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Oct 24 2005, 03:25 PM
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According to Steve Squyres' latest journal entry, Opportunity is now seeing virtually -no- blueberries in the surface matrix anymore.
"...On top of that, Opportunity has stumbled onto something really new and different lately... the blueberries seem to be gone!..." And a theory: "But one possible guess at this point is that we have moved "up section" in geologic terms -- to rocks that are higher up in this stack of layered sediments -- and that the rocks at this level never experienced the concretion-forming process. It's an interesting hypothesis with interesting implications, and it's also one that could explain a few other odd things we've been thinking about ever since Eagle crater" Looks like Oppy will stop for some intense IDD work in the next day or so. |
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Oct 26 2005, 06:08 AM
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As far as I'm concerned, the single most intriguing mystery left to us by the rovers right now is: what created the Blueberries? According to an upcoming poster at the Fall 2005 AGU meeting ( http://www.agu.org/cgi-bin/SFgate/SFgate?&...P21A-0140" ):
"There are two main possible reaction sets for formation of the Blueberries that are consistent with all current data: "(1) Local concentrations of organic matter (pre-biotic or biotic) formed reduction spots in which a small amount of Fe3+ either in solution or from evaporite mineral salts, was reduced to Fe2+ and then diffused radially to form an iron oxide nodule by reaction with inwardly diffusing dissolved oxygen. "(2) Similar local concentrations of organic matter could also have engendered sulfate reduction and consequent outward diffusion of dissolved sulfide reacted with iron in solution to produce an iron sulfide nodule, subsequently oxidized in situ to hematite (maybe via goethite)." Organic matter. Well, well. It sounds too good to be true, but so far I haven't run across any alternative explanation proposed for the damn things anywhere on the Web -- and not for lack of looking. |
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Oct 26 2005, 06:08 PM
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QUOTE (BruceMoomaw @ Oct 26 2005, 01:08 AM) ...Organic matter. Well, well. It sounds too good to be true, but so far I haven't run across any alternative explanation proposed for the damn things anywhere on the Web -- and not for lack of looking. Hmmm... spherical concretions occur in lots of places here on Earth, too. I guess the first set of questions to ask includes the following: 1) Are there any terrestrial concretions that display similar chemistry, i.e., hematitic? 2) If the answer to the above is Yes, is there an accepted theory that organics played a role in their formation? I know, I know, the Apollo 16 lesson is learned well, here -- that assuming terrestrial-like processes to explain observed phenomenah on other worlds can lead you down the wrong path. But if we're talking about organics here, we need to at least compare the situation at Meridiani to anything and everything even remotely similar in our terrestrial experience. -the other Doug -------------------- “The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right.” -Mark Twain
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Burmese Bye Bye Blueberries Oct 24 2005, 03:25 PM
Tesheiner QUOTE (Burmese @ Oct 24 2005, 05:25 PM)Looks ... Oct 24 2005, 03:37 PM
Tman Wow, it seems Erebus as the (maybe) highest place ... Oct 24 2005, 04:01 PM
paxdan I wonder if there is a correlation between the lac... Oct 24 2005, 05:07 PM
Richard Trigaux QUOTE (paxdan @ Oct 24 2005, 05:07 PM)I wonde... Oct 24 2005, 06:37 PM
Bill Harris Hmm, one gets so accustomed to seeing blueberries ... Oct 24 2005, 06:55 PM
CosmicRocker Wow, that took me by surprise, too. I looked back... Oct 25 2005, 05:59 AM
ElkGroveDan QUOTE (CosmicRocker @ Oct 25 2005, 05:59 AM)A... Oct 25 2005, 07:43 PM
Bill Harris You-gottit, CR. I'd guess that this contact w... Oct 25 2005, 09:11 AM
CosmicRocker No doubt about it, the sol 617/618 outcrops were e... Oct 25 2005, 07:37 PM
ElkGroveDan QUOTE (CosmicRocker @ Oct 25 2005, 07:37 PM)N... Oct 25 2005, 07:49 PM
Burmese One would think that the science team would -reall... Oct 25 2005, 08:17 PM
Bill Harris This area of the north rim of Erebus is darn inter... Oct 26 2005, 01:11 AM
CosmicRocker QUOTE (ElkGroveDan @ Oct 25 2005, 01:49 PM)Pe... Oct 26 2005, 04:21 AM
Bill Harris Erebus may be up section, but OTOH, it may be down... Oct 26 2005, 08:21 AM
Tesheiner QUOTE (Bill Harris @ Oct 26 2005, 10:21 AM)Da... Oct 26 2005, 08:53 AM
Myran Thank you for posting that information BruceMoomaw... Oct 26 2005, 04:31 PM
TheChemist Here is an article that explains how organics can ... Oct 26 2005, 08:58 PM
CosmicRocker Organic matter certainly could create locally redu... Oct 27 2005, 04:24 AM
TheChemist CR, I agree that organics do not appear to be nece... Oct 27 2005, 10:46 AM
jvandriel A panoramic view of bedrock and Blueberries around... Oct 27 2005, 10:32 AM
RNeuhaus TheChemist and CR: Your comments are very interest... Oct 27 2005, 02:10 PM
Bill Harris CR makes a good point and it is a plausible explan... Oct 28 2005, 10:51 AM
CosmicRocker I don't know, Bill. It really is curious that... Oct 29 2005, 05:52 AM
Bill Harris I don't think that this is A Great Conspiracy ... Oct 29 2005, 02:36 PM
CosmicRocker I wasn't implying any kind of conspiracy, Bill... Oct 30 2005, 06:32 PM
Phil Stooke CosmicRocker said:
"All I can guess is that ... Oct 30 2005, 06:48 PM
Bill Harris I wasn't seriously thinking anything conspirat... Oct 30 2005, 11:14 PM
ElkGroveDan QUOTE (Bill Harris @ Oct 30 2005, 11:14 PM)Or... Oct 30 2005, 11:22 PM
CosmicRocker You're absolutely correct, Phil. It could ver... Oct 31 2005, 06:15 AM![]() ![]() |
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