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Aug 17 2005, 06:10 PM
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Bunch of MI's of the "rind" (mentioned in Steve Squyres' latest mission update), I believe, starting with this one:
http://nasa.exploratorium.edu/mars/opportu...DIP2956M2M1.JPG Forward hazcam: http://nasa.exploratorium.edu/mars/opportu...DIP1110L0M1.JPG |
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Aug 17 2005, 07:14 PM
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I wager that Mars has had a more interesting history than anyone has necessarily imagined thus far.. Perhaps it was Earth, just a few billion years earlier and terminated before it had space-faring beasties. Then again, maybe it had space-faring beasties, and all their Earth-sent probes have since been obliterated. Earth would have been rather uninteresting compared to Mars back then.
How about this, Earth was going along pretty well, then whatever gave us the Moon hit Earth, and voila, set us back a few hundred million years or so. Mars on the other hand keeps cranking, and hey, Deimos and Phobos aren't huge, but neither is Mars, so surely they would induce some sort of decent tidal effects (thought to be important to the formation of life on Earth, by me if no one else). But then, the sun cools down, Mars' lower gravity isn't enough, and it all disappears, or freezes onto the surface, or both, and next comes Earth. As the sun cools down further (before going red giant..), I imagine Earth's climate will change quite noticeably and Venus will cool down etc. etc. etc. And if I'm wrong about the current ideas of star formation (perhaps stars start cold and get hotter and hotter until they go red giant, eh?), then guess what, THEY'RE ALL WRONG. But in that case I'll couch my bets and just say that Venus was once Earth and Mars will be Earth soon enough. Except that we don't have any probes on Venus (yet) so I don't find that as exciting right now. Once we find those ancient Martian tools a few feet beneath the surface, you'll all know I was right. |
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Aug 17 2005, 08:36 PM
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QUOTE (mike @ Aug 17 2005, 02:14 PM) As the sun cools down further (before going red giant..), I imagine Earth's climate will change quite noticeably and Venus will cool down etc. etc. etc. Actually, I think the current thinking on main sequence stellar evolution is that the sun is expected to increase slowly... but continuously, in luminosity over the next few billion years. In fact, the earth would probably become uninhabitable due to this effect long before the sun reaches the red giant stage. (I think it has to do with the fact that the hydrogen "burning" keeps progressing out in a layer from the center... which becomes too helium-rich for efficient nuclear fusion). |
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mhoward Checking Out The Rind Aug 17 2005, 06:10 PM
mhoward The area being checked out is to the left of this ... Aug 17 2005, 06:17 PM
Sunspot I'm assuming this area has had the RAT Brush a... Aug 17 2005, 08:40 PM
um3k QUOTE (Sunspot @ Aug 17 2005, 04:40 PM)I... Aug 17 2005, 09:27 PM
atomoid QUOTE (Sunspot @ Aug 17 2005, 08:40 PM)I... Aug 18 2005, 12:31 AM
Bill Harris We're starting to see some interesting things ... Aug 19 2005, 02:20 PM
abalone Where have all the blueberries go, seems to be onl... Aug 20 2005, 10:50 PM
slinted Here's a falsecolor view on the double RAT act... Aug 26 2005, 05:25 AM
CosmicRocker Excellent image, slinted. This is getting interes... Aug 26 2005, 07:20 AM
stevo QUOTE (CosmicRocker @ Aug 26 2005, 02:20 AM)H... Aug 26 2005, 05:09 PM
Bob Shaw QUOTE (stevo @ Aug 26 2005, 06:09 PM)We proba... Sep 1 2005, 09:04 PM
David In the news conference, Steve Squyres has said tha... Sep 1 2005, 05:34 PM
stevo QUOTE (David @ Sep 1 2005, 12:34 PM)In the ne... Sep 1 2005, 05:56 PM
stevo QUOTE (Bob Shaw @ Sep 1 2005, 04:04 PM)Stevo:... Sep 1 2005, 10:22 PM
Bill Harris Here is an interesting rind which appears to be di... Sep 5 2005, 08:38 PM
Myran QUOTE Bill Harris said: The "Bugs and Buds... Sep 5 2005, 09:34 PM
Bill Harris No, a hedgehog would be too sane and rational.
