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New Mars Express And Huygens Results, ESA conference - November 30, 2005
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post Nov 22 2005, 06:15 PM
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http://www.esa.int/esaCP/SEMA96ULWFE_index_0.html

Relating to Mars Express:

"At the same time, ESA’s Mars Express mission is continuing its investigations of Mars, painting a new picture of the 'red planet'. This includes the first ever probing below the surface of Mars, new geological clues with implications for the climate, newly-discovered surface and atmospheric features and, above all, traces of the presence of water on this world."
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post Nov 22 2005, 07:22 PM
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Anyone will assist to the conference in Paris on November 30 (one week from now)?

Any french people might assist to that, Richard, vikingmars, Rakhir or more or not?

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post Nov 29 2005, 10:46 PM
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Just a reminder that the press briefing is tomorrow (November 30, 2005) at 10:00 am ET / 7:00 am PT and will be shown live on NASA TV:

http://www.nasa.gov/home/hqnews/2005/nov/H...s_Briefing.html
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post Nov 30 2005, 09:12 AM
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QUOTE (jamescanvin @ Nov 30 2005, 02:52 AM)
The joke is about ESA's habit of making confirmations of already pretty well established things sound like major discoveries in thier press releases! Not wanting to speak for the jokers, but I'm sure they all agree with your above statement. Mars Express has been a wonderful mission but there PR office is a joke.

Well I thourght it was funny  laugh.gif  laugh.gif

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Really? And how many times does the NASA press office announce they have found evidence of water on Mars? or that a mission will provide a breakthough on our understanding of the solar system or the universe.

The ME press office does an excellent job on a very small budget.

Besides, the tone of the above comments to me appear directed at ME and ESA and not their press office.

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post Nov 30 2005, 10:23 AM
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QUOTE (JonClarke @ Nov 30 2005, 11:12 AM)
Really?  And how many times does the NASA press office announce they have found evidence of water on Mars? or that a mission will provide a breakthough on our understanding of the solar system or the universe.

The ME press office does an excellent job on a very small budget.

Besides, the tone of the above comments to me appear directed at ME and ESA and not their press office.

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I agree with you Jon.
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post Nov 30 2005, 03:27 PM
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http://www.esa.int/SPECIALS/Results_from_M...7ZTULWFE_0.html - Buried craters and underground ice /
Mars Express uncovers depths of Mars


http://www.esa.int/SPECIALS/Results_from_M...A1UULWFE_0.html - Mars Express evidence for large aquifers on early Mars

http://www.esa.int/SPECIALS/Results_from_M...IAUULWFE_0.html - Mars Express discovers new layer in Martian ionosphere

http://www.esa.int/SPECIALS/Results_from_M...B4UULWFE_0.html - Mars Express radar reveals complex structure in ionosphere of Mars

All Huygens Results

http://www.esa.int/SPECIALS/Results_from_M...ULWFE_0_ov.html


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post Nov 30 2005, 03:28 PM
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PARIS -- The European Space Agency will unveil wide-ranging findings Wednesday from a landing on Titan as well as from the first-ever probing below the surface of Mars, which found traces of the presence of water ice.

http://www.newsday.com/news/science/wire/s...ience-headlines
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post Nov 30 2005, 03:30 PM
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I think there's a good chance that they're cranking up for some fairly dramatic news at this press conference: I've been told that the initial science results from MARSIS will be released at next week's AGU meeting, and that some of them "will knock your socks off". I also hope we may finally, at long long long last, be on the verge of seeing the issue of "Nature" with the official Huygens results, with this briefing as a prelude to that.
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post Nov 30 2005, 03:31 PM
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Dammit, I wrote that just before seeing SigurdRosFan's announcement...
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post Nov 30 2005, 03:34 PM
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"If we look at today's evidence, the era in which Mars could have been habitable and sustained life would be the early Noachian, traced by the phyllosilicates, rather than the sulphates. The clay minerals we have mapped could still retain traces of a possible biochemical development on Mars,"

Why is the suphate-forming era not suitable for life? Aren't there acidophilic bacteria that like to munch sulfur, like the famous Snottite colonies?
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post Nov 30 2005, 05:43 PM
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Note that clay minerals also occur in Meridiani, presumably under the sulphatic material.

Wild speculation: could the dark layer under the Burns formation in Mogollon Rim be a clayey deposit? laugh.gif

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post Nov 30 2005, 05:49 PM
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Doubtful that the underlying deposits at Meridiani are these phyllosilicate clays that the ESA guys were talking about -- they said very specifically that the closest to either of the rovers they detected these clays were more than 1,000 miles away.

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post Nov 30 2005, 06:00 PM
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Radar Soundings of the Subsurface of Mars
Picardi, et al.
Published online November 30, 2005; 10.1126/science.1122165 (Science Express Research Articles)
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Radar Soundings of the Ionosphere of Mars
Gurnett, et al.
Published online November 30, 2005; 10.1126/science.1121868 (Science Express Research Articles)
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The December 1, 2005, issue of Nature is now online.
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post Nov 30 2005, 06:18 PM
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I have access to Nature.....Shall I do something naughty? cool.gif or will that merely cause headaches for Doug... in which case I obviously won't do it...
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