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Jul 24 2005, 02:13 PM
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Thought this article title was a little over the top, the kind of one you would
expect to see followed by lots of exclamation marks. Interesting article though. "IF LIFE exists on Titan, Saturn's biggest moon, we could soon know about it - as long as it's the methane-spewing variety. The chemical signature of microbial life could be hidden in readings taken by the European Space Agency's Huygens probe when it landed on Titan in January." http://www.newscientistspace.com/article.ns?id=dn7716 -------------------- Turn the middle side topwise....TOPWISE!!
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Jul 27 2005, 03:32 AM
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Actually, even if Mars doesn't pan out for the purpose, there's another way to try setting values for M besides the inspection of the outer planets' moons' suburface oceans: using Terrestrial Planet Finder and its successors to look directly for worlds that show signs of photosynthesis or of biological methanogenesis. (I'm not happy about the fact that Griffin -- along with cancelling Mars Telecom Orbiter -- just lopped $20 million out of the FY 06 funds for TPF, although I still think he probably had no choice.)
I've heard the argument used previously that the early appearance of life on Earth does provide significant positive evidence that the evolution of life on a suitable planet is more or less inevitable -- but, as has been noted above, this depends entirely on just how long on the average it takes intelligence to appear after life first appears. And that latter figure is so bloody uncertain that I really think it pretty much removes the early appearance of terrestrial life as a piece of usable evidence for the value of M. |
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jaredGalen New Scientist - Life On Titan Jul 24 2005, 02:13 PM
exoplanet I have always thought that even though the outer p... Jul 25 2005, 12:58 AM
JRehling QUOTE (exoplanet @ Jul 24 2005, 05:58 PM)I ha... Jul 25 2005, 03:32 AM
deglr6328 New Sensationalist publishing unverified highly sp... Jul 25 2005, 03:15 AM
exoplanet I quote JRheling:
"Consider that some of 200... Jul 25 2005, 05:05 AM
dvandorn QUOTE (exoplanet @ Jul 25 2005, 12:05 AM)...I... Jul 25 2005, 07:47 AM

alexiton Howdy Titanauts,
Isn't life more about organ... Jul 25 2005, 10:38 AM
JRehling QUOTE (exoplanet @ Jul 24 2005, 10:05 PM)I qu... Jul 25 2005, 11:01 PM
AndyG QUOTE (JRehling @ Jul 25 2005, 11:01 PM)a) We... Jul 26 2005, 09:03 AM
JRehling
Two things. One, of course, this sort of trend-a... Jul 26 2005, 05:04 PM
MacAndrew QUOTE (JRehling @ Jul 26 2005, 05:04 PM)Two t... Jul 27 2005, 12:51 AM
JRehling QUOTE (MacAndrew @ Jul 26 2005, 05:51 PM)To t... Jul 27 2005, 05:15 AM
AndyG QUOTE (JRehling @ Jul 27 2005, 05:15 AM)My as... Jul 28 2005, 11:56 AM

