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Nov 20 2005, 06:49 AM
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What is going on with SETI@home? I have in the past, (like many of the other users of this board I suspect!) run the SETI@home screensaver on my computer. I ran it for about 4 years and then uninstalled it. Not because I was fed up with not having an ET directly send to me personally a big "HELLO THERE" message, but rather because I saw little in the way of actual science being done with the SETI results we volunteers were all producing and because there seemed to be no plan for any kind of endpoint of the project in the future.
I recall seeing in a 2000 edition of Scientific American a plot of the already searched parameter space by SETI@home and it looked like most of our galaxy was searched and found empty obviously, of "type I civilizations" and higher. (ah. found it) Now, its been 6 years since then and we've since viewed ~97% of the observable sky from Arecibo at least once since the start of the project (~86% at least twice). Why are there no papers published on this result? It IS a significant result even if its negative one. Were there SETI papers published that I've just not seen? The SETI and SETI@home web sites are of very little help when looking for actual peer reviewed published papers that the projects have produced. |
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Nov 20 2005, 04:56 PM
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It's an interesting topic, but it doesn't belong here.
-------------------- If Occam had heard my theory, things would be very different now.
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Nov 20 2005, 05:05 PM
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Do you guys realize the search terms that have been added in just the first 8 posts here?
little green men UFO's aliens galactic civilizations star wars Vulcans missing planets attack with spacefaring technology Independence Day unsuspecting worlds colonize the whole galaxy Cosmic Zoos Galactic Wildlife Parks galactic scale civilisations Earth-like civilizations -------------------- If Occam had heard my theory, things would be very different now.
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Nov 21 2005, 06:25 PM
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QUOTE (ElkGroveDan @ Nov 20 2005, 12:05 PM) Do you guys realize the search terms that have been added in just the first 8 posts here? little green men UFO's aliens galactic civilizations star wars Vulcans missing planets attack with spacefaring technology Independence Day unsuspecting worlds colonize the whole galaxy Cosmic Zoos Galactic Wildlife Parks galactic scale civilisations Earth-like civilizations With that thinking, we better remove the word Mars from this forum, because we all know that will lead to the Mars Face! On another SETI issue, are elements of art as universal as math? http://www.jonlomberg.com/articles-Capri_paper.html -------------------- "After having some business dealings with men, I am occasionally chagrined,
and feel as if I had done some wrong, and it is hard to forget the ugly circumstance. I see that such intercourse long continued would make one thoroughly prosaic, hard, and coarse. But the longest intercourse with Nature, though in her rudest moods, does not thus harden and make coarse. A hard, sensible man whom we liken to a rock is indeed much harder than a rock. From hard, coarse, insensible men with whom I have no sympathy, I go to commune with the rocks, whose hearts are comparatively soft." - Henry David Thoreau, November 15, 1853 |
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Nov 21 2005, 07:09 PM
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QUOTE (ljk4-1 @ Nov 21 2005, 06:25 PM) With that thinking, we better remove the word Mars from this forum, because we all know that will lead to the Mars Face! [/url] The way google and other search engines work when you enter multiple search terms is that they look for frequency of terms on a page, as well as proximity of the terms to each other. So a search for "Mars Pathfinder" or "Mars Opportunity" will likely turn up this site. Prior to this thread, a search on "Mars alien civilization attacks by UFO's" would not have resulted in a hit here, it would have taken the kook to OTHER places. -------------------- If Occam had heard my theory, things would be very different now.
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Nov 22 2005, 07:40 PM
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QUOTE (ElkGroveDan @ Nov 21 2005, 07:09 PM) The way google and other search engines work when you enter multiple search terms is that they look for frequency of terms on a page, as well as proximity of the terms to each other. If you wished to avoid this, grouping all the suspect phrases together in a single post, as you did, was certainly not the best way to do so. However, I tried searching for your questionable long phrase on Google, just to see whether unmannedspaceflight would turn up; if it does, it is buried very deeply. I tried using several terms from your list in combination, to narrow the list, and turned up nothing. So at the moment, there is nothing immediate to fear. And on reconsidering your list, you seem to want to ban any word with a "science fiction" connotation. However, I have noticed that on this forum, simply due to the subject matter and the personalities involved, every tenth or twentieth message has some sort of science fiction allusion; I've seen discussions of science fiction novels, and of course repeated jokes about "Marvin the Martian", possible fossils and so on. I don't think you can practically hope to wipe those sorts of allusions out. Moreover, banning such phrases as "unsuspecting worlds" or "missing planets" seems like overkill, as there are legitimate uses for such phrases even quite outside any discussion of ETIs, and they are hardly likely to be high upon any anomalist's list of search terms. Perhaps what bothers you is not so much the phrases, or the possibility of them being detected by a web-searching anomalist, as their context? --that is, the sense that a scientific forum such as this is degraded by the discussion of anything so "science fictional" as SETI? |
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deglr6328 Seti And Particularly Seti@home Nov 20 2005, 06:49 AM
Richard Trigaux I think this is an interesting topic, and that it ... Nov 20 2005, 10:06 AM
helvick I'm also a lapsed SETI@home participant. I had... Nov 20 2005, 10:54 AM
Richard Trigaux QUOTE (helvick @ Nov 20 2005, 10:54 AM)Richar... Nov 20 2005, 12:20 PM
David I'm going to add and consolidate some comments... Nov 20 2005, 03:00 PM
helvick Good comments David.
There are a couple of addit... Nov 20 2005, 03:51 PM
Rakhir QUOTE (deglr6328 @ Nov 20 2005, 08:49 AM)What... Nov 20 2005, 03:11 PM
deglr6328 QUOTE (David @ Nov 20 2005, 03:00 PM).....The... Nov 20 2005, 04:07 PM
Richard Trigaux It is false to say that the SETI results are negat... Nov 20 2005, 04:51 PM
David QUOTE (Richard Trigaux @ Nov 20 2005, 04:51 P... Nov 20 2005, 05:23 PM

