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Oct 13 2005, 07:35 PM
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Spirit shot the night sky again on sol 632, but this time no sign of Phobos or Deimos.
This shot shows Orion. It's upside-down, for northern-hemisphere earthlings at least, but more fascinating is that the star trail direction differs markedly from what you see (anywhere!) on Earth, since Earth's and Mars' axes are well from parallel. It really is jarring to see, if you've ever shot star trails of Orion before! This shot shows a patch of Gemini, though it's harder to recognize. That's Castor, brightest star along the bottom edge, halfway from centre to right edge. Pollux is just out of frame. Any ideas what the goal is here, if not just to drain off some excess power? Would it be feasible to do a real circumpolar-style star shot, showing arcs around an alien celestial pole? For spirit, it'd be Mars' south celestial pole, 15 or so degrees above the southern horizon. A navcam shot could be quite dramatic, with the ghostly outline of McCool/Ramon hills and the south rim of Gusev underneath the alien startrails. I guess time is the problem - you'd need several minutes exposure at least to show arcs. But perhaps a series of 30 second shots, which could easily be combined digitally? Wishful thinking, perhaps, but then again if there's extra power to drain... |
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Nov 18 2005, 06:31 PM
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![]() Junior Member ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 82 Joined: 22-July 05 From: Portugal Member No.: 445 |
Since the rotation speed and direction are known could they use image editing software to correct the image?
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Nov 18 2005, 07:13 PM
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Yep - there's software out there now to de-rotate fields for alt-az platforms. The show stopper for star tracking, I think, would be if they can't image and move the PMA at the same time. I haven't had time to research that issue yet.
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Nov 18 2005, 10:42 PM
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Hello people, just joining in..
About the Nov 18 update, it says: "Mars is currently passing through a debris trail of Halley's comet, and Spirit is attempting to observe resulting meteor showers with the panoramic camera at night." I was wondering why they would want to use the panoramic camera instead of the navigation camera. If you want to catch meteor storms, you want a large field of view instead of watching a small region and missing 99.9% of the action.. In fact, I think the Hazcams are best suited for this, with their wide angle lens. Unfortunately they're not pointing in the right direction.. Anyway, why do they "waste" time/energy/bandwidth with pancam images? There must be a reason, as I doubt a NASA engineer would ever read this and say "of course, I hadn't thought of that". |
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Nov 19 2005, 08:15 AM
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Welcome to the Forum, hansvi. I'm little disappointed too... I thought answer was related to the higher sensitivity of PanCam, but this isn't true (see previous post on this thread) and, considering also the higher focal ratio and the use of R2 filter for right images (with only 20nm bandpass), I cannot explain this choice!
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fredk Spirit The Astrophotographer Oct 13 2005, 07:35 PM
djellison Well - they might be meteor watching, or alternati... Oct 13 2005, 07:43 PM
tfisher QUOTE (djellison @ Oct 13 2005, 03:43 PM)Well... Oct 13 2005, 08:03 PM
fredk I wondered about meteor watching, but yikes - how ... Oct 13 2005, 08:04 PM
djellison A comic ray hit doesnt tend to fade up and down do... Oct 13 2005, 08:06 PM
um3k QUOTE (djellison @ Oct 13 2005, 04:06 PM)A co... Oct 13 2005, 08:09 PM

ljk4-1 I hope the MER team isn't doing this late nigh... Oct 13 2005, 08:48 PM

Richard Trigaux QUOTE (um3k @ Oct 13 2005, 08:09 PM)I suppose... Oct 14 2005, 10:02 AM

