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imran
post Sep 16 2005, 11:56 PM
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Jason,

Are you really shutting down this site? I must say I'm really sad to hear this. sad.gif(((
It was one of my favorite sites and I relied on it for up-to-date news on Titan and the Cassini Mission. I just want to commend you for your great work and hope you keep providing us with your valuable insights here. Keep up the good work Jason!
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post Sep 17 2005, 01:17 AM
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I think we should act. We should send an email to the person in charge explaining:

- Why we liked Jason's blog so much
- That it's important to connect with the people behind the mission (the human factor)
- That it's good to be able to put some questions about images and have some simple and honest answers
- With out this blog interest for this mission would be long lost
- It's understandable the need to restrict some information, but isn't this overreacting?

And sugesting a constructive solution:

- Turn the Blog into a official Cassini mission blog, open to posts by other team members.

OK, perhaps I'm being idealistic ;-) we all know how the world works. But if this type of thing starts to get worse (keeping all the data for themselfs) this forum might come under fire in the future.


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post Sep 17 2005, 01:28 AM
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QUOTE (4th rock from the sun @ Sep 16 2005, 06:17 PM)
I think we should act.
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I want to act too, because Jason's blog is absolutely GREAT. But before we act, we should make sure Jason wants us to act. Let me paint you one picture of a possible bad outcome: I was working with a bunch of kids inside MER mission operations, and they were writing daily blogs about their experiences. But because they had this inside position on the mission, everything they wrote had to be vetted through a press officer at JPL before I could post it. At times, great chunks of what they wrote were censored because it was revealing discussions going on in operations that the press officer didn't want talked about in public yet. The censored stuff didn't have to do with anything bad happening on the mission, just everyday decisions like which way they were talking about pointing the rover, and which rocks they were talking about investigating. We tried to guide the kids to talk more about life inside mission operations and less about decisions and events happening on the mission, but for some of them it was very very hard. Nobody likes to write under the threat of censorship. And I could very easily see Jason's blog getting resurrected as something where he had to submit each entry for approval before it could be posted. That would suck. The ONLY way it would be valuable for him -- and everybody else -- is if the powers that be could agree with him on certain ground rules of what he could talk about, and then leave him alone to write, and trust him.

I'm very very sad to see Titan Today go. It has been such a valuable resource for me and I'm sure a lot of other people.

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post Sep 17 2005, 01:46 AM
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QUOTE (elakdawalla @ Sep 16 2005, 09:28 PM)
I was working with a bunch of kids inside MER mission operations, and they were writing daily blogs about their experiences.  But because they had this inside position on the mission, everything they wrote had to be vetted through a press officer at JPL before I could post it.  At times, great chunks of what they wrote were censored because it was revealing discussions going on in operations that the press officer didn't want talked about in public yet.  The censored stuff didn't have to do with anything bad happening on the mission, just everyday decisions like which way they were talking about pointing the rover, and which rocks they were talking about investigating.


