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Hyperion's Appearance, topic especially about this unique moon
RPascal
post Oct 2 2005, 12:01 AM
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The images of Hyperion are fascinating, and its appearance with the many dark crater bottoms and the very steep crater walls seems to be unique, never seen on any other Solar System body before (?). For this reason I wanted to start a special topic solely about Hyperion and the origin of its appearance here.
(By the way: phantastic mosaics and color images, Jason!)

In most discussions here I have read the idea, that the dark crater bottoms is material that slides down the steep crater walls after the volatile icy component has evaporated or sublimated away. But looking at the many images I could not find a single (small or large) crater in the dark material that would expose bright material beneath. Shouldn't we expect this? If the dark component would indeed be a more or less thin layer deposited on the crater bottoms one should find many small craters were this thin layer was blasted away by the impact.
Because of this, my impression is that the dark stuff is the material from inside Hyperion, exposed by impacts, and the bright material is the crust.
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post Oct 2 2005, 03:39 AM
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QUOTE (RPascal @ Oct 1 2005, 07:01 PM)
...looking at the many images I could not find a single (small or large) crater in the dark material that would expose bright material beneath. Shouldn't we expect this? If the dark component would indeed be a more or less thin layer deposited on the crater bottoms one should find many small craters were this thin layer was blasted away by the impact...
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The dark floors of these craters seem quite "level," especially in relation to the very steep crater walls. And, in the highest resolution images, you can see that most of these dark units display cratering, in some cases down to the limits of resolution. The dark areas *seem* to be less heavily cratered at these smaller size ranges than the brighter inter-crater areas, but they do retain cratering morphologies. There are also some odd, almost viscous-looking morphologies in a few of the dark units.

If the dark units were just dark dust that's settled to the bottoms of craters in a relatively light-colored surface, you wouldn't expect them to be solid enough to retain a cratering record at such small scales.

This stuff just feels to me like stuff that seeped up into the craters from below, rather than stuff that filtered in from above. That's a gut feeling, and it will quite probably prove to be wrong, but that's what it looks like... huh.gif

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- RPascal   Hyperion's Appearance   Oct 2 2005, 12:01 AM
- - dvandorn   QUOTE (RPascal @ Oct 1 2005, 07:01 PM)...look...   Oct 2 2005, 03:39 AM
|- - RPascal   QUOTE (dvandorn @ Oct 2 2005, 04:39 AM)... Th...   Oct 2 2005, 11:08 PM
- - BruceMoomaw   We're starting to hear from the science team t...   Oct 3 2005, 12:46 AM
|- - JRehling   [...]   Oct 3 2005, 01:19 PM
|- - RPascal   QUOTE (BruceMoomaw @ Oct 3 2005, 01:46 AM)We...   Oct 4 2005, 04:27 PM
- - BruceMoomaw   Another problem with the solar heating model of Hy...   Oct 3 2005, 01:02 AM
- - Rob Pinnegar   It's a pity that Cassini didn't get a clos...   Oct 3 2005, 02:42 PM
|- - tedstryk   QUOTE (Rob Pinnegar @ Oct 3 2005, 02:42 PM)It...   Oct 3 2005, 09:50 PM
- - volcanopele   Just a thought for the day: Are all of you sure th...   Oct 3 2005, 05:34 PM
|- - David   QUOTE (volcanopele @ Oct 3 2005, 05:34 PM)Jus...   Oct 4 2005, 03:46 AM
|- - RPascal   QUOTE (volcanopele @ Oct 3 2005, 06:34 PM)Jus...   Oct 4 2005, 03:40 PM
|- - ugordan   QUOTE (RPascal @ Oct 4 2005, 05:40 PM)With th...   Oct 4 2005, 04:00 PM
|- - JRehling   [...]   Oct 4 2005, 04:32 PM
|- - RPascal   QUOTE (JRehling @ Oct 4 2005, 05:32 PM)Compar...   Oct 10 2005, 04:12 PM
- - Bill Harris   The appearances of some of the Hyperion craters is...   Oct 4 2005, 09:27 AM
- - algorimancer   What intrigues me is that there are so many appare...   Oct 4 2005, 01:00 PM
- - alan   I suspect the perceived cone shape of the craters ...   Oct 5 2005, 11:30 AM
|- - RPascal   QUOTE (alan @ Oct 5 2005, 12:30 PM)I suspect ...   Oct 9 2005, 02:12 PM
|- - RNeuhaus   QUOTE (alan @ Oct 5 2005, 06:30 AM)I suspect ...   Oct 18 2005, 04:28 PM
|- - JRehling   [...]   Oct 18 2005, 05:29 PM
|- - tasp   I will go out on limb for this; The dark stuff on...   Nov 4 2005, 02:54 AM
|- - tasp   QUOTE (tasp @ Nov 3 2005, 08:54 PM) Major...   Feb 28 2006, 04:10 AM
- - BruceMoomaw   No. Take a look at the many obliquely-viewed Hype...   Oct 9 2005, 09:56 PM
|- - RPascal   QUOTE (BruceMoomaw @ Oct 9 2005, 10:56 PM)No....   Oct 10 2005, 03:51 PM
- - volcanopele   My thought of the day, and my thought for today as...   Oct 10 2005, 04:50 PM
- - RPascal   A Model for Hyperion For a better understanding c...   Oct 11 2005, 08:45 PM
|- - silylene   QUOTE (RPascal @ Oct 11 2005, 08:45 PM)A Mode...   Oct 17 2005, 02:37 AM
|- - RPascal   QUOTE (silylene @ Oct 17 2005, 03:37 AM)Not b...   Oct 18 2005, 04:06 PM
- - nprev   Interesting and plausible hypothesis, Tasp. Here i...   Dec 8 2005, 07:00 PM
- - Phil Stooke   "Note that many of the "craters" vi...   Dec 8 2005, 08:03 PM
|- - nprev   Could be...but even the ragged, non-spherical shap...   Dec 9 2005, 04:29 AM
|- - ljk4-1   Rough and Tumble Hyperion Summary - (Fri, 03 Feb ...   Feb 4 2006, 02:55 PM
- - Gsnorgathon   And if you liked the book, don't miss the movi...   Feb 4 2006, 10:07 PM
|- - nprev   QUOTE (Gsnorgathon @ Feb 4 2006, 03:07 PM)And...   Feb 4 2006, 11:59 PM
|- - tasp   QUOTE (nprev @ Feb 4 2006, 05:59 PM)Nice...   Feb 5 2006, 06:54 AM
|- - JRehling   [...]   Feb 5 2006, 01:51 PM
- - nprev   It would be interesting to see if there is a well-...   Feb 5 2006, 09:22 AM
|- - tasp   QUOTE (nprev @ Feb 5 2006, 03:22 AM)It would ...   Feb 5 2006, 02:59 PM
|- - JRehling   [...]   Feb 9 2006, 08:43 PM
- - Phil Stooke   These pics of Hyperion just came down. I've e...   Feb 24 2006, 07:17 PM
- - ljk4-1   This recent paper claims that Hyperion looks the w...   Feb 24 2006, 09:40 PM
- - Phil Stooke   Based solely on the abstract, it doesn't reall...   Feb 25 2006, 12:07 AM


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