um3k QUOTE (Richard Trigaux @ Oct 14 2005, 06:02 A... Oct 14 2005, 02:25 PM
Ames QUOTE (djellison @ Oct 13 2005, 09:06 PM)A co... Oct 13 2005, 11:20 PM
dilo QUOTE (Ames @ Oct 13 2005, 11:20 PM)And cosmi... Oct 14 2005, 06:16 AM
djellison Notice they actually caught M42
OK - I admit it,... Oct 13 2005, 10:14 PM
Sunspot Spirit on Meteor Watch
Sol Seq.Ver ETH ESF EDN E... Oct 13 2005, 10:36 PM
fredk QUOTE (Sunspot @ Oct 13 2005, 10:36 PM)Spirit... Oct 13 2005, 11:03 PM
Bill Harris This is a montage of Spirit's Orion image and ... Oct 14 2005, 01:34 AM
Vladimorka According to Starry Night, NCP of Mars is about 8 ... Oct 14 2005, 08:40 AM
Bill Harris Googled and found info on astronomy _on_ Mars:
ht... Oct 14 2005, 08:44 AM
Bill Harris Thanks, Vladimorka, that agrees with other info th... Oct 14 2005, 12:34 PM
fredk Well, I've answered my own question from reply... Oct 14 2005, 04:23 PM
slinted QUOTE (fredk @ Oct 14 2005, 08:23 AM)Since th... Oct 15 2005, 09:45 AM
Bill Harris QUOTE Does anyone know if the navcams are unfilter... Oct 14 2005, 04:47 PM
fredk QUOTE (Bill Harris @ Oct 14 2005, 04:47 PM)He... Oct 14 2005, 06:03 PM
Tom Tamlyn There are a number of scholarly papers discussing ... Oct 15 2005, 05:34 AM
fredk QUOTE (Tom Tamlyn @ Oct 15 2005, 05:34 AM)Eur... Oct 16 2005, 12:00 AM
djellison QUOTE (fredk @ Oct 16 2005, 12:00 AM)It seems... Nov 11 2005, 10:47 PM
fredk As someone who's shot the Persied and Leonid m... Oct 14 2005, 05:43 PM
paxdan Any thoughts on the feasibility of using using the... Oct 14 2005, 06:00 PM
slinted The Pancam website at Cornell now has a section (u... Nov 11 2005, 09:50 PM
Phil Stooke Well, it turns out Mars the crosses the Comet Hall... Nov 11 2005, 11:03 PM
Bob Shaw Earlier in this thread the question of meteor dyna... Nov 12 2005, 12:59 AM
helvick QUOTE (Bob Shaw @ Nov 12 2005, 01:59 AM)I... Nov 12 2005, 11:47 AM
Bill Harris No expert here, but your thinking works for me. I... Nov 12 2005, 12:00 PM
dilo And now, beautiful lunar eclipse!
http://marsr... Nov 16 2005, 01:54 AM
odave QUOTE (dilo @ Nov 15 2005, 08:54 PM)BTW, astr... Nov 16 2005, 02:18 PM
paxdan Never got a reply to this, but could the PMA be us... Nov 16 2005, 02:59 PM
odave I guess it would be possible, assuming they can se... Nov 16 2005, 03:07 PM
SigurRosFan Great pictures! Is this the first lunar eclips... Nov 16 2005, 10:12 AM
Bill Harris Pleiades lower left, Hyades upper left.
Neat pix.... Nov 16 2005, 01:24 PM
MichaelT QUOTE (dilo @ Nov 19 2005, 08:15 AM)Welcome t... Nov 19 2005, 10:28 AM
hansvi QUOTE (dilo @ Nov 19 2005, 10:15 AM)Welcome t... Nov 21 2005, 02:26 AM
Sunspot This has got to be the first meteor seen on the su... Nov 19 2005, 06:10 PM
ljk4-1 Besides Earth, have the MERs tried to image any ot... Nov 19 2005, 06:37 PM
dilo Sorry, Sunspot, but one MER already pictured one ... Nov 19 2005, 07:49 PM
dilo FOUND!
http://space.com/scienceastronomy/05060... Nov 19 2005, 08:20 PM
mars loon QUOTE (dilo @ Nov 19 2005, 07:49 PM)Sorry, Su... Nov 19 2005, 08:22 PM
edstrick Mars Loon: "....and the first known meteorit... Nov 21 2005, 06:28 AM
mars loon Edstrick,
For context, here is the entire sentenc... Nov 21 2005, 02:11 PM
edstrick <grin> for the mad quibblers department....... Nov 22 2005, 09:08 AM
Bill Harris <grin^2> Those distinctions are becoming blu... Nov 22 2005, 09:21 AM![]() ![]() |
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