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Rhea Flyby (november 26th 2005.)
Toma B
post Nov 14 2005, 03:56 PM
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26 Nov. Close Flyby (500 km.) of Rhea...(Size: 1538 km.)
27 Nov. Distant Flyby (108,000 km.) of Enceladus...(Size: 512 x 494 x 490 km.)
27 Nov. Distant Flyby (86,000 km.) of Helene...(Size: 36 x 32 x 30 km.)

This should be interesting... smile.gif

Can anybody give a bit more information on the upcoming flybys???

Is this the best image of Helene that we have???
Vojager 2 - distance :341000 km)

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post Nov 22 2005, 05:55 PM
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Just to try and clear up some misconceptions. The 'frame time' is the time it takes the ISS camera system to prepare to take an image, actually take the image and then send the data to the spacecraft's solid state recorders. The system can't begin taking another image until one 'frame time' later. The 'frame time' can be thought of as how long is needed to take an image.


Now the frame time is calculated the following way:


The frame time for each image = prepare cycle + readout cycle

prepare cycle = NAC filter wheel window + WAC filter wheel window +
flood/erase allowance(950 ms) + exposure window + pad (525 ms)

readout cycle = (NAC readout window + WAC readout window)*(48 packets per sec
telemetry rate / actual telemetry rate) + pad (525 ms)

shortest prepare cycle = 4.475 seconds (1s + 0s + 0.95s + 2s + 0.525s) (NAC or WAC only)
shortest readout cycle = 6.525 seconds ((6s + 0s)*(48/48)s + 0.525s) (NAC or WAC only)

shortest possible frame time = 11 seconds

But this is for the shortest of the 4 allowed (quantised) readout times (6s, 14s, 25s and 50s). You can only use the 6s readout time for 4x4 summation (i.e. 256x256 pixel) images and all but one type of 2x2 (512x512 pixel) image, for 1x1 (1024x1024 pixel) images you have to use at least 14 seconds. That means for a 1024x1024 pixel image the minimum frame time is 19 seconds in telemetry mode S&ER 5 (48 packets/sec). In the more usual S&ER 3 (24 packets/sec) the minimum frame time for a full image is 33 seconds. This assumes that you have losslessly compressed 8 bit images (i.e. 12-->8 bit lookup table has been used). For losslessly compressed 12 bit 1x1 summation mode images its recommended that the readout time is 25 secs so the minimum frame time is 30 s (S&ER 5) or 55 s(S&ER 3).

