1 was re-issued in October 1967
using the recent photos from Lunar Orbiter 5.


Another Phil

[DDAVIS]

[quote name='PhilHorzempa' date='Jun 7 2006, 04:53 AM' post='57354']


Does anyone have a digital version of the very first Lunar Farside Chart,
LFC-1, issued in August 1967? This is the one that utilized images from Zond 3
to fill in coverage gaps of the Farside from the first 4 Lunar Orbiters.

This first Farside Chart made a big impression on me. I was pretty young
in 1967, but I was still amazed when this chart was published. Here was the
face of the Farside of the Moon, hidden from mankind until our generation.
Here was detail, not the fuzzy photos from Luna 3.

Yes, I recently made a detailed scan of it and I will share it when I get around to preparing the scans. It is a snapshot of the unknown becoming known.

According to info from the LPI, the LFC-1 was re-issued in October 1967
using the recent photos from Lunar Orbiter 5.
Another Phil

I have 2 copies of this, the first good lunar farside chart, from my USGS Apollo era days. One is the original edition with the beautiful greenish printed airbrush art, the other a later edition with ugly red grid lines printed atop the map.

Don Davis

[Phil Stooke]

I have this map as well. It went through several variations, with (as you say) the Orbiter 5 detail added, grids, names etc. One version had the Apollo 10 farside crater/basin numbering scheme before names were added. (For Apollo 8 they made up names like Gilruth, Texas, Houston, Armstrong for craters). Then at the 1970 IAU meeting a version with proposed real names in purple overprint was circulated. That's what I would like, I've seen it but I don't own it - a tragedy for any collector. The whole relief was redrawn a ywar or two later, as well.

Phil

[ustrax]

Mike:

Have you been talking to Ustrax?

Bob Shaw

Bob:

Seems like you're in need of a good hug...

[Bob Shaw]

Ustrax:

You're too kind - but have a word with Phil Stooke first, though, he's getting a bit 'enthusiastic' about his olde mappes again...

Bob Shaw

[SkyeLab]

Perhaps linked to the competition, Google Moon has had a big upgrade

From: http://www.spaceref.com/news/viewpr.html?pid=23559

"Updates include new content from the Apollo missions, including dozens of embedded panoramic images, links to audio clips and videos, and descriptions of the astronauts' activities during the missions. The new content is overlaid on updated, higher-resolution lunar maps. Also added are detailed charts of different regions of the moon suitable for use by anyone simulating a lunar mission. "

see for yourself here: http://moon.google.com

Cheers

Brian

[SkyeLab]

I originally posted this topic at the end of the Lunar X prize thread but thought on reflection perhaps it might be best here.

see full description and links here:

http://www.unmannedspaceflight.com/index.p...st&p=100189

cheers

Brian

Or even here. -- J

[Rybo]

what would be really nice is an application like google earth for roaming the moon, and maybe more planets.

Also, i wish there were more space exploration type games, where you could explore space and then set down on a planet and explore the flora and fauna.

Hell, if i ever win the lottery, i'm even gonna hire a team and devolop one myself.

[Thu]

what would be really nice is an application like google earth for roaming the moon, and maybe more planets.

Google has actually implemented Google Mars which contains many new images from MGS, MO and MRO. I would love to see Google Europa, Google Enceladus and Google Titan

[Poolio]

You might want to check out these URLs:
http://www.gelib.com/moon-overlays.htm
http://www.gearthhacks.com/downloads/country.php?country=32

There are a number of different overlays here for Google Earth, including the Moon, Titan, Mercury, Venus, and others. None of these are official Google products however, and they do have some quality issues to be sure. One big drawback is that they are not selectable from the "Planets" menu; they are Earth overlays, and therefore all measurements and distances will be incorrect.

Still, you might find them useful. At the very least you can kill some otherwise productive work hours doing something slightly more enjoyable. And if you're so inclined, they could possibly serve as a jumping off point for building your own enhancements.

[Phil Stooke]

A real Google Moon will have to wait for good topography, from LRO's altimeter (supplemented by other new altimetry data) combined with a new dataset being created from Apollo stereo and introduced at LPSC last week.

Phil

[Phil Stooke]

If you have Google Earth v. 5, you can now check out Google Moon from the 'planet' menu button... ! It's a nice start, and when more high resolution images can be added it will be a very nice tool. One or two bugs here and there but not very serious... primarily in the way images from the ASU website have been added. But the Apollo LROC images are there, and look good in 3D.

Phil

[Stu]

Oh well, that's it then. I'll never get ANY writing done now they've done that.