IPB
X   Site Message
(Message will auto close in 2 seconds)

Welcome Guest ( Log In | Register )

The Grasshopper, Another Zubrin Trick!
Cugel
post Aug 8 2005, 02:47 PM
Post #1


Member
***

Group: Members
Posts: 153
Joined: 11-December 04
Member No.: 120



space.com

A pretty cool application of Zubrins In-Situ Propellant Production machine.
I'd love to see some more figures of it... how much cargo does it carry?
How far can it fly? How does it land safely? When do we ship it to Mars?
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
 
Start new topic
Replies
Guest_BruceMoomaw_*
post Feb 6 2006, 09:38 PM
Post #2





Guests






The current plan -- as I think I've stated -- is to have either the blimp or a wind-blown balloon hover about 100 meters above the surface while dropping a tiny sampling harpoon on a cable and then immediately reeling it back up. Other blimp designs however, have involved protracted landings -- and in those, the blimp is partially deflated to give it negative buoyancy. (There has even been a strange "Aerover" concept in which a rover has three or four huge helium-inflated tires that give it partial buoyancy while it rolls along the surface -- plus an additional relatively small envelope that is inflated to allow it to actually lift off the ground.)
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
ljk4-1
post Feb 6 2006, 10:05 PM
Post #3


Senior Member
****

Group: Members
Posts: 2454
Joined: 8-July 05
From: NGC 5907
Member No.: 430



QUOTE (BruceMoomaw @ Feb 6 2006, 04:38 PM)
The current plan -- as I think I've stated -- is to have either the blimp or a wind-blown balloon hover about 100 meters above the surface while dropping a tiny sampling harpoon on a cable and then immediately reeling it back up.  Other blimp designs however, have involved protracted landings -- and in those, the blimp is partially deflated to give it negative buoyancy.  (There has even been a strange "Aerover" concept in which a rover has three or four huge helium-inflated tires that give it partial buoyancy while it rolls along the surface -- plus an additional relatively small envelope that is inflated to allow it to actually lift off the ground.)
*


What is so odd about that concept? Practical considerations aside, just imagine what it would do for getting the monster truck crowd interested in space exploration!

http://uplink.space.com/attachments/129544...eled-rover4.JPG

http://images.ksc.nasa.gov/photos/1972/cap...C-72P-0210.html

http://ails.arc.nasa.gov/Images/Space/G72-0411.html

http://www.isd.mel.nist.gov/projects/roboc...unar_rover.html

http://ranier.hq.nasa.gov/Telerobotics_pag...lan/Chap2e.html

http://www.astronautix.com/craft/chirbase.htm

http://www.marks4wd.com/images/Monster%20T...gh%202000-3.JPG


--------------------
"After having some business dealings with men, I am occasionally chagrined,
and feel as if I had done some wrong, and it is hard to forget the ugly circumstance.
I see that such intercourse long continued would make one thoroughly prosaic, hard,
and coarse. But the longest intercourse with Nature, though in her rudest moods, does
not thus harden and make coarse. A hard, sensible man whom we liken to a rock is
indeed much harder than a rock. From hard, coarse, insensible men with whom I have
no sympathy, I go to commune with the rocks, whose hearts are comparatively soft."

- Henry David Thoreau, November 15, 1853

Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post

Posts in this topic
- Cugel   The Grasshopper   Aug 8 2005, 02:47 PM
- - Bob Shaw   QUOTE (Cugel @ Aug 8 2005, 03:47 PM)space.com...   Aug 8 2005, 03:22 PM
- - djellison   Titan is just gliding nirvana Doug   Aug 8 2005, 03:26 PM
|- - DEChengst   QUOTE (djellison @ Aug 8 2005, 05:26 PM)Titan...   Aug 8 2005, 04:15 PM
|- - Bob Shaw   QUOTE (DEChengst @ Aug 8 2005, 05:15 PM)I gue...   Aug 8 2005, 04:46 PM
- - BruceMoomaw   Yep. From the just-completed 3rd Inernational Pla...   Aug 9 2005, 01:00 AM
- - Cugel   It is actually called a GAShopper. Not a grasshopp...   Aug 9 2005, 09:26 AM
- - Richard Trigaux   RTG produce nuclear wastes. Most probably we shall...   Aug 9 2005, 10:04 AM
- - algorimancer   //I am, as many, very frustrated by the undecipher...   Aug 9 2005, 01:09 PM
|- - Richard Trigaux   QUOTE (algorimancer @ Aug 9 2005, 01:09 PM)I...   Aug 9 2005, 04:20 PM
- - Richard Trigaux   You in the US you have Zubrin, but we in France we...   Aug 9 2005, 04:22 PM
- - Richard Trigaux   How to fly on Titan? Gas baloon? hot air baloon? a...   Aug 10 2005, 03:08 PM
|- - Bob Shaw   QUOTE (Richard Trigaux @ Aug 10 2005, 04:08 P...   Aug 10 2005, 07:37 PM
|- - Richard Trigaux   QUOTE (Bob Shaw @ Aug 10 2005, 07:37 PM)Richa...   Aug 11 2005, 07:57 AM
|- - Bob Shaw   QUOTE (Richard Trigaux @ Aug 11 2005, 08:57 A...   Aug 11 2005, 10:53 AM
|- - Bob Shaw   QUOTE (Bob Shaw @ Aug 11 2005, 11:53 AM)Richa...   Aug 16 2005, 04:14 PM
|- - ljk4-1   "Previously announced cancellation of the liq...   Feb 6 2006, 07:40 PM
- - RNeuhaus   The other challange to manage a flying object on V...   Aug 10 2005, 05:20 PM
|- - Richard Trigaux   QUOTE (RNeuhaus @ Aug 10 2005, 05:20 PM)The o...   Aug 11 2005, 07:42 AM
|- - RNeuhaus   QUOTE (Richard Trigaux @ Aug 11 2005, 02:42 A...   Aug 16 2005, 03:17 PM
- - BruceMoomaw   QUOTE (RNeuhaus @ Aug 16 2005, 03:17 PM)Richa...   Feb 6 2006, 08:54 PM
- - RNeuhaus   That would be good. Hope that Zepellin balloon wou...   Feb 6 2006, 09:00 PM
- - BruceMoomaw   The current plan -- as I think I've stated -- ...   Feb 6 2006, 09:38 PM
- - ljk4-1   QUOTE (BruceMoomaw @ Feb 6 2006, 04:38 PM)The...   Feb 6 2006, 10:05 PM


Reply to this topicStart new topic

 



RSS Lo-Fi Version Time is now: 16th December 2024 - 05:36 AM
RULES AND GUIDELINES
Please read the Forum Rules and Guidelines before posting.

IMAGE COPYRIGHT
Images posted on UnmannedSpaceflight.com may be copyrighted. Do not reproduce without permission. Read here for further information on space images and copyright.

OPINIONS AND MODERATION
Opinions expressed on UnmannedSpaceflight.com are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily reflect the opinions of UnmannedSpaceflight.com or The Planetary Society. The all-volunteer UnmannedSpaceflight.com moderation team is wholly independent of The Planetary Society. The Planetary Society has no influence over decisions made by the UnmannedSpaceflight.com moderators.
SUPPORT THE FORUM
Unmannedspaceflight.com is funded by the Planetary Society. Please consider supporting our work and many other projects by donating to the Society or becoming a member.