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Aug 21 2005, 11:53 PM
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I found the following teaser lead-in on Aerospace Daily's web site (you have to subscribe to get the whole thing, and I don't have that kind of money!):
Mars Scout Program To Seek More Money For 2011 Mission Aerospace Daily & Defense Report 08/22/2005 NASA's Mars Scout program is seeking more money in its fiscal 2007 budget request to allow for the per-mission cost cap to be raised from its original level of $325 million to a level above $400 million. "I've recognized that that is an inadequate amount of money to get a reasonable-risk mission to Mars," Mars Exploration Program Director Doug McCuistion told The DAILY. "It's just not as cheap as flying low-Earth orbit stuff. And therefore I intend to increase the cap over what it was." |
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Aug 22 2005, 05:46 PM
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Now, there's an idea -- a Mars orbiter with a synthetic aperature radar, a really *huge* fat data pipe back to Earth, and a big gas tank for orbital maneuvering. Put it into a Molniya-type orbit around Mars (very high apoares, very low periares) with the high point over the MSL landing site. Do really good SAR work on the low point of the orbit and use the thing as a relay for MSL during its long climb and fall to/from its high point.
Use the really big gas tank to change its line of nodes on occasion, to change the area where the periares occurs and maximize the usefulness of the SAR. After all, you can shift the low point of such an orbit quite a bit and still keep it high in the sky over nearly half of the planet, most of the time. Oh, and postpone MSL from 2009 to 2011, and then you have the proper telecom relay *and* good SAR capability at Mars. -the other Doug -------------------- “The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right.” -Mark Twain
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vjkane2000 Mars Scout 2011 Aug 21 2005, 11:53 PM
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vjkane2000 I expect that we'll see fewer but pricier (and... Aug 22 2005, 02:33 PM
djellison Here's a challenge - what would you propose to... Aug 22 2005, 02:52 PM
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BruceMoomaw SCIM would be high on my list, too. But I don... Aug 23 2005, 05:00 AM
Redstone The full text of the article is now available at A... Aug 23 2005, 01:26 PM
djellison I like SCIM a lot - but I have worries over our kn... Aug 23 2005, 02:40 PM
gpurcell QUOTE (djellison @ Aug 23 2005, 02:40 PM)Of c... Aug 23 2005, 05:54 PM
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djellison Personally, I like the concept of SCIM if they try... Jan 24 2006, 09:01 AM
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vjkane2000 I am at the AGU conference in San Francisco to pre... Dec 13 2006, 02:06 AM
edstrick That may also be similar to a proposed lunar orbit... Dec 13 2006, 11:32 AM
remcook Doesn't GRACE require very precise orbit deter... Dec 13 2006, 11:40 AM
vjkane2000 No magnetometer. I think that to measure the remn... Dec 13 2006, 02:50 PM
remcook QUOTE (vjkane2000 @ Dec 13 2006, 02:50 PM... Dec 13 2006, 03:25 PM
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tuvas After reading through these posts, I'm of the ... Jan 8 2007, 10:24 PM
Mariner9 Just so I'm clear on this: unless I missed it... Jan 9 2007, 01:09 AM
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Bob Shaw Here's the NASA Press Release:
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AlexBlackwell QUOTE (Bob Shaw @ Jan 8 2007, 03:23 PM) Q... Jan 10 2007, 01:25 AM
AlexBlackwell QUOTE (AlexBlackwell @ Jan 9 2007, 03:25 ... Feb 9 2007, 06:48 PM
AlexBlackwell QUOTE (AlexBlackwell @ Feb 9 2007, 08:48 ... Feb 27 2007, 07:08 PM
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djellison Suprising - I would have though the MCO+MO2K1 bus ... Jan 9 2007, 01:30 PM
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AlexBlackwell QUOTE (Analyst @ Jan 11 2007, 08:41 AM) T... Jan 11 2007, 06:46 PM
Analyst Great, way it should be. Jan 11 2007, 06:52 PM
simonbp Though either of these two would probably be in a ... Jan 13 2007, 04:10 PM
Zvezdichko http://www.marsdaily.com/reports/Europe_Fa...issio... Feb 9 2007, 07:37 PM
AlexBlackwell A couple of recent additions to the Mars Scout Acq... Feb 21 2007, 01:49 AM
monitorlizard mepag.jpl.nasa.gov/Announcements/index.html
Above... Dec 5 2007, 09:52 AM
Mariner9 Announcement today that Mars Scout has been pushed... Dec 21 2007, 07:12 PM
JRehling I can't think of a reason why they couldn... Dec 21 2007, 10:25 PM
nprev (sigh)...this is becoming endemic throughout the U... Dec 21 2007, 07:28 PM
PDP8E here is another link
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/2... Dec 21 2007, 07:44 PM
Mariner9 The two Mars Scout canidates that were under final... Dec 21 2007, 11:45 PM
nprev I have the same concerns. It's not just up-fro... Dec 22 2007, 12:04 AM
centsworth_II QUOTE (nprev @ Dec 21 2007, 07:04 PM) IMH... Dec 22 2007, 05:22 PM
JRehling In principle, missing a launch to prevent conflict... Dec 23 2007, 11:01 PM
monitorlizard I am disappointed that there will be no 2011 Mars ... Dec 22 2007, 03:25 AM
djellison Overly emotional, accusatory, inflammatory or supe... Dec 22 2007, 09:59 AM
J.J. ^
Not much, probably; IIRC, the 2011 window will b... Dec 22 2007, 10:25 PM
djellison Also - given that MSL is already nudging it's ... Dec 22 2007, 10:46 PM
dsmillman I caught the beginning of the teleconference on De... Dec 23 2007, 06:12 PM
vjkane I agree with John -- opening this up to litigation... Dec 24 2007, 04:15 AM
nprev The problem, though, is that protests are becoming... Dec 24 2007, 04:40 AM
vjkane QUOTE (nprev @ Dec 24 2007, 04:40 AM) The... Dec 24 2007, 08:51 AM
tty QUOTE (nprev @ Dec 24 2007, 05:40 AM) The... Dec 24 2007, 10:24 AM
nprev I like that, TTY. 3 months--no extensions--final d... Dec 24 2007, 03:14 PM![]() ![]() |
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