Richard Trigaux QUOTE (ElkGroveDan @ Nov 21 2005, 07:09 PM)Th... Nov 21 2005, 07:49 PM


jamescanvin QUOTE (Richard Trigaux @ Nov 22 2005, 06:49 A... Nov 22 2005, 02:56 AM

Bob Shaw QUOTE (ElkGroveDan @ Nov 21 2005, 08:09 PM)Th... Nov 22 2005, 06:50 PM

elakdawalla QUOTE (David @ Nov 22 2005, 12:40 PM)Perhaps ... Nov 22 2005, 08:16 PM
Richard Trigaux QUOTE (ljk4-1 @ Nov 21 2005, 06:25 PM)Wi... Nov 21 2005, 07:18 PM
deglr6328 EG-Dan, while I share your apprehension about usin... Nov 21 2005, 01:21 AM
Richard Trigaux QUOTE (deglr6328 @ Nov 21 2005, 01:21 AM)EG-D... Nov 21 2005, 08:02 AM
Richard Trigaux deglr6328 and David, thank you for your replies. I... Nov 21 2005, 08:51 AM
edstrick Richard Trigaux: ".... Too small stars like ... Nov 21 2005, 01:18 PM
Richard Trigaux QUOTE (edstrick @ Nov 21 2005, 01:18 PM)Richa... Nov 21 2005, 07:07 PM
ljk4-1 QUOTE (Richard Trigaux @ Nov 21 2005, 02:07 P... Nov 21 2005, 07:14 PM
Richard Trigaux QUOTE (ljk4-1 @ Nov 21 2005, 07:14 PM)Ha... Nov 21 2005, 07:33 PM
deglr6328 We probably should not be so quick to dismiss the ... Nov 22 2005, 01:35 AM
Richard Trigaux QUOTE (deglr6328 @ Nov 22 2005, 01:35 AM)We p... Nov 22 2005, 07:13 AM
ljk4-1 Paper: astro-ph/0511583
Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 2... Nov 22 2005, 02:28 PM
ljk4-1 I have been wondering whatever became of The Plane... Nov 22 2005, 04:23 PM
elakdawalla QUOTE (ljk4-1 @ Nov 22 2005, 09:23 AM)I ... Nov 22 2005, 06:41 PM
ljk4-1 QUOTE (elakdawalla @ Nov 22 2005, 01:41 PM)Hi... Nov 22 2005, 07:48 PM
elakdawalla QUOTE (ljk4-1 @ Nov 22 2005, 12:48 PM)Th... Nov 22 2005, 08:11 PM
ElkGroveDan QUOTE (elakdawalla @ Nov 22 2005, 08:11 PM)Ch... Nov 22 2005, 08:28 PM
elakdawalla QUOTE (ElkGroveDan @ Nov 22 2005, 01:28 PM)Em... Nov 22 2005, 09:50 PM
Richard Trigaux What you say about science writing is very true, e... Nov 23 2005, 07:48 AM
dvandorn I can also really relate to Emily's discussion... Nov 23 2005, 04:16 PM
ljk4-1 SETI@home killed off ?
Placed in sarcophagus rise... Nov 28 2005, 06:32 PM
dvandorn Hmmm... upon reading this thread last week, I went... Nov 28 2005, 10:17 PM
Richard Trigaux What does this means?
If I understand well, the w... Nov 29 2005, 07:51 AM
jaredGalen QUOTE (Richard Trigaux @ Nov 29 2005, 07:51 A... Nov 29 2005, 09:52 AM
Richard Trigaux QUOTE (jaredGalen @ Nov 29 2005, 09:52 AM)It... Nov 29 2005, 10:29 AM
