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Shoreline On Titan: Best Evidence Yet |
Sep 17 2005, 12:28 PM
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Best evidence yet
*...for a shoreline on Titan; they're calling it "dramatic." Area measures 1,060 by 106 miles. Is from Cassini radar, obtained during the latest flyby. Speculation continues regarding seepage of liquid from the ground/ground springs and/or rainfall. |
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Sep 17 2005, 07:00 PM
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The solution to the apparent contradiction seems to be that -- in most locations on Titan where one would see seas or lakes on Earth -- we're looking instead at mudflats, like the one Huygens landed in. Rain is unquestionably MUCH rarer on Titan than on Earth -- and, on top of that, it seems to have very active cryovolcanic processes (driven by tidal heating from Jupiter, according to one startling theory) which are likely to keep pulling near-surface liquid methane and ethane further down into the subsurface and recycling it through Titan's upper crust. So we see very smooth mudflats (composed of both finely ground water ice and accumulated solid organic-smog sediment) -- but not much actual surface liquid.
Jonathan Lunine, in fact, predicted exactly this a decade ago: he said that the only model that could fit all the already-observed facts about Titan was that most of its liquid methane and ethane was in a subsurface aquifer in a highly porous surface layer, rather than in actual liquid bodies sitting directly on the surface. Bingo. |
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Palomar Shoreline On Titan: Best Evidence Yet Sep 17 2005, 12:28 PM
David How does this square with previous assertions that... Sep 17 2005, 01:09 PM
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Jyril Dark area on the radar image suggests the ground m... Sep 17 2005, 05:19 PM
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JRehling QUOTE (BruceMoomaw @ Sep 17 2005, 12:00 PM)Th... Sep 18 2005, 06:22 AM
imran QUOTE (JRehling @ Sep 18 2005, 06:22 AM)The t... Sep 18 2005, 06:58 AM
Richard Trigaux A strong argument in favour of rare but heavy rain... Sep 18 2005, 07:17 AM
DFinfrock [COLOR=blue]As Bruce MoomMaw wrote in Post #10:
... Sep 20 2005, 02:34 AM
Richard Trigaux QUOTE (DFinfrock @ Sep 20 2005, 02:34 AM)This... Sep 20 2005, 07:13 AM
BruceMoomaw The picture which is now forming pretty clearly of... Sep 18 2005, 10:31 AM
BruceMoomaw I've just found an article by Lorenz in the Ja... Sep 18 2005, 10:43 AM
BruceMoomaw Now, I HAVE found a clear reference to the fact th... Sep 18 2005, 10:50 AM
Richard Trigaux Thanks BruceMoomaw for the interesting discution a... Sep 18 2005, 07:38 PM
scalbers Haven't had a chance to do this yet with these... Sep 18 2005, 04:33 PM
David I don't really know that much about the scienc... Sep 18 2005, 05:43 PM
Richard Trigaux QUOTE (David @ Sep 18 2005, 05:43 PM)I don... Sep 18 2005, 07:08 PM
Bob Shaw QUOTE (Richard Trigaux @ Sep 18 2005, 08:08 P... Sep 18 2005, 07:39 PM
Richard Trigaux QUOTE (Bob Shaw @ Sep 18 2005, 07:39 PM)Richa... Sep 18 2005, 08:04 PM
BruceMoomaw David: Nobody is saying that the methane rain that... Sep 18 2005, 10:22 PM
Richard Trigaux QUOTE (BruceMoomaw @ Sep 18 2005, 10:22 PM)Bu... Sep 20 2005, 07:32 AM
BruceMoomaw Yes, but in those situations water seeps into the ... Sep 20 2005, 11:31 AM
Richard Trigaux QUOTE (BruceMoomaw @ Sep 20 2005, 11:31 AM)Ye... Sep 20 2005, 01:10 PM
BruceMoomaw Actually, I believe you're right -- on thinkin... Sep 20 2005, 03:05 PM
JRehling QUOTE (BruceMoomaw @ Sep 20 2005, 08:05 AM)Bu... Sep 20 2005, 04:37 PM
Bob Shaw QUOTE (JRehling @ Sep 20 2005, 05:37 PM)Assum... Sep 20 2005, 04:48 PM
BruceMoomaw Note also that one of the most recent Cassini rada... Sep 20 2005, 03:12 PM
BruceMoomaw Robert Mitchell has recently told me flatly that i... Sep 20 2005, 05:19 PM
exoplanet Has anyone put forward a theory that some sort of ... Sep 20 2005, 06:43 PM
The Messenger QUOTE (exoplanet @ Sep 20 2005, 11:43 AM)...
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imran Just an article I found interesting.
Rivers on Ti... Dec 6 2005, 06:29 AM
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JRehling QUOTE (Richard Trigaux @ Dec 5 2005, 11:22 PM... Dec 7 2005, 10:03 AM
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exoplanet Dear Bruce,
I honestly respect you opinion but I ... Sep 21 2005, 02:58 AM
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