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Size Comparism Of The Moons Of The Gas Planets, Moon Systems of the gas giants compared |
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A copyright recognizes any significant value added to an intellectual property.
In the case here, spaceffm put together some very nice comparison murals. But *if* the work of scaling the images so that they were in proper scale to each other was done by someone else (especially by someone who took out a copyright, not on the images, but on the work he did to adjust each image to the proper scale), and *then* spaceffm claimed that he did the work to accurately scale the images, he would be making a false claim. It would be trying to take credit for someone else's work -- work that the someone else spent enough time and energy on, and added enough value to the images' presentations by doing the scaling calculations and manipulating the images accordingly, that he felt the value he added was worthy of its own copyright. So, if spaceffm were to produce paper copies of these murals and sell them, or even if he were to insist on being credited if the murals were shown elsewhere on the Internet, the issue a copyright court would consider would be whether or not spaceffm had added any significant value to the images, as manipulated and copyrighted by Tayfun Oner. If spaceffm could prove that he did all the work to scale and manipulate all the images in his own murals, then he would win the suit. Just because Oner had made such scaled images doesn't preclude anyone else from doing it -- as long as they do the work and don't just use Oner's pre-scaled images without attribution. However, if all spaceffm did was re-arrange the elements of similar comparison murals made by Oner, without actually doing any of the scaling and image manipulation itself, then he would lose the suit. In fact, even if spaceffm did almost all of the scaling himself, if he used even *one* pre-scaled image taken from someone else's work and deliberately passed it off as his own work, he would lose the suit. -the other Doug -------------------- “The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right.” -Mark Twain
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spaceffm Size Comparism Of The Moons Of The Gas Planets Nov 15 2005, 12:10 AM
David Nice. I see you squeezed Mars, Pluto and Charon i... Nov 15 2005, 12:23 AM
Decepticon Excellent work!
I've been wanted images l... Nov 15 2005, 08:23 PM
deglr6328 Ohhhh nice! Would you consider releasing... Nov 15 2005, 08:30 PM
tedstryk Well, considering several of these images are from... Nov 15 2005, 11:00 PM
deglr6328 Tayfun Oner? Ugh, copyrighting these probe images ... Nov 15 2005, 11:31 PM
tedstryk QUOTE (deglr6328 @ Nov 15 2005, 11:31 PM)Tayf... Nov 15 2005, 11:40 PM
tasp If this post is deemed not on topic for the thread... Nov 16 2005, 02:31 AM
Decepticon RE: Size Comparism Of The Moons Of The Gas Planets Nov 17 2005, 01:13 PM
Toma B QUOTE (tedstryk @ Nov 17 2005, 01:40 PM)Let m... Nov 17 2005, 01:27 PM
dvandorn Yeah -- insisting you're in the clear because ... Nov 17 2005, 02:23 PM
tedstryk QUOTE (Toma B @ Nov 17 2005, 01:27 PM)Just a ... Nov 17 2005, 04:32 PM
mike It seems odd to me too to copyright something as s... Nov 17 2005, 04:07 PM
tedstryk QUOTE (mike @ Nov 17 2005, 04:07 PM)It seems ... Nov 17 2005, 04:33 PM
tedstryk I was referring to the image processing - coloring... Nov 17 2005, 05:16 PM
elakdawalla Hey, now, let's all play nice while Doug is aw... Nov 17 2005, 05:03 PM
tedstryk QUOTE (elakdawalla @ Nov 17 2005, 05:03 PM)I... Nov 17 2005, 05:31 PM
lyford QUOTE (elakdawalla @ Nov 17 2005, 09:03 AM)Wh... Nov 17 2005, 10:35 PM
Toma B QUOTE (tedstryk @ Nov 17 2005, 07:32 PM)I am ... Nov 17 2005, 05:33 PM
dvandorn And believe me, I was simply proposing a what-if a... Nov 17 2005, 06:23 PM
deglr6328 Oh goodness, now look what I've gone and done ... Nov 17 2005, 08:44 PM
Bill Harris Great discussion on copyright and intellectual pro... Nov 17 2005, 09:01 PM
Phil Stooke Maybe we could recover this thread by actually mak... Nov 17 2005, 10:13 PM
elakdawalla QUOTE (Phil Stooke @ Nov 17 2005, 03:13 PM)Ma... Nov 18 2005, 12:25 AM
Bill Harris QUOTE A whole series is needed, really...
I... Nov 17 2005, 10:34 PM
lyford QUOTE (Bill Harris @ Nov 17 2005, 02:34 PM)I... Nov 17 2005, 10:43 PM
JRehling Here is a scale diagram of the satellite orbital d... Nov 19 2005, 09:52 AM
Bob Shaw Solor Sytsem?
Ooops!
Bob Shaw Nov 19 2005, 01:13 PM
David QUOTE (JRehling @ Nov 19 2005, 09:52 AM)Here ... Nov 19 2005, 04:12 PM
tedstryk I have been searching and haven't found much i... Nov 29 2005, 06:44 PM
Phillip These are wonderful posts! Here is a link to ... Nov 18 2005, 01:56 AM
elakdawalla QUOTE (Phillip @ Nov 17 2005, 06:56 PM)Sorry ... Nov 18 2005, 02:10 AM
tedstryk Great work! Both to Emily and spaceffm. Nov 18 2005, 03:22 AM
dvandorn First off, thanks to Phillip for his insightful re... Nov 18 2005, 06:51 AM
helvick QUOTE (dvandorn @ Nov 18 2005, 07:51 AM)You c... Nov 18 2005, 07:35 AM
lyford OMG??!@?#
These images are so incredibly bea... Nov 18 2005, 08:11 AM
Bill Harris I always had a mental image of the Galilean satell... Nov 18 2005, 08:38 AM
David QUOTE (Bill Harris @ Nov 18 2005, 08:38 AM)I ... Nov 18 2005, 10:09 AM
elakdawalla QUOTE (David @ Nov 18 2005, 03:09 AM)Well, th... Nov 18 2005, 03:47 PM
jski423 Here have some fun with these.
Since the only pu... Nov 18 2005, 06:36 PM
Toma B QUOTE (jski423 @ Nov 18 2005, 09:36 PM)Since ... Nov 18 2005, 07:09 PM
tedstryk QUOTE (Toma B @ Nov 18 2005, 07:09 PM)OK... Nov 18 2005, 08:42 PM

elakdawalla QUOTE (tedstryk @ Nov 18 2005, 01:42 PM)I kno... Nov 18 2005, 09:18 PM

RNeuhaus QUOTE (elakdawalla @ Nov 18 2005, 04:18 PM)I ... Nov 18 2005, 09:40 PM
jski423 QUOTE (Toma B @ Nov 18 2005, 08:09 PM)OK... Nov 18 2005, 10:39 PM
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Gsnorgathon Say - not to drag things off topic here - and it... Nov 30 2005, 12:23 AM
JRehling QUOTE (Gsnorgathon @ Nov 29 2005, 04:23 PM)Sa... Nov 30 2005, 01:00 AM
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