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Rakhir
post Nov 17 2005, 01:00 PM
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I don't found any post about Stardust@Home so I created a new thread.

Stardust@Home is a distributed search by volunteers for interstellar dust in the Stardust interstellar dust collector.

Volunteers have to pre-register for an expected start in spring of 2006. You will also have to pass a test to be qualified for the search.
Indeed, unlike the distributed computer projects running in background tasks, this project is using your eyes to scan "focus movies" thanks to a Virtual Microscope. ph34r.gif

According to estimations, there should be about 45 interstellar dust impacts in the collector.

Besides the satisfaction of contributing actively to this sample return project, your name will appear as a co-author on the paper announcing the discovery of the particle. smile.gif

http://stardustathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/

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deglr6328
post Aug 6 2006, 12:14 AM
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I'm having a terrible time with bad focus images. I've done maybe 100 "movies" and at least a third have the surface in focus WAY far away from the center of the slider bar. Some movies are so devoid of any features at all that I can't tell if I'm actually looking at different images or if the javascript has frozen up and I'm stuck on the same one. If we're looking for ~10 tracks in ~1 MILLION images I have little hope the method will deliver real results with this kind of performance. The images should contain a reticle fiducial like this which rests on the srface so the viewer can see immediately where the surface is.

It looks to me like all they've done is get a block of aerogel under the microscope, focus to the surface and tell the autoscanner/imager "ok here's the surface, scan the whole block assuming this level at xx microns will be where the surface is" regarless of surface level deviation, when what they should be doing is surface level calibrating every movie made by using a little piece of software to see where the highest contrast is (like a digital camera does) and or using a small/thin surface fiducial at the image edge. Also Dilo is right about those dots that appear on every image, it makes me think they didn't even flatfield calibrate the CCD on the imager before they started!! not good. On the other hand the user interface is pretty nice and natural to use.
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post Aug 6 2006, 12:25 AM
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QUOTE (deglr6328 @ Aug 5 2006, 05:14 PM) *
I'm having a terrible time with bad focus images. I've done maybye 100 "movies" and at least a third have the surface in focus WAY far away from the center of the slider bar. Some movies are so devoid of any features at all that I can't tell if I'm actually looking at different images or if the javascript has frozen up and I'm stuck on the same one. If we're looking for ~10 tracks in ~1 MILLION images I have little hope the method will deliver real results with this kind of performance. The images should contain a reticle fiducial like this which rests on the srface so the viewer can see immediately where the surface is.

It looks to me like all they've done is get a block of aerogel under the microscope, focus to the surface and tell the autoscanner/imager "ok here's the surface, scan the whole block assuming this level at xx microns will be where the surface is" regarless of surface level deviation, when what they should be doing is surface level calibrating every movie made by using a little piece of software to see where the highest contrast is (like a digital camera does) and or using a small/thin surface fiducial at the image edge. On the other hand the user interface is pretty nice and natural to use.


Bah, Humbug you say.

I've been 550 'real' slides now and I don't see that big a problem with the poorly focused examples. Just click bad focus and go on. the odds are low but... you might have one named after you!

my stats:

Your Overall Score: 186
Total Movies Viewed: 761
Your Rank: 885 out of 7330
Specificity: 100%
Sensitivity: 89%