You can use a shorter readout window than is necessary to readout a full image, this results in image truncation i.e. losing lines at the bottom of an image (on occasion the person planning an observation doesn't use the recommended readout time and uses a shorter one instead and this can result in all the images being truncated, especially if they have underestimated how well the images will compress). Oh and the reasaon there are different telemetry modes is that the available bandwidth to the solid state recorders is divided differently between the 12 Cassini instruments in each mode. The modes where ISS gets alot of bandwidth are S&ER 3, S&ER 5 and S&ER 5A.
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- Toma B   Rhea Flyby (november 26th 2005.)   Nov 14 2005, 03:56 PM
- - tasp   Perhaps Helene is a former satellite of Dione, lib...   Nov 14 2005, 04:50 PM
- - jmknapp   QUOTE (Toma B @ Nov 14 2005, 11:56 AM)26 Nov....   Nov 14 2005, 06:37 PM
|- - JRehling   QUOTE (jmknapp @ Nov 14 2005, 11:37 AM)Here...   Nov 14 2005, 07:32 PM
|- - scalbers   QUOTE (jmknapp @ Nov 14 2005, 06:37 PM)Here...   Nov 26 2005, 04:55 PM
- - tasp   Appreciate the heads up on the flyby view. I assu...   Nov 14 2005, 06:46 PM
- - volcanopele   Don't hold your breathe for Helene, and Encela...   Nov 14 2005, 08:46 PM
- - Decepticon   Its nice to see coverage of poorly imaged areas.   Nov 14 2005, 10:27 PM
- - jmknapp   Is Cassini set to do hi-res ISS imaging of Rhea? I...   Nov 14 2005, 11:20 PM
|- - AlexBlackwell   QUOTE (jmknapp @ Nov 14 2005, 11:20 PM)Is Cas...   Nov 15 2005, 07:56 PM
|- - volcanopele   QUOTE (AlexBlackwell @ Nov 15 2005, 12:56 PM)...   Nov 15 2005, 08:14 PM
|- - jmknapp   QUOTE (volcanopele @ Nov 15 2005, 04:14 PM)IS...   Nov 15 2005, 08:46 PM
|- - elakdawalla   QUOTE (jmknapp @ Nov 15 2005, 01:46 PM)Pretty...   Nov 15 2005, 09:14 PM
|- - jmknapp   QUOTE (elakdawalla @ Nov 15 2005, 05:14 PM)An...   Nov 15 2005, 09:42 PM
- - Toma B   Update on Ciclops page: http://ciclops.org/view.p...   Nov 18 2005, 01:45 PM
- - Mariner9   400 Meters Per Pixel..... be still my beating hear...   Nov 18 2005, 10:55 PM
|- - tedstryk   QUOTE (Mariner9 @ Nov 18 2005, 10:55 PM)400 M...   Nov 19 2005, 07:21 AM
|- - ugordan   QUOTE (Mariner9 @ Nov 19 2005, 12:55 AM)Shees...   Nov 19 2005, 03:57 PM
|- - jmknapp   QUOTE (ugordan @ Nov 19 2005, 11:57 AM)It...   Nov 22 2005, 02:42 PM
- - tasp   My undersanding is (please inform if I am off here...   Nov 19 2005, 06:00 AM
- - Mariner9   I think Tasp is correct, one of the big problems i...   Nov 19 2005, 08:51 AM
- - edstrick   Tedstryk: "...Of course, the lack of a scan p...   Nov 19 2005, 12:27 PM
|- - tedstryk   Reaction wheels definitely make a difference. But...   Nov 19 2005, 01:57 PM
||- - tedstryk   QUOTE (tedstryk @ Nov 19 2005, 01:57 PM)React...   Nov 19 2005, 02:16 PM
|- - JRehling   QUOTE (edstrick @ Nov 19 2005, 05:27 AM)What ...   Nov 21 2005, 11:16 PM
|- - tedstryk   QUOTE (JRehling @ Nov 21 2005, 11:16 PM)Certa...   Nov 22 2005, 05:27 AM
- - tasp   Addditionally, I can imagine most of the scientifi...   Nov 19 2005, 03:09 PM
- - volcanopele   The Cassini home page now has this graphic up adve...   Nov 21 2005, 07:28 PM
- - Phil Stooke   We graphic artists call it 'throwing random pi...   Nov 21 2005, 07:36 PM
|- - ljk4-1   QUOTE (Phil Stooke @ Nov 21 2005, 02:36 PM)We...   Nov 21 2005, 08:33 PM
|- - JRehling   QUOTE (ljk4-1 @ Nov 21 2005, 01:33 PM)I ...   Nov 21 2005, 11:54 PM
||- - Jeff7   Advertising for regular products can go awry too -...   Nov 22 2005, 04:33 AM
|- - Bob Shaw   QUOTE (ljk4-1 @ Nov 21 2005, 09:33 PM)An...   Nov 22 2005, 06:11 PM
- - scalbers   Is it true that the exposure times (even if longer...   Nov 21 2005, 11:29 PM
- - pat   Just to try and clear up some misconceptions. The ...   Nov 22 2005, 05:55 PM
|- - ugordan   QUOTE (pat @ Nov 22 2005, 07:55 PM)Just to tr...   Nov 23 2005, 11:43 AM
|- - jmknapp   The Science Plan 16 kernels (covering Nov. 12-Dec....   Nov 24 2005, 03:23 PM
- - Decepticon   We will finally see that Impact Basin after being ...   Nov 26 2005, 05:07 PM
- - scalbers   And some of the initial part of the Enceladus flyb...   Nov 26 2005, 05:07 PM
|- - tedstryk   We will finally get a better view!   Nov 26 2005, 05:16 PM
|- - tedstryk   This best Voyager 2 view shows a lot of the areas ...   Nov 26 2005, 07:08 PM
|- - volcanopele   QUOTE (tedstryk @ Nov 26 2005, 12:08 PM)This ...   Nov 26 2005, 08:41 PM
|- - tedstryk   QUOTE (volcanopele @ Nov 26 2005, 08:41 PM)Wh...   Nov 26 2005, 09:23 PM
- - Decepticon   ^^Odd I have not seen that pic yet!? It's...   Nov 26 2005, 08:18 PM
|- - tedstryk   QUOTE (Decepticon @ Nov 26 2005, 08:18 PM)^^O...   Nov 27 2005, 01:18 AM
- - mgrodzki   new images on the raw finder   Nov 26 2005, 09:22 PM
