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post Sep 14 2005, 09:26 PM
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biggrin.gif Here is the Venera 13 fully calibrated image, produced from raw imaging 3-filters data (note the 3 horizons at left well discernible). It was published inside "L'Astronomie Magazine" of Societe Astronomique de France.
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post Sep 24 2005, 05:05 AM
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tedstryk I was wondering if you have ever edited the image so it would look as if I was standing on Venus?

I once saw a image like it in astronomy magazine but it was small.
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post Sep 24 2005, 12:33 PM
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QUOTE (Decepticon @ Sep 24 2005, 05:05 AM)
tedstryk I was wondering if you have ever edited the image so it would look as if I was standing on Venus?

I once saw a image like it in astronomy magazine but it was small.
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Other than these, I have found that frustrating. In addition to the wierd projection in terms of its shape, the fact that the camera turned so much as it scanned creat the appearance of everything being right in front of you. I remember an issue of Astronomy with some Venera images back in the late 1980s, but I think it was just the Venera 14 camera 1 picture that they showed.


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post Sep 24 2005, 02:48 PM
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QUOTE (tedstryk @ Sep 24 2005, 01:33 PM)
Other than  these, I have found that frustrating.  In addition to the wierd projection in terms of its shape, the fact that the camera turned so much as it scanned creat the appearance of everything being right in front of you.  I remember an issue of Astronomy with some Venera images back in the late 1980s, but I think it was just the Venera 14 camera 1 picture that they showed.
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The Soviets were very keen on 'epiphotography' - images made with a rotating turret and a slit rather than a traditional 'eye' design. They famously marketed the Horizont 35mm camera in the West which worked in this way, and is now a collectors item - it moved not only the optical barrel but the film as well, and you ended up with (I think) a 2X normal length negative. The geometry of such images - like those from the Viking Landers - is strange. All the data is there, but it all looks somehow *wrong*, as the perspective doesn't do what you expect. Such cameras were once very popular for school photographs, and produced a very high quality and long format print. Their mechanisms were sometimes slow enough for kids to race away behind the camera, come in from the other side, and be photographed twice!


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post Sep 24 2005, 04:02 PM
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QUOTE (Bob Shaw @ Sep 24 2005, 09:48 AM)
...Such cameras were once very popular for school photographs, and produced a very high quality and long format print. Their mechanisms were sometimes slow enough for kids to race away behind the camera, come in from the other side, and be photographed twice!
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As you could with the Viking cameras. There is an official Viking Imaging Team portrait out there somewhere, taken with one of the Viking cameras. At least one person appears in the picture three times. Several others appear in it twice.

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QUOTE (dvandorn @ Sep 24 2005, 04:02 PM)
There is an official Viking Imaging Team portrait out there somewhere, taken with one of the Viking cameras.  At least one person appears in the picture three times.  Several others appear in it twice.

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I've seen a larger version, and I think that actually, the guy who's on the bottom row - is on the image about 6 times