Movie 20962 31 5 Indeterminate
Movie 41699 41 9 Indeterminate
Movie 43214 35 11 Indeterminate
Movie 22712 37 3 Indeterminate
Movie 41954 37 7 Indeterminate
Movie 41322 47 7 Indeterminate
Movie 43323 49 5 Indeterminate
Movie 41590 46 10 Indeterminate
Movie 41491 48 1 Indeterminate
Movie 44039 28 4 Indeterminate
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- Rakhir   Stardust@home   Nov 17 2005, 01:00 PM
- - deglr6328   Looks fun. What do they mean though when they say ...   Nov 17 2005, 09:19 PM
- - hendric   http://www.psrd.hawaii.edu/April00/analyzingSmall....   Nov 17 2005, 09:28 PM
|- - Ames   Pre-registered and ready for action. I think this...   Jan 9 2006, 09:42 AM
- - akuo   Is there some sort of explanation from the Stardus...   Jan 9 2006, 02:20 PM
|- - The Messenger   QUOTE (akuo @ Jan 9 2006, 07:20 AM)Is there s...   Jan 9 2006, 05:03 PM
|- - tty   QUOTE (akuo @ Jan 9 2006, 04:20 PM)Is there s...   Feb 3 2006, 12:11 PM
|- - ElkGroveDan   QUOTE (tty @ Feb 3 2006, 12:11 PM)Because peo...   Feb 4 2006, 02:33 AM
|- - Borek   QUOTE (ElkGroveDan @ Feb 4 2006, 02:33 AM...   Apr 28 2006, 10:45 AM
|- - helvick   QUOTE (Borek @ Apr 28 2006, 10:45 AM) I w...   Apr 28 2006, 11:04 PM
||- - MahFL   I passed the Stardust@Home training, 10/10   Apr 28 2006, 11:26 PM
|- - tty   QUOTE (Borek @ Apr 28 2006, 12:45 PM) Sho...   Apr 29 2006, 04:59 PM
- - djellison   It's probably cheaper to get people to do it t...   Jan 9 2006, 02:51 PM
|- - paxdan   stardust@home please be mac compatible please be ...   Jan 9 2006, 03:43 PM
||- - ElkGroveDan   QUOTE (paxdan @ Jan 9 2006, 03:43 PM)stardust...   Jan 9 2006, 05:41 PM
|- - elakdawalla   QUOTE (djellison @ Jan 9 2006, 06:51 AM)It...   Jan 9 2006, 04:45 PM
|- - odave   QUOTE (elakdawalla @ Jan 9 2006, 11:45 AM)......   Jan 9 2006, 04:53 PM
- - djellison   I did WAYYYyy too much crater clicking...it was st...   Jan 9 2006, 04:46 PM
|- - elakdawalla   QUOTE (djellison @ Jan 9 2006, 08:46 AM)I...   Jan 9 2006, 05:01 PM
- - dvandorn   I registered with Stardust@home as soon as its exi...   Feb 3 2006, 05:19 AM
|- - Rakhir   QUOTE (dvandorn @ Feb 3 2006, 07:19 AM)I regi...   Feb 3 2006, 09:33 AM
- - djellison   No news yet - I doubt they'll send out emails ...   Feb 3 2006, 09:59 AM
- - PhilCo126   Well, with Stardust (finally) at home... I remembe...   Feb 3 2006, 09:03 PM
|- - ljk4-1   QUOTE (PhilCo126 @ Feb 3 2006, 04:03 PM)Well,...   Feb 4 2006, 02:03 AM
|- - Bob Shaw   QUOTE (ljk4-1 @ Feb 4 2006, 03:03 AM...   Apr 28 2006, 08:18 PM
- - BruceMoomaw   QUOTE (ljk4-1 @ Feb 4 2006, 02:03 AM)Thi...   Feb 4 2006, 08:18 AM
- - djellison   TPS members will be pleased to see that you can no...   Apr 28 2006, 09:02 AM
- - BruceMoomaw   An LPSC abstract on the results from the first tes...   Apr 28 2006, 10:29 AM
- - BruceMoomaw   In a bag...   Apr 28 2006, 10:00 PM
- - djellison   To be fair, the samples may be scrap, but the aero...   Apr 28 2006, 10:56 PM
|- - Bob Shaw   QUOTE (djellison @ Apr 28 2006, 11:56 PM)...   Apr 29 2006, 12:23 PM
- - dvandorn   I finally received an e-mail saying that Stardust@...   Aug 2 2006, 03:25 AM
- - Tman   Got that e-mail last night too - And after celebra...   Aug 2 2006, 07:09 AM
- - Tman   QUOTE Latest News: Aug. 2, 2006 - 7:26am We have ...   Aug 2 2006, 04:51 PM
|- - dilo   An hacker attack ongoing?!?   Aug 2 2006, 08:14 PM
|- - RobR   QUOTE (dilo @ Aug 2 2006, 01:14 PM) An ha...   Aug 4 2006, 05:21 AM
- - Tman   Hi Rob, welcome to UMSF! Statistic for ...   Aug 4 2006, 11:10 AM
|- - RobR   1230 Movies! You should have some events ther...   Aug 4 2006, 11:36 AM
- - Tman   Yes I clicked two at the beginning (status "I...   Aug 4 2006, 12:26 PM