... Sep 5 2005, 09:39 PM
RNeuhaus QUOTE (Bill Harris @ Sep 5 2005, 04:39 PM)I... Sep 6 2005, 03:56 PM
CosmicRocker I see what you mean. At first it almost resembled... Sep 6 2005, 02:20 AM
CosmicRocker I noticed another anomalous feature from the Sol 5... Sep 6 2005, 03:21 AM
Bill Harris QUOTE At first it almost resembled a fossil skull.... Sep 6 2005, 09:48 AM
Bill Harris Here is a Rear Hazcam of the Sol574 "wrinkled... Sep 7 2005, 12:34 PM
CosmicRocker Thanks, Bill. I missed the hazcam images. It doe... Sep 8 2005, 04:42 AM
alan Now that looks odd
http://qt.exploratorium.edu/mar... Sep 9 2005, 09:54 PM
Bob Shaw QUOTE (alan @ Sep 9 2005, 10:54 PM)Now that l... Sep 9 2005, 10:31 PM
David QUOTE (Bob Shaw @ Sep 9 2005, 10:31 PM)Alan:
... Sep 9 2005, 10:45 PM
Bill Harris I saw that and said "Hmmmm... odd". And... Sep 9 2005, 10:59 PM
stevo I think you're right, she drove over a rock an... Sep 9 2005, 11:18 PM
RNeuhaus QUOTE (stevo @ Sep 9 2005, 06:18 PM)IThat roc... Sep 10 2005, 02:37 AM
Bill Harris Remember, Oppy's right wheel has the bad steer... Sep 10 2005, 03:21 AM
hank http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/all...84P22... Sep 12 2005, 10:01 AM
Bill Harris http://www.unmannedspaceflight.com/index.p...topic... Sep 12 2005, 10:54 AM
stevo Can someone explain this one ?
http://qt.explorato... Sep 23 2005, 02:18 PM
SigurRosFan Airbag mark ... that image is 19 months (or so) ol... Sep 23 2005, 02:24 PM
mhoward The image is from Sol 3. The real mystery is why i... Sep 23 2005, 02:29 PM
dilo Great stratigraphy for the weekend!
http:/... Sep 23 2005, 04:35 PM
dilo 3D crossed-eyes/anaglyph versions.
The big BB i... Sep 23 2005, 04:50 PM
tty QUOTE (dilo @ Sep 23 2005, 06:35 PM)Great str... Sep 23 2005, 05:51 PM
Bob Shaw QUOTE (tty @ Sep 23 2005, 06:51 PM)The layers... Sep 23 2005, 08:10 PM
stevo Ah, I wondered about that. Not so far off a beach... Sep 23 2005, 02:29 PM
Tesheiner Yesterday, a lot of pictures part of the "mis... Sep 23 2005, 02:29 PM
ElkGroveDan QUOTE (Tesheiner @ Sep 23 2005, 02:29 PM)Yest... Sep 23 2005, 05:00 PM
mike Most of these old images had pieces missing, so I ... Sep 23 2005, 05:07 PM
SigurRosFan Wow! New stunning image from Oppy!
Grea... Sep 23 2005, 05:36 PM
mike Hmm, thinking more about the missing areas on the ... Sep 23 2005, 07:29 PM
Tesheiner QUOTE (mike @ Sep 23 2005, 09:29 PM)Hmm, thin... Sep 23 2005, 08:44 PM
Bill Harris QUOTE Great finding, Dilo!!
And new stran... Sep 23 2005, 09:42 PM
SigurRosFan Steve Squyres Update: September 23
http://athena... Sep 23 2005, 10:17 PM
Joffan "cut straight across"... my first reacti... Sep 23 2005, 11:09 PM
Of counsel Hmm . . . I'm not finding the new Steve Squyr... Sep 23 2005, 11:46 PM
alan sometimes using this version of the link helps
htt... Sep 24 2005, 03:13 AM
dvandorn One the negative side, these rocks are all jumbled... Sep 24 2005, 08:04 AM![]() ![]() |
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