|- - jmknapp   Here's one with 8->12bit conversion that sh...   Nov 26 2005, 10:36 PM
- - volcanopele   These are the GLOCOL images that came down this mo...   Nov 26 2005, 10:11 PM
- - Decepticon   Well now we know 2 Impact Basins! http://satur...   Nov 27 2005, 03:57 AM
- - Decepticon   A whole flood of pics! http://saturn1.jpl.nas...   Nov 27 2005, 02:24 PM
|- - jmknapp   Here's a histogram-stretched view of the ray c...   Nov 27 2005, 03:05 PM
- - Decepticon   A beginners sad attempt at a stitch.   Nov 27 2005, 03:31 PM
- - volcanopele   Before starting work on these, I'll try to ans...   Nov 27 2005, 05:26 PM
- - Decepticon   Before Cassini? Was it known before all these won...   Nov 27 2005, 07:46 PM
- - Rob Pinnegar   Assuming that north is at the top in these new ima...   Nov 27 2005, 08:18 PM
|- - volcanopele   QUOTE (Rob Pinnegar @ Nov 27 2005, 01:18 PM)A...   Nov 27 2005, 08:23 PM
- - Phil Stooke   Volcanopele asked (above, post 53) if the second b...   Nov 28 2005, 03:02 PM
- - um3k   Here is the ray crater: http://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov...   Nov 28 2005, 04:35 PM
- - Mariner9   Is it just me, or is there a distinct lack of Whis...   Nov 28 2005, 05:32 PM
- - SigurRosFan   Here's a quick Rhea South Pole mosaic (click f...   Nov 28 2005, 06:49 PM
- - Toma B   I dont have time for better stich... I hope somebo...   Nov 28 2005, 07:47 PM
- - Exploitcorporations   RE: Rhea Flyby (november 26th 2005.)   Nov 29 2005, 01:34 AM
- - BruceMoomaw   Well, this sure ain't "crosshatching...   Nov 29 2005, 02:22 AM
- - BruceMoomaw   And what the hell is this? http://saturn.jpl.nasa....   Nov 29 2005, 02:26 AM
- - BruceMoomaw   Looked at sideways, it appears to be just a very b...   Nov 29 2005, 02:33 AM
- - Exploitcorporations   N00043425 in context:   Nov 29 2005, 03:34 AM
- - spaceffm   klick me big... Stitching by Tman ( www.greuti....   Nov 29 2005, 04:50 PM
- - Toma B   QUOTE (spaceffm @ Nov 29 2005, 07:50 PM)Stitc...   Nov 29 2005, 05:17 PM
- - spaceffm   why so agressive? Or just bad mood? He posted it i...   Nov 29 2005, 05:59 PM
|- - volcanopele   QUOTE (spaceffm @ Nov 29 2005, 10:59 AM)why s...   Nov 29 2005, 07:14 PM
- - Toma B   QUOTE (spaceffm @ Nov 29 2005, 08:59 PM)why s...   Nov 30 2005, 10:02 AM
- - Tman   In order to find it a bit easier I'll gladly p...   Nov 30 2005, 05:44 PM
|- - ugordan   QUOTE (Tman @ Nov 30 2005, 06:44 PM)Yeah, rec...   Dec 1 2005, 08:50 AM
- - Tman   No no, I'm not an "inside" guy I...   Dec 1 2005, 10:25 AM
- - tfisher   Here's a "just plain pretty" picture...   Dec 2 2005, 04:53 AM
- - dvandorn   This Rhea encounter just reinforces my earlier imp...   Dec 2 2005, 08:21 AM
- - DEChengst   Mosaic from the fly-by: http://paranoid.dechengst...   Dec 3 2005, 05:26 PM
|- - Bob Shaw   QUOTE (DEChengst @ Dec 3 2005, 06:26 PM)Final...   Dec 4 2005, 03:53 PM
||- - ljk4-1   Paper: astro-ph/0512115 Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2005 18:...   Dec 6 2005, 03:43 PM
|- - volcanopele   QUOTE (DEChengst @ Dec 3 2005, 10:26 AM)Final...   Dec 6 2005, 07:21 PM
- - Decepticon   Pics No worky?   Dec 3 2005, 06:33 PM
- - edstrick   "The page cannot be displayed" Pics do...   Dec 4 2005, 08:11 AM
- - Decepticon   Thanks DE! Worth the wait.   Dec 4 2005, 01:11 PM
- - edstrick   Working fine now... There's one minor problem ...   Dec 4 2005, 01:21 PM
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|- - tasp   QUOTE (Rob Pinnegar @ Dec 17 2005, 03:22 PM)T...   Dec 18 2005, 01:41 AM
|- - Rob Pinnegar   QUOTE (tasp @ Dec 17 2005, 07:41 PM)Vile, gre...   Dec 18 2005, 01:56 AM
|- - tasp   QUOTE (Rob Pinnegar @ Dec 17 2005, 07:56 PM)O...   Dec 18 2005, 02:34 PM
|- - ljk4-1   SATURN'S RINGS GAVE BIRTH TO MOONS (Space ...   Dec 22 2005, 03:16 PM
|- - Rob Pinnegar   QUOTE (ljk4-1 @ Dec 22 2005, 09:16 AM)Sa...   Dec 22 2005, 03:47 PM
- - Decepticon   2nd largest Sat moon and pretty boring terrain wis...   Dec 4 2005, 02:34 PM
- - Exploitcorporations   Spectacular as always, Jason. I took the liberty o...   Dec 7 2005, 09:56 PM
|- - ljk4-1   http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap051213.html 62...   Dec 14 2005, 03:25 AM
- - malgar   I tried a photoclinometry on this image from the l...   Dec 17 2005, 07:26 PM
- - Adam   QUOTE (malgar @ Dec 17 2005, 08:26 PM)I tried...   Dec 17 2005, 07:31 PM
- - Decepticon   I'm thinking he meant Not as interesting as ot...   Dec 17 2005, 10:33 PM
- - Bill Harris   QUOTE Vile, greasy substance? I like that. I lik...   Dec 18 2005, 02:05 AM
- - Rob Pinnegar   QUOTE (tedstryk @ Dec 17 2005, 05:06 PM)I wou...   Dec 18 2005, 02:48 AM
- - edstrick   ".....a Death Cap mushroom with a bad case of...   Dec 18 2005, 06:34 AM


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