|- - dilo   QUOTE (Tman @ Aug 4 2006, 12:26 PM) What ...   Aug 4 2006, 03:37 PM
- - centsworth_II   The stardust info I read said that there were expe...   Aug 4 2006, 05:21 PM
|- - dilo   QUOTE (centsworth_II @ Aug 4 2006, 05:21 ...   Aug 4 2006, 05:28 PM
- - Tman   If you click on a movie (test or real) including a...   Aug 4 2006, 05:55 PM
|- - RobR   By the way, they advertise on the site that you wi...   Aug 4 2006, 11:32 PM
- - odave   Heh, here's my stats - just signed up: Your R...   Aug 5 2006, 01:14 AM
|- - dilo   Did somone noticed these 3 small particles (light ...   Aug 5 2006, 06:05 AM
|- - odave   QUOTE (dilo @ Aug 5 2006, 02:05 AM) Did s...   Aug 5 2006, 08:54 AM
- - RobR   I took you comment obout the URL telling test or r...   Aug 5 2006, 01:50 AM
|- - RobR   QUOTE (RobR @ Aug 4 2006, 06:50 PM) I too...   Aug 5 2006, 02:06 AM
- - dvandorn   Finally got in and going, myself. Had an interest...   Aug 5 2006, 06:39 AM
- - Tman   Doug, if you like to show what you've marked/s...   Aug 5 2006, 08:57 AM
- - jaredGalen   Seeing as we are posting stats.... My rank hasn...   Aug 5 2006, 09:07 AM
- - deglr6328   I'm having a terrible time with bad focus imag...   Aug 6 2006, 12:14 AM
|- - RobR   QUOTE (deglr6328 @ Aug 5 2006, 05:14 PM) ...   Aug 6 2006, 12:25 AM
- - Tman   Something about the small dark spots below the sur...   Aug 6 2006, 08:55 AM
- - Tman   Warning! http://stardustathome.ssl.berkeley...   Aug 6 2006, 06:15 PM
|- - RobR   I've had quite a few failed calibration movies...   Aug 7 2006, 05:58 AM
- - tty   Stardust-at-home's early travails have made it...   Aug 8 2006, 05:49 AM
|- - dilo   Very strange structure on movie 845194V1: The par...   Aug 8 2006, 09:41 PM
- - Tman   Yea, there're some odd structures appearing at...   Aug 9 2006, 07:26 AM
- - Tman   Another strange (but nice) thing:   Aug 9 2006, 06:13 PM
- - AlexBlackwell   Andrew Westphal is "glogging" for Emily ...   Aug 14 2006, 08:02 PM
- - CosmicRocker   sorry about the flood... Yeah, I just caught up w...   Aug 16 2006, 05:24 AM
|- - odave   I realize this post is probably more appropriate a...   Aug 16 2006, 02:02 PM
|- - odave   QUOTE (CosmicRocker @ Aug 16 2006, 01:24 ...   Sep 14 2006, 04:07 PM
- - odave   FYI - there's a new update over at the stardus...   Aug 17 2006, 01:33 AM
- - Tman   Yea, but in one of the two highest scored is the f...   Aug 17 2006, 09:28 AM
- - MichaelT   Some of my candidate movies have been checked and ...   Aug 22 2006, 08:37 AM
- - Tman   Hi Michael, nice to see you here! Yea, these ...   Aug 22 2006, 11:18 AM
- - Tman   Such a possible track with the particle (that I fo...   Aug 22 2006, 02:26 PM
|- - ugordan   QUOTE (Tman @ Aug 22 2006, 03:26 PM) (doe...   Aug 22 2006, 02:54 PM
|- - Tman   QUOTE (ugordan @ Aug 22 2006, 04:54 PM) I...   Aug 22 2006, 03:15 PM
- - CosmicRocker   odave, thanks for mentioning that update about the...   Aug 22 2006, 02:27 PM
- - odave   From albutterworth's update, it's Interpla...   Aug 22 2006, 04:27 PM
- - Tman   Oh yea, thanks! I've read that article, bu...   Aug 22 2006, 05:14 PM
- - Tman   There's a nice example of another type of impa...   Aug 23 2006, 09:50 AM
- - Tman   It seems there're no longer Starduster here ...   Sep 19 2006, 10:38 AM
- - odave   I agree with your interpretation of the tracks, TM...   Sep 19 2006, 04:37 PM
|- - Tman   QUOTE (odave @ Sep 19 2006, 06:37 PM) The...   Sep 24 2006, 07:54 PM
- - Tman   O' Dave thanks for the nice comment. I slowed...   Sep 19 2006, 06:41 PM
- - Tman   http://stardustathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/for...opic....   Sep 21 2006, 09:11 PM


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