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- vikingmars   Venera Images   Sep 14 2005, 09:26 PM
- - Decepticon   Wow! Nice work.   Sep 14 2005, 09:31 PM
- - um3k   Very nice!   Sep 14 2005, 10:07 PM
- - hal_9000   WoW!   Sep 14 2005, 10:25 PM
- - gpurcell   QUOTE (vikingmars @ Sep 14 2005, 09:26 PM) He...   Sep 14 2005, 10:36 PM
- - tedstryk   QUOTE (vikingmars @ Sep 14 2005, 09:26 PM) He...   Sep 15 2005, 12:18 AM
- - vikingmars   Dear Tedstryk, Yes, indeed, I had to reconstruct s...   Sep 15 2005, 07:18 AM
|- - tedstryk   QUOTE (vikingmars @ Sep 15 2005, 07:18 AM) De...   Sep 15 2005, 02:31 PM
|- - tedstryk   I have updated one of my mosaics from Venera 13. ...   Sep 19 2005, 05:17 PM
- - Decepticon   Now thats cool!   Sep 19 2005, 09:45 PM
- - GregM   .   Sep 24 2005, 03:39 AM
- - Decepticon   tedstryk I was wondering if you have ever edited t...   Sep 24 2005, 05:05 AM
|- - tedstryk   QUOTE (Decepticon @ Sep 24 2005, 05:05 AM)ted...   Sep 24 2005, 12:33 PM
||- - Bob Shaw   QUOTE (tedstryk @ Sep 24 2005, 01:33 PM)Other...   Sep 24 2005, 02:48 PM
||- - dvandorn   QUOTE (Bob Shaw @ Sep 24 2005, 09:48 AM)...Su...   Sep 24 2005, 04:02 PM
||- - djellison   QUOTE (dvandorn @ Sep 24 2005, 04:02 PM)There...   Sep 24 2005, 04:05 PM
||- - Bob Shaw   QUOTE (djellison @ Sep 24 2005, 05:05 PM)I...   Sep 24 2005, 05:09 PM
|- - JRehling   QUOTE (Decepticon @ Sep 23 2005, 10:05 PM)ted...   Sep 24 2005, 04:39 PM
- - vikingmars   Looking again closely at the Venera 13 camera 1 ra...   Oct 4 2005, 08:00 PM
|- - ljk4-1   QUOTE (vikingmars @ Oct 4 2005, 03:00 PM) Loo...   Oct 4 2005, 08:29 PM
|- - Bob Shaw   QUOTE (vikingmars @ Oct 4 2005, 09:00 PM)And ...   Oct 4 2005, 10:50 PM
- - vikingmars   ...and I forgot to show you how the camera 1 pan l...   Oct 4 2005, 08:21 PM
- - vikingmars   Well ljk4-1... I don't know about the "Ve...   Oct 4 2005, 08:50 PM
|- - tedstryk   QUOTE (vikingmars @ Oct 4 2005, 08:50 PM) Wel...   Oct 4 2005, 08:59 PM
|- - ljk4-1   QUOTE (vikingmars @ Oct 4 2005, 03:50 PM) Wel...   Oct 4 2005, 09:03 PM
|- - tedstryk   QUOTE (ljk4-1 @ Oct 4 2005, 09:03 PM)I a...   Oct 4 2005, 10:21 PM
|- - JRehling   QUOTE (tedstryk @ Oct 4 2005, 03:21 PM)It als...   Oct 4 2005, 10:41 PM
|- - Bob Shaw   QUOTE (JRehling @ Oct 4 2005, 11:41 PM)My bet...   Oct 4 2005, 10:53 PM
|- - RNeuhaus   QUOTE (Bob Shaw @ Oct 4 2005, 05:53 PM)Well, ...   Oct 5 2005, 04:04 PM
|- - JRehling   QUOTE (RNeuhaus @ Oct 5 2005, 09:04 AM)The Ve...   Oct 5 2005, 04:42 PM
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- - RNeuhaus   How does the Venus has some kind of rain when the ...   Oct 5 2005, 09:11 PM
|- - tedstryk   QUOTE (RNeuhaus @ Oct 5 2005, 09:11 PM)How do...   Oct 5 2005, 09:13 PM
|- - helvick   QUOTE (tedstryk @ Oct 5 2005, 10:13 PM)There ...   Oct 5 2005, 09:49 PM
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|- - Bob Shaw   Lovely image! Bob Shaw   Oct 8 2005, 06:10 PM
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|- - tedstryk   QUOTE (JRehling @ Jan 9 2006, 08:29 PM)While ...   Jan 9 2006, 08:34 PM
|- - Bob Shaw   QUOTE (tedstryk @ Jan 9 2006, 09:34 PM)I have...   Jan 9 2006, 11:10 PM
|- - tedstryk   QUOTE (Bob Shaw @ Jan 9 2006, 11:10 PM)Or eve...   Jan 9 2006, 11:12 PM
|- - Bob Shaw   QUOTE (tedstryk @ Jan 10 2006, 12:12 AM)I thi...   Jan 9 2006, 11:24 PM
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