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RNeuhaus
post Oct 28 2005, 05:22 PM
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This topic is for posts concerning to any preparation of Phoenix Lander Mission to Mars programmed to launch on August 2007 (less than 2 years... but the time will fly)

http://marsprogram.jpl.nasa.gov/missions/future/phoenix.html

Overview

The Phoenix mission is the first chosen for NASA's Scout program, an initiative for smaller, lower-cost, competed spacecraft. Named for the resilient mythological bird, Phoenix uses a lander that was intended for use by 2001's Mars Surveyor lander prior to its cancellation. It also carries a complex suite of instruments that are improved variations of those that flew on the lost Mars Polar Lander.

Canada Will Land Instrument On Mars To Study Weather

http://www.spacedaily.com/news/mars-future-05t.html

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post Oct 26 2006, 07:39 AM
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QUOTE (Stephen @ Oct 26 2006, 07:22 AM) *
the course of a Martian winter


I agree, LIDAR obs during winter would be interesting, but during martian winter, Phoenix is going to be very very very dead.

And HiRISE can and will follow the advance and retreat of the icecap.....a job almost designed for MARCI which will obseve the site at LEAST daily, and because it's near polar it may well get imaged several times per day. An equatorial site, yes, HiRISE would struggle to image it regularly ( MARCI would still do so however ) but because it's near the pole the 'overlap' of the orbits is so much closer that repeated, higher res observations ( with CTX or even HiRISE ) will be much easier.

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post Oct 26 2006, 08:05 AM
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QUOTE (djellison @ Oct 26 2006, 05:39 PM) *
I agree, LIDAR obs during winter would be interesting, but during martian winter, Phoenix is going to be very very very dead.

No one's disputing the death of Phoenix, Doug. (Albeit I suspect that most of us probably harbour some hope, however small and slender, that miracles can happen and that the thing will live up to its name! smile.gif ) Even if the pressure of all that snow and ice building up on top of it doesn't crush it (or the more delicate parts of it at any rate, like solar panels and radio antennae), being buried for months in ice, especially CO2 ice, will doubtless do bad things to the electronics inside of it.

But that wasn't the point I was making. There are some things that can be better done from orbit and there are some things that can't. I'm sure there were people out there who would have argued before the MERs were launched, for example, that there was no need to send rovers--and two at that--to find proof of water on Mars when all the proof that would ever be needed to settle the issue could be found using orbiters equipped with cameras, spectrometers, and radar. smile.gif

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post Oct 26 2006, 08:56 AM
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Yes - there are things that are best done from the ground....but following the advance and retreat of an ice cap of hundreds of km's isn't one.

It's clear that we're talking about different things and an argument is brewing - so I'm stopping it here and now.

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post Dec 6 2006, 05:37 PM
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post Dec 6 2006, 09:38 PM
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QUOTE (ustrax @ Dec 6 2006, 06:37 PM) *

There's quite a nice picture of the harware...
Do you still plan to go for launch?


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post Dec 7 2006, 11:02 AM
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QUOTE (climber @ Dec 6 2006, 09:38 PM) *
There's quite a nice picture of the harware...
Do you still plan to go for launch?


Yes I do... smile.gif


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post Dec 7 2006, 04:06 PM
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QUOTE (climber @ Dec 6 2006, 01:38 PM) *
There's quite a nice picture of the harware...
Do you still plan to go for launch?
QUOTE (ustrax @ Dec 7 2006, 03:02 AM) *
Yes I do... smile.gif

Can I push the button? biggrin.gif


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post Dec 7 2006, 05:12 PM
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QUOTE (djellison @ Oct 25 2006, 11:39 PM) *
I agree, LIDAR obs during winter would be interesting, but during martian winter, Phoenix is going to be very very very dead.


I could care less about how Phoenix meets its fate after its mission... I just hope its thrusters work beautifully when it's descending to the ground at the beginning of its mission biggrin.gif


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post Dec 7 2006, 10:43 PM
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QUOTE (ElkGroveDan @ Dec 7 2006, 04:06 PM) *
Can I push the button? biggrin.gif


Sorry, the place is taken...there's a crowd dying to do it before you do... wink.gif


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post Dec 7 2006, 10:52 PM
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QUOTE (ustrax @ Dec 7 2006, 02:43 PM) *
Sorry, the place is taken...there's a crowd dying to do it before you do... wink.gif

OK then. No ride on my avatar for you.


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post Dec 8 2006, 06:36 PM
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QUOTE (ElkGroveDan @ Dec 7 2006, 10:52 PM) *
OK then. No ride on my avatar for you.


One of this days I'll buy one of those... wink.gif


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Gorgeous artwork of the lander on the ground at twilight...


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post Dec 20 2006, 08:07 PM
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QUOTE (ElkGroveDan @ Dec 7 2006, 11:06 AM) *
Can I push the button? biggrin.gif



It is now a mouse click. The buttlon has been removed and was given on a plaque to the last person that pushed it.
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post Dec 20 2006, 10:23 PM
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QUOTE (Jim from NSF.com @ Dec 20 2006, 12:07 PM) *
...to the last person that pushed it.

Is that true? Who was it? What launch?


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post Dec 27 2006, 08:40 PM
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Has anyone noticed the newly re-designed Phoenix website?
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