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Aerobot Aims For Titan
imran
post Sep 3 2005, 04:31 AM
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Aerobot aims for Titan

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An intelligent floating robot could help to explore Saturn's moon Titan, following flight tests that prove it can survey large areas of land completely autonomously. The aerobot is even smart enough to avoid dangerous turbulence.


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This summer, aerobot's team got further funding to develop a full mission proposal, which may lead to a launch in 2012.


Good news and I hope this happens but a more realistic timeframe is late next decade, more likely after an Europa mission.
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post Oct 6 2005, 10:14 PM
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A thought: if -- as the new Langley study suggests -- a flat-out
Titan aerobot mission that would cruise along and periodically scoop up
surface samples for organic analysis is indeed prohibitively expensive at $2
to $2.5 billion, would a lower-cost mission be worthwhile consisting of a
stationary lander that touches down on one such dome -- where we're most
likely to find complex water-created organics -- combined with a small
passive balloon that drifts along providing aerial images of Titan's
surface? We clearly need much better images of its surface formations than
we're going to get from either Cassini or Huygens in order to properly
understand this place. (Relaying back images from the latter without a Titan orbiter, however, might be unworkable.)
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post Oct 26 2005, 04:56 PM
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Here are the two Titan Mission Concepts presented at the OPAG meeting thanks to the link posted by Bruce:

