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 Aug 1 2007, 09:35 PM
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Oh, Doug, relax.
 I'm sure ESA wouldn't have said no -- but these things can't happen without an apalling quantity of paperwork, which must begin with a formal request from NASA to ESA. (This is probably not just for ESA's sake; I'm sure there's a lot of annoying ITAR stuff that must be got through to allow the transmission of information about Phoenix to ESA.)--Emily -------------------- My website - My Patreon - @elakdawalla on Twitter - Please support unmannedspaceflight.com by donating here.
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Aug 2 2007, 12:29 AM
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When I read this
QUOTE According to freelance launch photographer Ben Cooper, the second stage of the Delta II rocket that will carry Phoenix into space has been fueled. over on the PB, I read "free lunch photographer."No offense, Ben: I know it's no picnic to get images as beautiful as yours. 
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"Zis is not nuts, zis is super-nuts!" Mathematician Richard Courant on viewing an Orion test |
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Aug 2 2007, 12:40 AM
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QUOTE (elakdawalla @ Aug 1 2007, 01:35 PM)  Oh, Doug, relax. I'm sure ESA wouldn't have said noTrue, but then they'll make us wait six to nine months for the images, and when we do get them they will have been airbrushed over by an artist.
-------------------- If Occam had heard my theory, things would be very different now.
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Aug 2 2007, 03:04 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 600 Joined: 26-August 05 Member No.: 476 |
I had interpreted the release as monitoring the "tones" from EDL. Is imaging planned? A photo of the entry contrail would be awesome!
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Aug 2 2007, 05:06 AM
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QUOTE (ElkGroveDan @ Aug 1 2007, 11:07 PM) Isn't that a bit like listening to news coverage of an eclipse of the Sun on the radio? The radio emissions of the Sun can't get to Earth during an eclipse of the Sun  I don't know how you feel yourselve (and others) but images are one, and, by listening at communications during the countdown one can feel all the tenses of the action and I love that. It's quite the same as listening to the EDL... ok may be not the same if we can see the contrail live next year ( ). So, if somebody get the phone N° I'm looking for ....
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Aug 2 2007, 12:36 PM
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 Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 3652 Joined: 1-October 05 From: Croatia Member No.: 523 |
I'm with Climber on this one, the solar eclipse analogy was a bad one. I'd go as far as to say the audio is more important in giving the feel of a launch than visuals are. The radio chatter and engine roar can be just as exciting as nice visuals, in fact I can think of a few launch videos that are awesome but really spoiled by bad audio. MRO comes to mind for some reason... On the other hand I'd kill for an audio of Saturn V first launch with Walter Cronkite yelling "My God! The building's shaking!".
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Aug 2 2007, 12:51 PM
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Audio "We have had an anomaly"
Video - A Delta II exploding. Audio is better than nothing, but it's doesn't tell the whole story. BUT - I would trade video for proper comms loop audio  Doug |
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| Guest_Zvezdichko_* |
Aug 2 2007, 01:42 PM
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The last post of Doug made me shivering because the first thing I read was "A Delta II exploding"
Now clouds are the only concern, but chance for delay because of bad weather is low. |
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Aug 2 2007, 03:15 PM
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 Special Cookie Group: Members Posts: 2168 Joined: 6-April 05 From: Sintra | Portugal Member No.: 228 |
A bit off topic here...
Cool to see that on the Max Plänck Institute site has on its site two references to know more about the Robotic Arm Camera onboard the Phoenix...: University of Arizona and...mine... 
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Aug 2 2007, 05:19 PM
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Cool!!! US, can you post a direct link to your story? I can read like maybe three words of German...
-------------------- A few will take this knowledge and use this power of a dream realized as a force for change, an impetus for further discovery to make less ancient dreams real.
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Aug 2 2007, 05:28 PM
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Links are right at the bottom of the page and in English.
Nice work getting linked Ustrax. James -------------------- |
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Aug 2 2007, 05:52 PM
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Merciless Robot Group: Admin Posts: 8791 Joined: 8-December 05 From: Los Angeles Member No.: 602 |
D'oh! So it is; I'm a dolt, was looking for an embedded article. Thank you, James, and congrats again, US; nicely done.
-------------------- A few will take this knowledge and use this power of a dream realized as a force for change, an impetus for further discovery to make less ancient dreams real.
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| Guest_Zvezdichko_* |
Aug 2 2007, 07:04 PM
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I was watching the press conference, the team is ready for a Saturday liftoff. Go, Phoenix!
Btw what would be the GMT times for the launch attempt - August 4th, Attempts: 5:26 and 6:02 a.m.? |
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Aug 2 2007, 07:07 PM
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QUOTE (Zvezdichko @ Aug 2 2007, 03:04 PM) I was watching the press conference, the team is ready for a Saturday liftoff. Go, Phoenix! Btw what would be the GMT times for the launch attempt - August 4th, Attempts: 5:26 and 6:02 a.m.? Those are EDT. Add four hours. -------------------- |
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| Guest_Zvezdichko_* |
Aug 2 2007, 07:10 PM
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Thank you very much! I also thought it was so, I needed to be sure! Once again, thank you!
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