ljk4-1 Scientists, be on guard ... ET might be a maliciou... Nov 29 2005, 03:35 PM
Richard Trigaux QUOTE (ljk4-1 @ Nov 29 2005, 03:35 PM)Sc... Nov 29 2005, 09:51 PM
ljk4-1 At least one SETI group is working under the assum... Nov 29 2005, 10:19 PM
TheChemist QUOTE At least one SETI group is working under the... Nov 30 2005, 12:07 AM
Richard Trigaux WE can seriously consider that, in the assumption ... Nov 30 2005, 11:17 AM
lyford Of course, they would need a compatible operating ... Nov 30 2005, 06:54 PM
Richard Trigaux QUOTE (lyford @ Nov 30 2005, 06:54 PM)Of cour... Nov 30 2005, 07:35 PM
lyford Well, it started OS independent - but with all the... Nov 30 2005, 09:45 PM
Richard Trigaux QUOTE (lyford @ Nov 30 2005, 09:45 PM)Well, i... Dec 1 2005, 07:17 AM
lyford Richard, your points are all very good.
I am st... Dec 1 2005, 05:48 PM
Richard Trigaux QUOTE (lyford @ Dec 1 2005, 05:48 PM)Richard,... Dec 1 2005, 06:55 PM

ljk4-1 SETI and Intelligent Design
http://www.space.com... Dec 1 2005, 09:44 PM

Richard Trigaux QUOTE (ljk4-1 @ Dec 1 2005, 09:44 PM)SET... Dec 2 2005, 09:27 AM

ljk4-1 Paper: astro-ph/0512013
Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2005 03... Dec 2 2005, 03:26 PM
Rakhir QUOTE (lyford @ Dec 1 2005, 07:48 PM)I think ... Dec 1 2005, 10:18 PM
Richard Trigaux This is interesting info. With this kind of data w... Dec 2 2005, 04:12 PM
chris QUOTE (Richard Trigaux @ Dec 2 2005, 04:12 PM... Dec 2 2005, 04:37 PM
Richard Trigaux QUOTE (chris @ Dec 2 2005, 04:37 PM)Richard,
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ljk4-1 Paper: astro-ph/0512053
Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2005 02:... Dec 5 2005, 04:23 PM

Richard Trigaux QUOTE (ljk4-1 @ Dec 5 2005, 04:23 PM)Pap... Dec 5 2005, 06:31 PM
tty QUOTE (Richard Trigaux @ Dec 2 2005, 07:34 PM... Dec 13 2005, 07:03 PM
Richard Trigaux QUOTE (tty @ Dec 13 2005, 07:03 PM)Actually I... Dec 13 2005, 07:46 PM
tty QUOTE (Richard Trigaux @ Dec 13 2005, 09:46 P... Dec 13 2005, 09:54 PM
Richard Trigaux Another interesting use of these (future) result w... Dec 5 2005, 07:13 PM
ljk4-1 Review: Life as We Do Not Know It
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The nascen... Dec 12 2005, 03:10 PM
ljk4-1 The Call That Is Important To Us All
Leigh Dayto... Dec 12 2005, 03:41 PM