Titan Vision Study 1
Titan Vision Study 2

Lunine is suggesting a self-propelled airship that would fit within the New Frontier Mission cost cap of ~$750M. This price tag I believe would leave out an orbiter. Langley is proposing a similar airship that includes an orbiter. This of course would fall under the Flagship Mission cost cap, although Langley doesn't provide an estimate on the cost except that it exceeds the $700M limit. The general consensus is to go with some sort of aerial platform, most likely an airship or blimp. The question is whether there will be a complementary orbiter, which I think is necessary because we need high resolution global coverage of Titan. They need to find a way to somehow bring the total cost down to $1.5B or less from the original $2-2.5B estimate.
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- imran   Aerobot Aims For Titan   Sep 3 2005, 04:31 AM
- - Richard Trigaux   The ideas for a flying probe were already discusse...   Sep 3 2005, 06:50 AM
- - BruceMoomaw   The Solar System Roadmap has this one pretty firml...   Sep 3 2005, 10:21 AM
|- - imran   Some related news today: QUOTE A recent study per...   Oct 3 2005, 07:10 PM
- - BruceMoomaw   That price tag is ominous -- the Solar System Stra...   Oct 4 2005, 05:01 AM
- - Richard Trigaux   mmmmh ... alway the problem of cost. Let us say: ...   Oct 4 2005, 08:23 AM
|- - JRehling   QUOTE (Richard Trigaux @ Oct 4 2005, 01:23 AM...   Oct 4 2005, 01:42 PM
|- - Bob Shaw   QUOTE (JRehling @ Oct 4 2005, 02:42 PM)Unfort...   Oct 4 2005, 02:10 PM
||- - Richard Trigaux   QUOTE (Bob Shaw @ Oct 4 2005, 02:10 PM)Which ...   Oct 4 2005, 04:46 PM
|- - Richard Trigaux   QUOTE (JRehling @ Oct 4 2005, 01:42 PM)I thin...   Oct 4 2005, 04:49 PM
|- - imran   QUOTE (Richard Trigaux @ Oct 4 2005, 04:49 PM...   Oct 4 2005, 06:28 PM
- - BruceMoomaw   A thought: if -- as the new Langley study suggests...   Oct 6 2005, 10:14 PM
|- - imran   Here are the two Titan Mission Concepts presented ...   Oct 26 2005, 04:56 PM
|- - JRehling   QUOTE (imran @ Oct 26 2005, 09:56 AM)The ques...   Oct 27 2005, 02:29 AM
- - BruceMoomaw   I intend to do a little more grilling of the OPAG ...   Oct 27 2005, 01:27 AM
- - edstrick   JHReling asks: "Can an orbiter do high resol...   Oct 27 2005, 05:00 AM
- - BruceMoomaw   One problem with mapping Titan via aerobot: the wi...   Oct 27 2005, 07:07 AM
|- - ljk4-1   QUOTE (BruceMoomaw @ Oct 27 2005, 02:07 AM)On...   Oct 27 2005, 01:57 PM
||- - imran   QUOTE (ljk4-1 @ Oct 27 2005, 01:57 PM)I ...   Oct 27 2005, 04:48 PM
|- - JRehling   QUOTE (BruceMoomaw @ Oct 27 2005, 12:07 AM)On...   Oct 27 2005, 03:56 PM
|- - hendric   QUOTE (JRehling @ Oct 27 2005, 09:56 AM)I thi...   Oct 27 2005, 09:55 PM
- - dvandorn   I still wonder whether or not we ought to be caref...   Oct 27 2005, 05:15 PM
- - mike   On the other hand, waste heat may eventually lead ...   Oct 27 2005, 07:11 PM
|- - JRehling   QUOTE (mike @ Oct 27 2005, 12:11 PM)On the ot...   Oct 27 2005, 07:45 PM
|- - ljk4-1   QUOTE (JRehling @ Oct 27 2005, 02:45 PM)I...   Oct 27 2005, 08:01 PM
||- - JRehling   QUOTE (ljk4-1 @ Oct 27 2005, 01:01 PM)So...   Oct 27 2005, 09:26 PM
|- - mike   One could argue that Titan has conceivably not exp...   Oct 27 2005, 09:50 PM
|- - JRehling   QUOTE (mike @ Oct 27 2005, 02:50 PM)One could...   Oct 27 2005, 10:26 PM
- - BruceMoomaw   Yes -- biogenesis ain't THAT automatic and qui...   Oct 27 2005, 10:37 PM
- - mike   I'll say heat + some other unrecognized variab...   Oct 28 2005, 12:37 AM
- - BruceMoomaw   It's also not "utterly impossible" t...   Oct 28 2005, 01:29 AM
|- - JRehling   QUOTE (BruceMoomaw @ Oct 27 2005, 06:29 PM)So...   Oct 28 2005, 05:17 AM
- - mike   I suppose the only real way to know is to wait and...   Oct 28 2005, 02:10 AM
- - mike   Once you can prove beyond a doubt that something i...   Oct 28 2005, 02:59 PM
|- - JRehling   QUOTE (mike @ Oct 28 2005, 07:59 AM)Once you ...   Oct 28 2005, 04:07 PM
- - tty   Having some experience with helicopters I would sa...   Oct 28 2005, 04:53 PM
- - dvandorn   Just to clarify my comments in re a relatively sup...   Oct 28 2005, 06:57 PM
|- - ljk4-1   How about a "tumbleweed" rover for Titan...   Oct 28 2005, 07:04 PM
|- - JRehling   QUOTE (dvandorn @ Oct 28 2005, 11:57 AM)Let...   Oct 28 2005, 08:30 PM
||- - Bob Shaw   Before the debate about UD ('Unintelligent Des...   Oct 28 2005, 11:09 PM
|- - tty   QUOTE (dvandorn @ Oct 28 2005, 08:57 PM)Just ...   Oct 29 2005, 04:35 PM
|- - JRehling   QUOTE (tty @ Oct 29 2005, 09:35 AM)The simple...   Oct 29 2005, 05:46 PM
|- - helvick   QUOTE (JRehling @ Oct 29 2005, 06:46 PM)That ...   Oct 29 2005, 10:50 PM
- - mike   I agree, we should seek to avoid doing widespread ...   Oct 28 2005, 07:20 PM
|- - ljk4-1   QUOTE (mike @ Oct 28 2005, 02:20 PM)I agree, ...   Oct 28 2005, 07:25 PM
|- - dvandorn   QUOTE (ljk4-1 @ Oct 28 2005, 02:25 PM).....   Oct 28 2005, 07:30 PM
- - BruceMoomaw   Yeah, that is a possibility -- and one I had never...   Oct 29 2005, 01:15 AM
- - BruceMoomaw   You can't, and they're not going to try --...   Oct 30 2005, 12:52 AM
- - ngunn   Time to refloat this topic? http://planetary.org/b...   May 8 2006, 11:25 AM
|- - imran   Found this article interesting. Mars, Venus, Tita...   May 22 2006, 06:05 PM
|- - Bob Shaw   QUOTE (imran @ May 22 2006, 07:05 PM) Fou...   May 22 2006, 07:03 PM
|- - climber   [quote name='Bob Shaw' date='May 22 20...   May 22 2006, 07:43 PM
- - ljk4-1   Here is one way for astronauts to get around on Ti...   May 24 2006, 05:22 PM


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