Out of curiosity, do you understand why the press officer didn't want this kind of stuff posted? From your brief description, this sounds completely crazy to me. Was the point that no scientific speculation would be allowed to be published before it reached the point of a refereed journal article (or at least JPL press release)? I can't imagine the scientists saying something like "well, we can't allow the public to see the actual process of science, just the final results..."
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- imran   Titan Today   Sep 16 2005, 11:56 PM
- - volcanopele   Yes, it is being shut down. I feel that shutting ...   Sep 17 2005, 12:00 AM
|- - mchan   QUOTE (volcanopele @ Sep 16 2005, 05:00 PM)Ye...   Sep 17 2005, 12:49 AM
- - David   QUOTE (imran @ Sep 16 2005, 11:56 PM)Jason, ...   Sep 17 2005, 12:03 AM
- - tfisher   I'm also very sad to hear this. I have made a...   Sep 17 2005, 12:47 AM
- - 4th rock from the sun   I think we should act. We should send an email to ...   Sep 17 2005, 01:17 AM
|- - elakdawalla   QUOTE (4th rock from the sun @ Sep 16 2005, 0...   Sep 17 2005, 01:28 AM
|- - tfisher   QUOTE (elakdawalla @ Sep 16 2005, 09:28 PM)I ...   Sep 17 2005, 01:46 AM
|- - elakdawalla   QUOTE (tfisher @ Sep 16 2005, 06:46 PM)Out of...   Sep 17 2005, 02:07 AM
- - volcanopele   I need to point out that it was I who made the dec...   Sep 17 2005, 01:25 AM
- - Decepticon   Oddly I knew this was coming. It was on my Fav...   Sep 17 2005, 01:50 AM
- - Jeff7   I will admit that I'm not a regular visitor of...   Sep 17 2005, 02:07 AM
- - exoplanet   I just want to say that if Jason was "warned...   Sep 17 2005, 02:43 AM
|- - David   I'm unwilling to make pejorative characterizat...   Sep 17 2005, 03:15 AM
|- - Rob Pinnegar   QUOTE (exoplanet @ Sep 16 2005, 08:43 PM)Data...   Sep 17 2005, 04:13 AM
- - Jeff7   I can understand what Emily means - the press is c...   Sep 17 2005, 04:50 AM
- - CosmicRocker   Volcanopele: I am saddened by the demise of your ...   Sep 17 2005, 07:47 AM
|- - dilo   ... (my comments already expressed by other member...   Sep 17 2005, 08:05 AM
- - djellison   I think it's very very sad that what ever happ...   Sep 17 2005, 10:07 AM
|- - odave   QUOTE (djellison @ Sep 17 2005, 06:07 AM)I...   Sep 19 2005, 03:03 PM
|- - tedstryk   QUOTE (odave @ Sep 19 2005, 03:03 PM)I think ...   Sep 19 2005, 04:27 PM
|- - helvick   QUOTE (odave @ Sep 19 2005, 04:03 PM)I think ...   Sep 19 2005, 04:47 PM
|- - DDAVIS   It's a damn shame that the US space business i...   Sep 19 2005, 08:18 PM
- - abalone   Would be a big loss hope you can keep it going   Sep 17 2005, 10:24 AM
- - Sunspot   ........hmm why would they be so unhappy with what...   Sep 17 2005, 10:57 AM
|- - OWW   QUOTE (Sunspot @ Sep 17 2005, 10:57 AM)Did th...   Sep 17 2005, 11:24 AM
|- - scalbers   QUOTE (Sunspot @ Sep 17 2005, 10:57 AM)Lets h...   Sep 17 2005, 05:57 PM
- - 4th rock from the sun   "The Soviet Union also didn't release inf...   Sep 17 2005, 02:30 PM
|- - scalbers   QUOTE (4th rock from the sun @ Sep 17 2005, 0...   Sep 17 2005, 05:43 PM
- - Rob Pinnegar   QUOTE (djellison @ Sep 17 2005, 04:07 AM)I th...   Sep 17 2005, 02:42 PM
- - scalbers   I posted a couple of comments (with some sharp ini...   Sep 17 2005, 05:37 PM
- - dvandorn   I do want to remind everyone that institutions are...   Sep 18 2005, 08:08 AM
- - djellison   THe story of Kim Keller - I was a s.s.s. regular a...   Sep 18 2005, 09:37 AM
|- - dvandorn   QUOTE (djellison @ Sep 18 2005, 04:37 AM)I...   Sep 19 2005, 05:27 AM
- - craigmcg   In trying to figure out why Titan Today was popula...   Sep 18 2005, 10:42 AM
- - odave   QUOTE (tedstryk @ Sep 19 2005, 12:27 PM)I thi...   Sep 19 2005, 05:15 PM
- - volcanopele   Just a few comments: 1) First, I want to thank al...   Sep 19 2005, 05:28 PM
|- - dilo   Jason, I fully agree on the "low profile...   Sep 19 2005, 07:07 PM
- - djellison   One of my very favorite Mars books that one..infac...   Sep 19 2005, 08:35 PM
|- - helvick   QUOTE (djellison @ Sep 19 2005, 09:35 PM)Stev...   Sep 19 2005, 09:30 PM
- - djellison   Pah - let the buggers listen to the Q'n'A ...   Sep 19 2005, 09:34 PM


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