Richard Trigaux QUOTE (ljk4-1 @ Dec 12 2005, 03:41 PM)Th... Dec 13 2005, 08:11 PM

ljk4-1 QUOTE (Richard Trigaux @ Dec 13 2005, 03:11 P... Dec 14 2005, 03:06 AM

ljk4-1 Paper: astro-ph/0512291
Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 1... Dec 14 2005, 05:06 AM

Richard Trigaux QUOTE (ljk4-1 @ Dec 14 2005, 05:06 AM)Pa... Dec 14 2005, 11:40 AM
Richard Trigaux QUOTE (ljk4-1 @ Dec 12 2005, 03:10 PM)Re... Dec 12 2005, 03:58 PM
ljk4-1 Paper (*cross-listing*): physics/0512062
Date: We... Dec 12 2005, 04:16 PM

Richard Trigaux QUOTE (ljk4-1 @ Dec 12 2005, 04:16 PM)Pa... Dec 12 2005, 05:11 PM

ljk4-1 National Geographic Channel - Monday, December 12,... Dec 12 2005, 07:55 PM
David QUOTE (Richard Trigaux @ Dec 12 2005, 03:58 P... Dec 12 2005, 09:31 PM
Richard Trigaux QUOTE (David @ Dec 12 2005, 09:31 PM)Octopode... Dec 13 2005, 07:32 PM
David QUOTE (Richard Trigaux @ Dec 13 2005, 07:32 P... Dec 15 2005, 11:01 AM
Richard Trigaux QUOTE (David @ Dec 15 2005, 11:01 AM)Surprisi... Dec 15 2005, 01:33 PM
ljk4-1 Paper: astro-ph/0512371
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 1... Dec 15 2005, 04:26 PM

ljk4-1 Computer Security Expert Rejects Hacker Hypothesis... Dec 15 2005, 08:31 PM
David QUOTE (Richard Trigaux @ Dec 15 2005, 01:33 P... Dec 16 2005, 02:59 AM
Richard Trigaux QUOTE (David @ Dec 16 2005, 02:59 AM)That pre... Dec 16 2005, 08:40 AM
ljk4-1 Paper: astro-ph/0512445
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 17... Dec 19 2005, 06:08 PM

ljk4-1 MONDAY, DECEMBER 19, 2005 - NGC
Naked Science: ... Dec 19 2005, 08:11 PM

Richard Trigaux QUOTE (ljk4-1 @ Dec 19 2005, 06:08 PM)Pa... Dec 20 2005, 10:31 AM

ljk4-1 Partial Ingredients for DNA and Protein Found Arou... Dec 21 2005, 05:04 AM
tty QUOTE (Richard Trigaux @ Dec 16 2005, 10:40 A... Dec 19 2005, 11:28 PM
Richard Trigaux QUOTE (tty @ Dec 19 2005, 11:28 PM)Actually H... Dec 20 2005, 10:09 AM
David QUOTE Ward is famous—or perhaps infamous—for the 2... Dec 12 2005, 10:28 PM
edstrick One thing I have not seen much discussion of, at l... Dec 14 2005, 12:12 PM
Richard Trigaux QUOTE (edstrick @ Dec 14 2005, 12:12 PM)One t... Dec 14 2005, 12:54 PM
ljk4-1 Paper: astro-ph/0512221
Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2005 15:... Dec 14 2005, 07:54 PM
ljk4-1 Paper: astro-ph/0412356
replaced with revised ver... Dec 14 2005, 08:38 PM
deglr6328 I think its JUST a bit of a stretch to say that pa... Dec 21 2005, 06:02 AM
Richard Trigaux QUOTE (deglr6328 @ Dec 21 2005, 06:02 AM)I th... Dec 21 2005, 08:38 AM
Richard Trigaux Back to the idea of gamma ray bursts (GRB) able to... Dec 21 2005, 09:07 AM
ljk4-1 On December 15 former Senator William Proxmire of ... Dec 21 2005, 05:52 PM![]() ![]() |
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