JRehling QUOTE (AndyG @ Jul 28 2005, 04:56 AM)Miller... Jul 28 2005, 01:54 PM

AndyG Interesting points! Thanks for raising them.
... Jul 28 2005, 03:21 PM

hendric QUOTE (JRehling @ Jul 28 2005, 01:54 PM)A ver... Jul 28 2005, 10:15 PM

JRehling QUOTE (hendric @ Jul 28 2005, 03:15 PM)This p... Jul 28 2005, 11:09 PM

hendric QUOTE (JRehling @ Jul 28 2005, 11:09 PM)But a... Aug 1 2005, 05:35 AM

JRehling QUOTE (hendric @ Jul 31 2005, 10:35 PM)Dumb q... Aug 1 2005, 03:25 PM

ljk4-1 What if the very body of Titan itself is alive?
H... Aug 2 2005, 02:25 PM

alexiton Truth is stranger than fact,
QUOTE (ljk4-1 ... Aug 3 2005, 10:43 AM
MacAndrew QUOTE (JRehling @ Jul 27 2005, 05:15 AM)That... Jul 29 2005, 02:30 PM
alexiton QUOTE (MacAndrew @ Jul 29 2005, 02:30 PM)Actu... Jul 29 2005, 03:35 PM
JRehling QUOTE (alexiton @ Jul 29 2005, 08:35 AM)bio-p... Jul 29 2005, 03:57 PM
Myran Yes, the Titan life forms would literally run for ... Jul 25 2005, 03:43 PM
mike If there was widespread concern about killing life... Jul 25 2005, 07:07 PM
Jeff7 Concerning the potential problem of a "superh... Jul 26 2005, 12:57 AM
exoplanet Hello All,
Great posts and thanks for the contrib... Jul 26 2005, 02:27 AM
mike I think life automatically arises on any body with... Jul 26 2005, 05:21 PM
JRehling QUOTE (mike @ Jul 26 2005, 10:21 AM)I think l... Jul 26 2005, 08:13 PM
Bob Shaw As for dinosaurs lacking in intelligence, surely n... Jul 26 2005, 09:56 PM

ElkGroveDan QUOTE (Bob Shaw @ Jul 26 2005, 09:56 PM)As fo... Jul 26 2005, 11:04 PM
mike QUOTE (JRehling @ Jul 26 2005, 12:13 PM)That... Jul 26 2005, 11:55 PM
volcanopele I take the middle ground really, basically that it... Jul 26 2005, 05:42 PM
kwp QUOTE (BruceMoomaw @ Jul 26 2005, 08:32 PM)I... Jul 27 2005, 07:05 PM
tty QUOTE (kwp @ Jul 27 2005, 09:05 PM)This argum... Jul 27 2005, 08:04 PM
BruceMoomaw Huygens' data on argon abudance in Titan's... Jul 27 2005, 08:15 PM
alexiton Chemistry Schemistry - too much focus on such thin... Jul 28 2005, 02:21 PM
TheChemist The chemical principles that were responsible for ... Jul 28 2005, 02:42 PM
alexiton Howdy TheChemist,
Life is a system not just mere ... Jul 28 2005, 03:53 PM
ilbasso Hey, let's not forget Herren Heisenberg and Sc... Jul 28 2005, 09:21 PM
MacAndrew QUOTE (ilbasso @ Jul 28 2005, 09:21 PM)Hey, l... Jul 29 2005, 02:38 PM
alexiton QUOTE (ilbasso @ Jul 28 2005, 09:21 PM)Hey, l... Jul 29 2005, 03:33 PM
mike QUOTE (alexiton @ Jul 29 2005, 07:33 AM)Ain... Jul 29 2005, 05:51 PM
deglr6328 Perhaps we needn't go right to virus proteins.... Jul 29 2005, 12:01 AM
Myran hendric said:
Also, primitive life, one would assu... Jul 29 2005, 05:08 PM
tty QUOTE (Myran @ Jul 29 2005, 07:08 PM)hendric ... Jul 29 2005, 07:42 PM
alexiton Howdy JRehling,
I register your points and sure e... Jul 29 2005, 06:07 PM
dvandorn Personally, I think that we will find biogenesis p... Jul 29 2005, 08:23 PM
David QUOTE (dvandorn @ Jul 29 2005, 08:23 PM)An Ea... Jul 29 2005, 09:43 PM
tty QUOTE (David @ Jul 29 2005, 11:43 PM)One clim... Jul 30 2005, 06:38 PM
Myran QUOTE tty said: I agree with the last paragraph, h... Jul 29 2005, 08:36 PM
Myran QUOTE tty said: Monera is not a term that is used ... Jul 30 2005, 07:46 PM
alexiton Howdy Titanauts,
delusions edited - apologies. Jul 31 2005, 09:06 PM
deglr6328 Image caption from your site:"Nth permute of ... Aug 1 2005, 01:29 AM
alexiton Howdy deglr6328,
Sure empirical truth is always m... Aug 1 2005, 08:51 AM
Decepticon "Study suggests Titan may hold keys for exoti... Sep 9 2005, 02:27 PM
imran An interview with David Grinspoon, who talks about... Sep 23 2005, 03:03 AM![]() ![]() |
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