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post Feb 6 2006, 03:45 PM
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QUOTE (David @ Feb 6 2006, 10:35 AM)
You know, planets were being defined and undefined and given names long before the IAU existed.  If the IAU insists on sitting on its hands for years and years, I think that astronomers and astronomy-buffs ought to take matters into their own hands and simply adopt a solution.  I suspect that the IAU committee have just been thinking too hard about the question.  I recommend a solution that required almost no thinking at all  laugh.gif  :

My solution is:
Our solar system has ten planets; they are Mercury, Venus, Earth, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, Neptune, Pluto and Proserpina.

The minimal amount of thought that went into it was this:

Pluto has been accepted as a planet for 76 years and that is unlikely to change regardless of what the IAU thinks;
If Pluto is a planet, there is no reason for 2003 UB313 not to be a planet, since it goes around the sun and is bigger than Pluto;
Therefore 2003 UB313 will be accepted as a planet.

I use the name Proserpina, because even though it wouldn't be my first choice for the name, discoverer Mike Brown has favored either Persephone or Proserpina, and Latin forms are preferred for planets.
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Plus you can now say "My Very Educated Mother Just Served Us Nine Pizzas Politely" or Punctually or Pleasantly.

But what happens when we find other KBOs bigger than Pluto and Proserpina, as I am sure we will? Better start using other mythologies besides the Greek:

http://www.pantheon.org/


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"After having some business dealings with men, I am occasionally chagrined,
and feel as if I had done some wrong, and it is hard to forget the ugly circumstance.
I see that such intercourse long continued would make one thoroughly prosaic, hard,
and coarse. But the longest intercourse with Nature, though in her rudest moods, does
not thus harden and make coarse. A hard, sensible man whom we liken to a rock is
indeed much harder than a rock. From hard, coarse, insensible men with whom I have
no sympathy, I go to commune with the rocks, whose hearts are comparatively soft."

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post Feb 15 2006, 03:23 PM
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Astrophysics, abstract
astro-ph/0602316

From: David E. Trilling [view email]

Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 19:52:04 GMT (484kb)

The Albedo, Size, and Density of Binary Kuiper Belt Object (47171) 1999 TC36

Authors: J.A. Stansberry, W.M. Grundy, J.L. Margot, D.P. Cruikshank, J. P. Emery, G.H. Rieke, D.E. Trilling

Comments: ApJ, in press (May, 2006)

We measured the system-integrated thermal emission of the binary Kuiper Belt Object 1999 TC36 at wavelengths near 24 and 70 microns using the Spitzer space telescope. We fit these data and the visual magnitude using both the Standard Thermal Model and thermophysical models. We find that the effective diameter of the binary is 405 km, with a range of 350 -- 470 km, and the effective visible geometric albedo for the system is 0.079 with a range of 0.055 -- 0.11. The binary orbit, magnitude contrast between the components, and system mass have been determined from HST data (Margot et al., 2004; 2005a; 2005b). Our effective diameter, combined with that system mass, indicate an average density for the objects of 0.5 g/cm3, with a range 0.3 -- 0.8 g/cm3. This density is low compared to that of materials expected to be abundant in solid bodies in the trans-Neptunian region, requiring 50 -- 75% of the interior of 1999 TC36 be taken up by void space. This conclusion is not greatly affected if 1999 TC36 is ``differentiated'' (in the sense of having either a rocky or just a non-porous core). If the primary is itself a binary, the average density of that (hypothetical) triple system would be in the range 0.4 -- 1.1 g/cm3, with a porosity in the range 15 -- 70%.

http://arxiv.org/abs/astro-ph/0602316


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"After having some business dealings with men, I am occasionally chagrined,
and feel as if I had done some wrong, and it is hard to forget the ugly circumstance.
I see that such intercourse long continued would make one thoroughly prosaic, hard,
and coarse. But the longest intercourse with Nature, though in her rudest moods, does
not thus harden and make coarse. A hard, sensible man whom we liken to a rock is
indeed much harder than a rock. From hard, coarse, insensible men with whom I have
no sympathy, I go to commune with the rocks, whose hearts are comparatively soft."

- Henry David Thoreau, November 15, 1853

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